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This is similar, but it's not the same company. The name and logo don't match. The one I'm looking it is based in NY. This is good news..."Himmatramka is also an enthusiastic supporter of lab-created gemstones: Do Amore offers diamonds, sapphires and moissanite made in labs, which comprise about 30 percent of gemstone sales. “If a customer wants a stone that’s 15 or 20 million years old, that’s one thing, but lab-created stones are just as good—if not better—and more cost-effective. We love lab-created stones,” he says."
https://www.houstoniamag.com/articl...ants-to-shake-up-the-engagement-ring-industry
Won't it say on the AGS certificate? I'd rather see it somewhere than just ask someone.You will need to contact them and ask if it is an earth mined diamond,
The AGS cert I posted is all that I have.Any pics of the hearts?
Thanks for your suggestion. I was wondering where the $8k came from? If I understand correctly, it's worth paying $8k less than the WF diamond?
I don't have any issue disclosing the seller from Ebay (Amore Diamonds: http://www.ebay.com/usr/amorediamonds) I just hope no one from here beats me to it
What do you think? I really want a bargain. I am so hesitant at paying $61k for a 3k diamond that may be absolutely ideally cut, but G/VS2. So would you suggest I offer something like $25k or $30k? They also know that I had $55k from before this transaction when I was looking for a d/if/3x diamond a few months ago. So that may have damaged the negotiation situation...
Good points to consider... they haven't given any offer and I also searched in their listings and it's not there. I will ask for actual picture and video of the stone and ask about a guarantee to resend to AGS for further verification. I'm not sure they'll go for this as I doubt that they actually own the diamond. Let me see what he answers to these questions and I'll take it from there... I won't discuss prices yet. If he wants me to pay that much, sending me a certificate won't be enough.@lucida, I would first make some enquiries with them about getting photos of the stone before you even contemplate dropping any cash. At least with the PS recommended vendors we've been telling you about, you can actually see the damn stone before you contemplate dropping cash. These guys, it seems to be nada in that respect. You certainly damaged the negotiation situation by letting them know how much you were willing to spend. They have the upper hand now.
What was the list price that they wanted for it? if higher than $55k and you would prefer this stone over the Whiteflash 3.115 G VS2 we found for you, you are better off going with adiamor instead as their list price is already lower to begin with. (I can't even find that stone on the amorediamonds eBay listings at all, they've probably pulled the listing when you've made their enquiry). Given how long this apparently new stone (not second hand) has been in their inventory, I'd say $25-$30k is a laughable first offer. Maybe $40k as a starting point which is $15k off the adiamor list price and work up from there. If they want $55k, then maybe you have to seriously consider whether you should spend the extra $8k on the WF ACA stone or not.
It looks like they are selling new stones, but their high carat weight stones have been languishing in their inventory since they've been graded. They have a large number of super high priced items. They are selling a 4.05 GIA D IF in a solitaire for USD499,000... on eBay!
That 4.05 is decently proportioned based off the report (53 table, 62.7 depth, CA 35.5, PA40.6, 80 LGF), but based on the photo on the listing, it looks like an absolute dog (milky and hazy to my eyes). But this stone was graded in 2014 and it is still in their inventory today. Why? Because stones of that size (and price) are very hard to sell. And if I was going to drop that amount of cash, I certainly wouldn't do it over eBay with a vendor whose listings look like what a 2 year old who has learnt how to code in basic HTML has done up.
Also, based on the thread that whitewave has dug up, I'd say nix the deal with them. If I was going to drop $55k, JA, Whiteflash, BGD, High Performance Diamonds or Blue Nile's Signature Ideals are where I'd rather spend my cash.
Girl, I would never go with a company that says "make me an offer...". That shows how desperate they are to sell. And no seller of such expensive goods should be that desperate to get rid of their product. The second I heard that, I woulda been outta there. Buyer beware.Good points to consider... they haven't given any offer and I also searched in their listings and it's not there. I will ask for actual picture and video of the stone and ask about a guarantee to resend to AGS for further verification. I'm not sure they'll go for this as I doubt that they actually own the diamond. Let me see what he answers to these questions and I'll take it from there... I won't discuss prices yet. If he wants me to pay that much, sending me a certificate won't be enough.
Girl, I would never go with a company that says "make me an offer...". That shows how desperate they are to sell. And no seller of such expensive goods should be that desperate to get rid of their product. The second I heard that, I woulda been outta there. Buyer beware.
Still a no for me.When you have inventory that is sitting there for too long, there will be cash flow problems. And hence the reason why they are probably trying to offload this stone to you. But they are hoping that lucida will be an uninformed consumer who will end up overpaying. If they are unwilling to share with you photos, etc, run from these guys as fast as possible and spend your hard earned money at a place which already gives you these tools to make a purchase.
As we have said many times before, there are no such things as "deals" on diamonds (at least not at the retail level, at the 2nd hand/pre-loved level, yes).
I didn't know that this was available at that a adiamor site. I will try to find it there. I did request a video and he immediately sent me the following link:
d6z2uq3gvx7kk.cloudfront.net/videos/1000936688/1000936688.html
If course, looking at this, I wouldn't know if this is the same diamond and also, it's not shining like the diamonds in WF which maybe from the way they shot it.
I also said that I'd like AGS report to be confirmed he said that he'll find out the pricing. So he didn't hesitate on anything. I will try to find it on the other site that was mentioned to see the pricing.
Adiamor list price (https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/G-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond/D23012440) and then work my way up from there.
I didn't know that this was available at that a adiamor site. I will try to find it there. I did request a video and he immediately sent me the following link:
d6z2uq3gvx7kk.cloudfront.net/videos/1000936688/1000936688.html
If course, looking at this, I wouldn't know if this is the same diamond and also, it's not shining like the diamonds in WF which maybe from the way they shot it.
I also said that I'd like AGS report to be confirmed he said that he'll find out the pricing. So he didn't hesitate on anything. I will try to find it on the other site that was mentioned to see the pricing.
Oh thank you, I hadn't seen it originally. So what do you professionals think. Is this a reputable site?I found it for you in one of my earlier posts:
Omg, you guys are awesome. I will do that! ThanksI just paused the video at certain spots where you can see that there is a laser inscription on the girdle.
The AGS report says that it is inscribed with AGSL 104059900006 on the girdle. When I pause the video, the inscription looks like it begins with GIA to my eyes. The beginning of the number also looks like it starts with a 322. I'm tentatively calling BS on the video. It's a video of a diamond, but methinks it is NOT the one he has listed.
If you are interested in this stone, reach out to Adiamor and request photos and a video if possible.
I've dug around more. I am DEFINITELY calling BS on the video link he sent to you. It was linked to from this other eBay listing which has been closed for a while now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-3ct-Round...ser-Inscribed-F-VVS1-2237766959-/352027618873
Scroll down on this listing to a picture underneath the section headed "360 View of the Actual Diamond". Hover over it and you'll find the same video link. This is supposedly a 2.3ct GIA graded F VVS1 with faint fluorescence. The 322 I mentioned that I thought I saw is likely to be the 377 in the GIA report number (GIA 2237766959) that is inscribed on that diamond. Here are some cropped images of the relevant area on the diamond video.
@lucida, you can make up your own mind about what I've found.
I haven't paid a penny! (Thank God )@lucida - I've been following this thread but not commenting because I haven't had anything really to contribute. But, after this latest development of unquestionable fraud on the part of the eBay seller, I have to say that I hope there's no question in your mind any longer if you should do business with them. Try to get your deposit money back, but either way please deal with a reputable vendor that you have learned about here on PS.