How much did you spend / would you spend on an e-ring?

[auktalent3]

This is really not about the ring anymore. Marriage is a lot of work give and take ups and down etc. Life is not black or white or practical. I will say sometihing she is a lucky girl as I am sure that the financial side of you will plan and prepare for the future. Retirement, cemetery plots, bonds for kids college education. A good job with benes for insurance etc. But when that is all set life is also about fun being frivious , creative fun ......

Life can't all be practical and getting engaged is such an amazing time to have selected your partner for life. So celebrate relax about the money and just buy her a symbol of wanting to be together size doesn't matter. But if you do buy a diamond just remember cut is king when wanting to enjoy the brillance of what has become a symbol of engagement the diamond . The hardest carbon created by millions of years in the earth

Nighttt and good look For curiosity sake please share your process and your proposal as we all thrive on the excitement of how people enjoy this part of their life

I agree with you on this, it's important to indulge in things that you enjoy and at some point you'll definitely need to spend the money you accumulate.

HI:

Since you are both "agreed/ on the same page in regard to expectation"; then get her little or nothing at all. Let us know how that goes over.

cheers--Sharon

Realistically I won't be getting her nothing, because I do believe in the symbolic nature of the ring and want to symbolize my love for her. Truthfully, we live in a very up-scale neighbourhood within one of the most expensive financial districts in the world. I think she can survive without a huge rock if it means ensuring other priorities in life are taken care of. Life is all about compromise, not only diamonds. The 4 c's within a diamond fall into a much larger diagram of life, where there are thousands of c's and only a limited capital pool for most of us.

I don't think it is relevant what any of us spent. Either as a hard number or as a percentage income.

You need to speak with your significant other and see what her expectations are. Hers are the ones that matter.

"Excessive" as some of these rings seem to you, everyone has different priorities. And NO ONE's priorities matter in this decision as much as your partner's do.

Marriage is about facing difficult issues and finding a way through them together. This is your chance to start practicing that.

I suggest you speak to your partner frankly and find out what as sensible budget is for the two of you, and go from there.

Agreed. I have had a frank discussion with her on this and as much as she agrees with me in my "rational" thinking, I know deep down she really wants a nice ring. This is why I will probably go against my honest beliefs and get her that ring that she wants - also because I can realistically afford it. I think I am trying to find a way to be at peace with myself for making arguably a very bad financial decision. Her ring could be a year of retirement living, or a year of college education for a kid, or a year of savings in case I get laid off in a highly cyclical industry, or a great investment, or used to pay for the wedding, or... you get the point. But, having said that, if it will make her happy, I am a sucker for making her happy, so I am planning on doing it.

Hi everyone,

.... one thing that struck me as odd is the sheer number of individuals with diamond rings that seem excessive. I am Canadian (with a European background) and the idea of an engagement ring costing me tens of thousands of dollars actually seems absurd ....

Thanks guys!

Dude, you're asking a bunch of obsessive hobbyists why their weird thing is important. Do finance guys have forums? Given Rule 34, I'm guessing yes ... So just imagine someone going onto one of those to question the central premise of your passion. WHY is having a lot of money so important? (See also this week's NYT op-Ed piece on wealth addiction.). Sure, there are some practical reasons, but past a certain point ... nope, it's about cultural standards and the metrics of success.

I have no close friends of Canadian extraction, so I have no idea what your general standard for symbolic relationship jewelry might be. My spouse, on the other hand, is a Swede: his people get engaged with simple gold bands and maybe bling it up with a diamond band on the day of the wedding or a significant anniversary. Nevertheless, I have what could be termed an excess of diamonds, quite simply because I think of them as portable miniature art, they make me happy, and he likes making me happy. (This is the same reason why we have Swedish flags in every room and a plethora of elk-themed paraphernalia: marriage is all about compromise, y'all.)

So the first big piece he got me, the engagement ring? I believe it was the equivalent of one month's net salary. He thought it was a weird cultural quirk, too. But given how many happy hours that thing has given me ... I'd say it amortized pretty fast. It made me feel cherished, not in spite but I think because of his beliefs. It might not have made sense to him, but he did it knowing it would please me. Symbolically, that's not a bad way to start a union, I think.

All that said, jewelry is a luxury purchase that comes way after we max out our retirement savings, kid's college fund, emergency cushion, etc., and I tend to buy estate piece that I am pretty sure I won't lose money on, should I need to resell them. A *modicum* of practicality won't hurt, I suppose.

