Date: 10/2/2008 11:48:18 PM
Author: thing2of2
Date: 10/2/2008 11:36:15 PM
Author: EBree
Date: 10/2/2008 11:33:14 PM
Author: MoonWater
He does look good in blue.
Oh yeah.
Sweet sassy molassey. That''s nice!
Now back up off my man!
No thing2of2, my point is that it is not well known. When you speak to someone in day to day life, they take things by the day to day definition. We are not talking about the academic definition, although I understand your point.
Date: 10/2/2008 11:31:54 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/2/2008 11:28:43 PM
Author: thing2of2
Date: 10/2/2008 11:25:17 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/2/2008 11:22:49 PM
Author: thing2of2
Date: 10/2/2008 11:15:42 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/2/2008 11:09:43 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Thing - me being educated is very scary to people who expect all leaning conservative people to be uneducated and start attacking on that. I get stereotyped very often. There''s your answer. Keep thinking it''s my fault. Keep thinking it''s allllll me and enjoy it. Tgal (ref) and Irish (lovely thread starter) - sorry for any negativity I kept going, I apologize for that as that was not the intention of this thread. And since it seems Thing and I can''t stand to be in the same place as each other (which I know she will blame on me and others will agree with) I will actually step out now since it''s all silly anyway. Aside from that, I do agree with you on one thing Moon, this would clearly go on forever.
So anyway sorry for the delay in my reply - I wanted to choose my words carefully and I had fun y''all!I''ll talk to you all later, hope you have a good night!
I think often times people who are insulted or picked on outside of these boards bring it in here and assume posters are doing the same. I saw nothing in Thing''s response to you that indicated that she thought you were some typical uneducated conservative (or whatever stereotype). So that''s unfair. I do believe that because you are picked on you are hypersensitive when you get into these discussions. I don''t get the impression that Thing can''t stand you, I get the feeling that she''s passionate about her beliefs and wants to understand the opposing view. She comes off strongly but so do a lot of other people (not just Dems). You can always ignore her if you really think her intention is to personally insult you. However, I don''t think that''s it at all.
Thanks for the back up, Moon! You explained me quite well!
No problem. I can imagine that you and I could get into some heated debate from opposing sides and actually have drinks afterwards. Have you heard of Q-TIP
We totally could!
Now, Q-TIP as in the rapper? I don''t think I get it!
Hahaha, Bonita Applebum...oh wait, no QuitTakingItPersonally. It''s a technique in stress management. You can avoid unnecessary hurt feelings in many situations.
Huh? I am fighting moon? Because I let her have Cooper and want O''Reilly?Date: 10/3/2008 12:00:22 AM
Author: AGBF
All right, I admit I came in late, but I watched the entire debate and then I read this thread. Why can''t I follow what any of you are saying or have said to each other? (I mean I get the comments on Sarah Palin''s performance, but I don''t know what Moon and TG are fighting over and things like that! How did rednecks get involved?)
Deb
Date: 10/3/2008 12:02:01 AM
Author: TravelingGal
Date: 10/3/2008 12:00:22 AM
Author: AGBF
All right, I admit I came in late, but I watched the entire debate and then I read this thread. Why can''t I follow what any of you are saying or have said to each other? (I mean I get the comments on Sarah Palin''s performance, but I don''t know what Moon and TG are fighting over and things like that! How did rednecks get involved?)
Deb
Huh? I am fighting moon? Because I let her have Cooper and want O''Reilly?
I''s confused.
Date: 10/2/2008 11:55:22 PM
Author: thing2of2
Date: 10/2/2008 11:31:54 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/2/2008 11:28:43 PM
Author: thing2of2
Date: 10/2/2008 11:25:17 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/2/2008 11:22:49 PM
Author: thing2of2
Date: 10/2/2008 11:15:42 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/2/2008 11:09:43 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Thing - me being educated is very scary to people who expect all leaning conservative people to be uneducated and start attacking on that. I get stereotyped very often. There''s your answer. Keep thinking it''s my fault. Keep thinking it''s allllll me and enjoy it. Tgal (ref) and Irish (lovely thread starter) - sorry for any negativity I kept going, I apologize for that as that was not the intention of this thread. And since it seems Thing and I can''t stand to be in the same place as each other (which I know she will blame on me and others will agree with) I will actually step out now since it''s all silly anyway. Aside from that, I do agree with you on one thing Moon, this would clearly go on forever.
So anyway sorry for the delay in my reply - I wanted to choose my words carefully and I had fun y''all!
I think often times people who are insulted or picked on outside of these boards bring it in here and assume posters are doing the same. I saw nothing in Thing''s response to you that indicated that she thought you were some typical uneducated conservative (or whatever stereotype). So that''s unfair. I do believe that because you are picked on you are hypersensitive when you get into these discussions. I don''t get the impression that Thing can''t stand you, I get the feeling that she''s passionate about her beliefs and wants to understand the opposing view. She comes off strongly but so do a lot of other people (not just Dems). You can always ignore her if you really think her intention is to personally insult you. However, I don''t think that''s it at all.