I am glad you guys have managed to find a compromise. I think 1 month of net salary sounds very reasonable to me and that I wouldn't have a problem with that.

Talking about money is not polite.

Money talk is so taboo that there are workshops, groups & seminars for people who have it in spades. It is a very loaded subject. Probably one reason why people come here to show off their big stones. Can't do that politely in the real world, and thank goodness there are safe places where you can!

Anyway, my two cents in this discussion is that we could have afforded much more than we spent and yet I still ended up with beautiful diamonds that give me joy. Of course, we don't live in a "hot spot". We used to live in South Florida where flaunting money was the local pastime. Not much peer pressure here in rural NC.

I'm with Warren Buffet on this, folks. I like having $$ in the bank earning $$.

Amen to that! Putting money to work is the way to go.

I have to start out by saying that I'm not a fan of judgment in this matter and I think that both "Diamonds are just a product of DeBeers marketing that only suckers fall for" and "If he truly loves you he'll spend X amount on your ring" somewhat unhealthy extremes. In reality it all comes down to each individual couple and there aren't and can't be any fixed rules.

Our situation is probably different from most PSers, since we spent very little on my engagement ring. Our initial budget was roughly two weeks' of my fiance's net pay, but then I found a stone that I fell in love with and the ring came to a little over one week's net pay. We agreed that we'd eventually reset it into a three stone setting, and when we are ready I will transfer the three stone to my right hand and get a larger solitaire (if that remains a priority of course).

We were 28 and 26 when we got engaged, and while we are both working professionals and solidly (upperish) middle class, we are by no means rich and at this point splurging in one category would mean having to take away from one of the others. So a $10K ring would mean $10K less into the "move into a pricey Boston suburb with good schools when we are ready to have children" fund. For us personally that is a priority right now, and for that very same reason we are having a small Sunday wedding for just 25 of our closest friends and family instead of a huge $30K affair for hundreds of guests.

Do I sometimes feel a twinge of jealousy when I see my peers with beautiful blingy rings? You bet - I'm only human after all, and since we're in the Boston area most of the stones are much larger than mine. However, if we had to do it all over again, I'd go the exact same way about it. I'm sure I will have my large stone at some point, but not until all of our other bases are covered.
Luckily, we are both on the same page about this. For many this might be too practical of an approach, but in our case it works out very well.

Good for you guys, that's my thinking exactly. The reason I asked what people spend as a % of salary is that it's really the only way to look at it really from a financial perspective. Spending $30k on a ring is fine - assuming you've satisfied other priorities in life. If the kids are going to a crap school because the parents couldn't afford a good neighbourhood, then subsequently don't end up going to college, all to satisfy their parents expensive "hobby" is problematic.

Have you considered going the second hand route? You can get a much better deal on a stone, put it in a new setting and
you are good to go. It may take longer to find what you are looking for but it may be easier for you to swallow.

I have considered it, however thus far I've had little luck finding something decent. A few problems I've encountered include prices that are too high (for GIA of course) and simply lack of variety. It's also a bit "sketchy" because I don't really know what I am buying. Trust me though, if I could source something through this avenue, I would have no problem doing so. After all, we're all kidding ourselves if we think the diamonds we get from a jeweller are "new".

My thinking for now is to spend ~4.0% of my annual income. This will provide me with enough of a budget for a decent sized ring, albeit again, it's a bitter pill to swallow!

 

[Dancing Fire]

Talking about money is not polite.

I'm with Warren Buffet on this, folks. I like having $$ in the bank earning $$.

yeah but you can't take it with ya...

 

[Huldak]

My FI could have written your post. I'll just say this. The diamond may not be "worth" it from the perspective you've outlined, but you'll get your investment back in other ways for the rest of your life -- every time she looks at the ring you bought her. If it turns into a stressful process, she'll remember that too.

 

[Dancing Fire]

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My thinking for now is to spend ~4.0% of my annual income. This will provide me with enough of a budget for a decent sized ring, albeit again, it's a bitter pill to swallow! [/quote]



You can always find a in cheaper GF...

 

[vintagelover229]

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His son Caleb
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And there are a few other options too

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Check these sites too
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This is a great value
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an asscher at a good deal
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[recordaras]

Good for you guys, that's my thinking exactly. The reason I asked what people spend as a % of salary is that it's really the only way to look at it really from a financial perspective. Spending $30k on a ring is fine - assuming you've satisfied other priorities in life. If the kids are going to a crap school because the parents couldn't afford a good neighbourhood, then subsequently don't end up going to college, all to satisfy their parents expensive "hobby" is problematic.

Percentage wise I think it came to about 2% of net annual income?.. If we were in a different place financially and not just starting out, it could have been more, but for us right now it was a smart and practical purchase that we are both very happy with. In fact, my only monetary request was that my e-ring not be less than the hideous monstrosity that is my fiance's class ring (not sure if that has caught on in Canada - I sure hope not!).
Another option to increase the budget would have been to cut down on everyday spending, but once again it's all about priorities. Could we have survived a year or two without our CSA share and organic groceries, as well as without date nights and vacations? I guess so, but that's not something we would have been comfortable doing.

I'm sure your fiancee will be thrilled to receive the ring you get her, and she is very lucky to be marrying somebody so financially savvy. My fiance is also the financial driving force in our household, and I love him all the more for it. I'm also a European transplant and had no idea what a 401(k) was just several years ago, so on my own I would have struggled quite a bit in trying to figure it all out!

 

[spicyitalian]

Spend what you can afford and not what people think you should spend.

 

[TC1987]

We have discussed expectations so I think we're both 100% on the same page. Guess I am more just curious as to how much people generally spend. For me, it's hard to put a value on an ering because it's not something I honestly understand (maybe I am a typical guy, but jewelry has generally never interested me at all). That's precisely why I'm finding it difficult to figure out what amount is right, but I take your point that it's really an individual decision.

I also work in finance, so I am relatively well versed in money management/investing. This probably is the reason this decision is awkward for me, because it goes against most of my basic knowledge about spending money wisely (as this expense is a very unwise one from a strictly rational perspective). I feel similarly about many things that cost a lot of money but provide limited value (i.e. expensive cars, expensive watches, expensive clothes etc.). I approach all of those things practically: if you need a watch, why buy a Rolex? I can tell time with a $100 watch just as good as with the Rolex. If you need a suit, why spend $2,000 on a Prada when you can get a decent suit for $300-$500 and chances are no one will really be able to tell. To be quite honest with you guys, a lot of people make horrible financial decisions which are often fostered through a culture of excess consumerism - this goes well beyond diamonds, but they are a very good example. In the end though, smart business people know all of this and make a killing selling this stuff (trust me) to the people who actually shouldn't be buying in the first place! It's funny how that works, but it happens all the time. Anyways, just food for thought!

Yawn. Yeah, yeah. We've heard it all before. Here and elsewhere. But the point is, if one can afford it, there is nothing wrong with wanting or buying or owning something purely frivolous but fun or beautiful. Why buy any new clothes at all. The thrift stores are full of clothes. Or, you can patch the old clothes and just wear patch upon patch, and get a watch at WalMart. LOL

Do you work for free, in finance? Do you sell your services routinely below cost? Or do you believe YOU should be working to make a profit? So why is someone actually making money selling jewelry going against your grain?

I am really sick and tired of all the MEN on this board and others, bashing engagement rings, and telling us how much they don't want to spend money on an engagement ring, Or telling us how vehemently they disagree with the entire concept. This is a DIAMOND BOARD, and it is SPONSORED BY PEOPLE IN THE JEWELRY TRADE, WHO MAKE A FAIR PROFIT SELLING DIAMONDS, MOSTLY FOR ENGAGEMENT RINGS.

Here is my advice: If you truly begrudge the woman a nice decent engagement ring, or it gripes you to part with the money to pay for it, then just stay single and childfree. Because, in marriage, you are often going to have to do things that you do not necessarily like or 100% approve of. And you are going to have to accommodate, in spades, concepts or tastes or "unwise" wishes that don't personally interest you, because you will not be the only person in the house. And you will have to spend money on things that you didn't want to spend money on. Just ask any parent if you doubt that.

 

[Circe]

C'mon, now. He said he's planning to to make her happy - I think it's just a case of trying to wrap his head around an unfamiliar concept. I am STILL trying to get someone to (compellingly) explain the merit of spectator sports to me ....

 

[mrs-b]

auktalent3 -

If you can "realistically afford" it,

And you know that "deep down she wants a nice ring",

But you think she can "survive without it",

And - although "it's a bitter pill to swallow",

And despite living in "a very up-scale neighborhood within one of the most expensive financial districts in the world"

You intend to spend "~4% of your annual salary",

Because it's so important to you not to make "arguably a very bad financial decision"….