Thanks for the back up, Moon! You explained me quite well!
No problem. I can imagine that you and I could get into some heated debate from opposing sides and actually have drinks afterwards. Have you heard of Q-TIP
We totally could!
Now, Q-TIP as in the rapper? I don''t think I get it!
Hahaha, Bonita Applebum...oh wait, no QuitTakingItPersonally. It''s a technique in stress management. You can avoid unnecessary hurt feelings in many situations.
Ah! That does make more sense in the context of our conversation! Hahaha! Good to know!
I do like me some Q-Tip the rapper, though!
Date: 10/2/2008 11:54:19 PM
Author: TravelingGal
moonwater, where you do think I CAME from?
No thing2of2, my point is that it is not well known. When you speak to someone in day to day life, they take things by the day to day definition. We are not talking about the academic definition, although I understand your point.
Redneck? The mainstream media portrays it as a racial slur. Where I am from, it means white and ignorant. Whatever the true definition, surely you can agree that it has the *potential* to offend, whether intended or not.
And semantics...I understood your intent with that question, which is why I didn''t say anything. However ''rabidly'' is not exactly the most positive adjective. Yes, it probably is her problem, because it is her PERCEPTION even though it is not your intent. But I''ve always said perception is what counts in the end and if I care, then I''ll try to clarify my intent and apologize for how I was perceived. If you think it is her problem and not yours, then there is nothing more for you to do.
Date: 10/3/2008 12:00:22 AM
Author: AGBF
All right, I admit I came in late, but I watched the entire debate and then I read this thread. Why can''t I follow what any of you are saying or have said to each other? (I mean I get the comments on Sarah Palin''s performance, but I don''t know what Moon and TG are fighting over and things like that! How did rednecks get involved?)
Deb
Very well said, Storm!
Now look (had to get my Obamaism in), I am as un-PC as they come, so I''m just playing a bit of devil''s advocate here.
I do agree about the hypersensitivity. But it always amuses me when people say, "well, I don''t know why you were offended...I didn''t mean it that way." Some people don''t understand how they come across, is my point.
Date: 10/3/2008 12:22:38 AM
Author: TravelingGal
Now look (had to get my Obamaism in), I am as un-PC as they come, so I''m just playing a bit of devil''s advocate here.
I''m yellow. And I don''t think Oriental is racist. But apparently a lot of people do, so I try to understand that *generally* in this PC world, it is considered racist.
Having worked for an asian company, I have seen firsthand that anyone other than asian were denied opportunities. And this happened in this country. So white people can be denied opportunity. And it was because asians thought that white people didn''t work hard enough, smart enough, and a host of other ''we are better than you'' issues. Is this going to happen the majority of the time? Probably not, but it can happen.
As for your questions on whether she had taken a class, etc...do you not think this could be perceived as a little condescending? I know you didn''t mean it that way, but again, perception.
It wasn''t that one word TofT2. It was the tone in which the question was asked, and I consider myself pretty objective when it comes to perception. It did seem more disdainful than curious. Would I have taken offense? No, but I do understand why offense was taken.
And I agree...you can''t control her feelings. Some people are more sensitive than others...that''s life.
I will say from a personal point of view that as a republican, it does get tiring from time to time to get that constant attitude that Democrats are progressive and Republicans are backwards. Some people really don''t understand *why* a young woman would choose to be anything other than a democrat. If you admit to any moral or religious issue, you''re pegged right away as a zealot at best and ignorant/dangerous at worst. The list goes on and on.
There ARE plenty of republicans who are well balanced - after escaping from that padded room that Moonwater mentioned, of course.
I don't hold any grudges, but I haven't heard many apologies either. Sometimes I think it's more humble to admit that you may have been out of line and move on, rather than trying to get that person to justify themselves. That's just my personal opinion and I mean that in general (I'm not specifically talking about t2o2, you, me, or anyone else).
Date: 10/3/2008 12:42:39 AM
Author: TravelingGal
I do agree about the hypersensitivity. But it always amuses me when people say, ''well, I don''t know why you were offended...I didn''t mean it that way.'' Some people don''t understand how they come across, is my point.
I disagree on this: some people just can''t ignore others. It''s not as easy for everyone.
Bottom line, to sum what T2of2 said, you can''t control other people, which is true. Say what you will, take it how you will, it is what it is. I used to think on PS that if I had a thicker skin farm, I''d make a lotta money.
And yeah, I have read worse on this forum. I normally stay out of it because at the end of the day, I really don''t care. Maybe I''m in it tonight because after watching the debate, I am in the mood for one, gosh derned it.
Ok, you''re wrong. Not 99% of the time. Maybe 98. 97 on a really bad day.
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