Dude, seriously, you need to rethink more than the ring.

 

[canuk-gal]

HI:

Some guy called Onassis said, "If women didn't exist, all the money in the world would have no meaning."

Let us know what you are looking for in terms of a stone...perhaps we can "help".

cheers--Sharon

 

[tyty333]

We do have a pre loved board that you can keep your eye on or even post a WTB thread to see if anyone has a stone like
you are looking for.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/[/URL]

 

[recordaras]

Oh come on, let's not make a greedy villain out of the OP! He has their future family's best interest in mind, and that is a great thing in these uncertain times. It's not like he's about to propose with a twist tie - 4% is a nice budget for a ring, and they can always upgrade later if they are so inclined.

 

[Circe]

Hm ... also, as someone who is basically the opposite of good with numbers, I didn't quite grasp what your options boiled down to in the poll until I calculated. So, okay ... my very frugal husband spent about 7.4% of his annual income on my engagement ring. At the time, he was a post-doc, so, a good salary, but not raking it it. 4% of a salary larger than a post-doc's will probably result in a more valuable piece, but at the end of the day, the numbers are probably less important than how you both feel about it: it is, after all, one of the very few things you'll probably both be looking at on a regular basis for the rest of your lives.

(BTW, if 4% of your annual salary is a year of retirement ... kudos. I think we looked at it more as the difference between "nice car" and "slightly less-nice car.")

 

[Gypsy]

I also think the OP is just trying to come to terms with something that is foreign to him, and he's doing it thoughtfully and in the right place.

That said, I don't know how fiscally conservative you are, but most people I know have hobbies. Or pets. They spend money on both. And what they get in return is joy.

I have cats. I know MANY non-pet people who just DO NOT UNDERSTAND the whole pet thing. My own step-dad (bless him) is one of them. He just did not get why, when we were planning to move from NJ to CA, we would spend all the money we did to transport our animals out here when as far as he was concerned we could "check your cats into a shelter here in NJ, fly out to CA and go to a shelter there and get new cats." I was speechless. But he was genuinely confused at what he thought was a very poor financial decision.

I think, in this case, comparing a diamond ring to a car, a watch or any other 'functional' item is a mistake. Diamonds aren't functional. And they aren't a necessity like something that you depend on for transportation or time keeping. You don't need a ring to get engaged or married. All you need is a promise from you both.

I think Circe said it best when she said compared jewelry to artwork. I personally don't find Andy Warhol's work pleasing. But if my spouse wanted to buy a piece because he did and he found joy in it, I wouldn't sit there and think... well, it's just something that is going to take space up on the wall, why can't I just buy a poster of the piece and frame it and have it function the same way on my wall. If you look at the item functionally, then you are right, it makes no sense to buy the original, when you can get a print. But you can't look at it functionally. Because the two a poster of a Warhol and the actual Warhol are very different things.

That's very similar to a diamond ring.

I don't know how much you make or how much you are planning to spend (one year of retirement???). But I do think you need to shift your perspective from looking at the ring as a functional item to instead looking at it as a piece of art, or something else that has no intrinsic function, but instead exists for pleasure and joy.

You lady will wear it almost everyday for the rest of her life. If you amortize the cost of the ring over her lifetime (40 years) isn't her happiness worth 5 dollars a day? Or whatever the number works out to?

 

[VRBeauty]

DItto everything Gypsy said.

Also, remember that many people see the engagement ring as a gift... and a very significant one at that. As such, you'd want it to be something that will delight your intended, something that she might not be able or willing to buy for herself.

 

[bgray]

auktalent3 -

If you can "realistically afford" it,

And you know that "deep down she wants a nice ring",

But you think she can "survive without it",

And - although "it's a bitter pill to swallow",

And despite living in "a very up-scale neighborhood within one of the most expensive financial districts in the world"

You intend to spend "~4% of your annual salary",

Because it's so important to you not to make "arguably a very bad financial decision"….

Dude, seriously, you need to rethink more than the ring.

Agreed: and the self congratulatory arrogance I can do without

 

[msop04]

auktalent3 -

If you can "realistically afford" it,

And you know that "deep down she wants a nice ring",

But you think she can "survive without it",

And - although "it's a bitter pill to swallow",

And despite living in "a very up-scale neighborhood within one of the most expensive financial districts in the world"

You intend to spend "~4% of your annual salary",

Because it's so important to you not to make "arguably a very bad financial decision"….

Dude, seriously, you need to rethink more than the ring.

I sort of agree with this. If she wants a nice engagement ring, then get her one. If you feel her happiness is not worth such a "bad investment" and is such a "bitter pill to swallow," then you may need to think some things through... The ering isn't all about what YOU think is worth it or not -- it's about your FF and what she will love. If you know she wants a nice one, is it so difficult to just get her one (regardless of your feelings about it)? I hope she never reads this or gets the feeling you are having such a difficult time spending your money on her... for a very symbolic ring she will wear forever. My husband thought diamonds were waaay overpriced, but he also knew that it was for me, not him, to wear and love.

Dude, don't cheap out on a ring - THE ring - just because you don't understand why we love them so.

 

[Rhea]

I think it was about 4.5 - 5% of his salary at the time and about 10 years later it's around 1 - 1.5% of his salary. A bit like Circe, my husband comes from my area where the emphasis isn't placed on larger ring. It was bought to make me happy. It's probably more than he would have spent if he were getting engaged to a nice, English girl. But he got engaged to a bling-loving American. It was affordable to him and satisfied my want to have a ring.

It may not make sense, a lot of things people spend their money doesn't, but if you can afford it and your partner wants a nice ring, get her one. She will enjoy knowing that it's not something you'd normally spring for but that you put her wants above yours. That alone sets a great tone for the upcoming marriage you're about to enter.

 

[msop04]

C'mon, now. He said he's planning to to make her happy - I think it's just a case of trying to wrap his head around an unfamiliar concept. I am STILL trying to get someone to (compellingly) explain the merit of spectator sports to me ....

It seems as if the OP is really trying to make himself happy -- or at least not unhappy -- in buying his GF the ultimate symbol of love. Now, think about that for a minute. He is also trying to get people to agree with him in spending the absolute least amount of money possible, while not looking like a cheapa$$. I also find it very arrogant to come on a diamond board and insinuate that those who don't cheap out or subscribe to his feelings regarding erings are somehow lower on the "good financial sense food chain." Lots of things we buy are terrible investments, but why does buying something you/your SO will love make it bad financial sense?? Like the poster above mentioned, you will receive a "return" on the funds spent to make your SO happy -- they just may not be monetary. Some good things are not always measured in $$$.

 

[Dreamer_D]

I live in canada. In the city where I think you live, people tend to wear larger rings than they do on the west coast where I live. So, get her what you think she wants and go all out.

If you need to justify it to yourself, amortize the money over (hopefully ) 50 years of wear -- seems a good purchase to me!

Also, consider this practice for your future marriage. You will want many things in your life that she thinks are silly -- and I don't mean financial purchases, I mean time away from family or other "things". You may want to hang flags all over the house like Circe's husband or have one of those ridiculous "man caves". So start banking some credit now in the relationship bank by buying her something that she loves despite your reservations. Later, it will pay relationship dividends.

But, more importantly than all of that, this poll has taught me that I can spend much more on my e-ring! I chose 5-6.9%, but clearly could have gone up to 10%!

 

[msop04]

I think it was about 4.5 - 5% of his salary at the time and about 10 years later it's around 1 - 1.5% of his salary. A bit like Circe, my husband comes from my area where the emphasis isn't placed on larger ring. It was bought to make me happy. It's probably more than he would have spent if he were getting engaged to a nice, English girl. But he got engaged to a bling-loving American. It was affordable to him and satisfied my want to have a ring.

It may not make sense, a lot of things people spend their money doesn't, but if you can afford it and your partner wants a nice ring, get her one. She will enjoy knowing that it's not something you'd normally spring for but that you put her wants above yours. That alone sets a great tone for the upcoming marriage you're about to enter.

Exactly.

 

[Laila619]

Oh come on, let's not make a greedy villain out of the OP! He has their future family's best interest in mind, and that is a great thing in these uncertain times. It's not like he's about to propose with a twist tie - 4% is a nice budget for a ring, and they can always upgrade later if they are so inclined.

Ditto. The OP sounds like a smart, sensible guy who cares about his girlfriend.

Also, being practical and frugal with money are good values to have IMO, no matter how wealthy you are.

 

[Niel]

My husband had no say in what my ring was or how much it would cost. I paid for it as I wanted it, and I budgeted an amount I felt was appropriate. Maybe if she wants one she can chip in? Sorry I'm not a romantic about this kind of stuff. The ring to me doesn't equate to how much you love a person (with some exceptions)

So why not have this conversation with her? Tell her you're not comfortable paying this much on a ring. She may come back with reasons she is that make sense to you. She may feel the same way. She may offer to throw in. I dunno.


Just let's hope you don't spend a lot on cars or boats or art yourself, or you won't win this battle.

 

[SB621]

Hi everyone,

.... one thing that struck me as odd is the sheer number of individuals with diamond rings that seem excessive. I am Canadian (with a European background) and the idea of an engagement ring costing me tens of thousands of dollars actually seems absurd ....

Thanks guys!

Dude, you're asking a bunch of obsessive hobbyists why their weird thing is important. Do finance guys have forums? Given Rule 34, I'm guessing yes ... So just imagine someone going onto one of those to question the central premise of your passion. WHY is having a lot of money so important? (See also this week's NYT op-Ed piece on wealth addiction.). Sure, there are some practical reasons, but past a certain point ... nope, it's about cultural standards and the metrics of success.

I have no close friends of Canadian extraction, so I have no idea what your general standard for symbolic relationship jewelry might be. My spouse, on the other hand, is a Swede: his people get engaged with simple gold bands and maybe bling it up with a diamond band on the day of the wedding or a significant anniversary. Nevertheless, I have what could be termed an excess of diamonds, quite simply because I think of them as portable miniature art, they make me happy, and he likes making me happy. (This is the same reason why we have Swedish flags in every room and a plethora of elk-themed paraphernalia: marriage is all about compromise, y'all.)

So the first big piece he got me, the engagement ring? I believe it was the equivalent of one month's net salary. He thought it was a weird cultural quirk, too. But given how many happy hours that thing has given me ... I'd say it amortized pretty fast. It made me feel cherished, not in spite but I think because of his beliefs. It might not have made sense to him, but he did it knowing it would please me. Symbolically, that's not a bad way to start a union, I think.

All that said, jewelry is a luxury purchase that comes way after we max out our retirement savings, kid's college fund, emergency cushion, etc., and I tend to buy estate piece that I am pretty sure I won't lose money on, should I need to resell them. A *modicum* of practicality won't hurt, I suppose.

Damn Circe I think I love you <3 You always write out exactly what I'm thinking but with more finesse then I could muster.

Anyhow to OP jewelery makes me happy! I personally really like big, bold statement pieces. There is little in my collection that is understated. Like Circe said as long as I'm not breaking the bank for other expenses I see Jewelery as my hobby...a bit of an expensive hobby but stuff I can past down to my DS and DD. It is my legacy to them. We all die someday so I would just rather spend my money now on things that make me happy.

 

[heididdl]

Okay now is the fun part.. Start a new thread give us a budget, shape and setting type and let us help you make the ring.. We will find you the best cut ideal stone in a budget you feel comfortable spending. This is what we do best.

 

[Missy]

I agree with much of what has already been posted (great post Gypsy) but just wanted to add one thing. If it's important to your fiancée it should be important to you. And that works both ways because in a loving and thoughtful relationship you care about what your partner wants.

Just because you don't "get" it doesn't mean it doesn't matter. Think how you would feel in her place and how you would want her to deal with it. Because it matters to her it should matter to you and you should want to make her happy if you can afford to whether or not *you* think it is worth the money or not.

Good luck and I hope you both can work this out for a happy resolution.

 

[yennyfire]

I agree with much of what has already been posted (great post Gypsy) but just wanted to add one thing. If it's important to your fiancée it should be important to you. And that works both ways because in a loving and thoughtful relationship you care about what your partner wants.

Just because you don't "get" it doesn't mean it doesn't matter. Think how you would feel in her place and how you would want her to deal with it. Because it matters to her it should matter to you and you should want to make her happy if you can afford to whether or not *you* think it is worth the money or not.

Good luck and I hope you both can work this out for a happy resolution.

Well said Missy, as always!

 

[Laila619]

We don't really know if it matters to her--has she expressly said she wants an expensive e-ring? OP isn't saying he's not going to get her anything, he's just saying he's not going to pay a huge amount of money. Outside of PS, many women don't care about $$ rings/upgrades, etc.

 

[msop04]

We don't really know if it matters to her--has she expressly said she wants an expensive e-ring? OP isn't saying he's not going to get her anything, he's just saying he's not going to pay a huge amount of money. Outside of PS, many women don't care about $$ rings/upgrades, etc.

A lot of women care, but are afraid to hurt their husband's feelings/ego.