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PrincessCath|1334914683|3175978 said:
ariel144|1334892584|3175849 said:
Here are some interesting videos on colored antique cushions and a radiant that is fancy yellow with that crushed ice facet pattern. Note that light leakage lends itself to more intensity of color.

fancy light yellow (not yet graded) August Vintage cushion video Buttery bling! (would be interesting to know what color grade it did receive.)
Enjoy the videos.

http://vimeo.com/6599079

wx AVC (very light yellow – not fancy)

http://vimeo.com/19766353

fancy yellow radiant set with intense yellow diamond halo compared to AV round.
http://vimeo.com/18131678

Very educational, Enjoy!

Thanks for the links! Yes, these videos are educational, but they are primarily promotional. I found the last one a bit disingenuous, in that the example of crushed ice FY was probably the ugliest, worst cut FY, in the ugliest setting ever to have walked the face of the earth. This shouldn't be considered a fair representative of its kind. But again, GOG is promoting a specific product, and it's fair enough provided this is taken with a grain of salt.

That said, I love the cut of their August Vintage, though I find them most of them more beige than "buttery." Lovely color, but not yellow to my eye. A matter of personal opinion I guess.

Now, the antique cut at DBL you pointed to is great: a true yellow, and a chunky cushion cut. Love it.

Hi All!

Ariel- clearly you're interested, and motivated- a wonderful combination!
PrincessCath touched upon something very important- given the educational context of PriceScope.
There's a HUGE difference between an advertisement, and an educational video.
Leakage does not cause the color in Fancy Colored Diamonds- and that's just one of the statements made that is not factually correct.
Besides factual inaccuracies, a large issue is one where a company is selling a given product- and they come up with "scientific" proof why it's better.Think of a toothpaste commercial.
"All the people using Shmetz toothpase saw a 57% increase in tooth brightness."
They can employ all kinds of techniques- like using a pretty model for their toothpaste, and an ugly one for the competition- such as the "Fancy Yellow" in the video. By repeating these as though they are gospel, it spreads the incorrect information.
Call them an ad, and I have nothing but respect for them- they're nice ads. But not educational.

There's an acquired skill in selecting the best Fancy Colored Diamonds- and if a dealer rarely carries them, it's not likely they'll have either the connections, or the knowledge to carry the best.
That might be why you've gotten the impression that a Fancy Yellow Radiant is not as nice as a yellow Sapphire.

Even the use of the term " Crushed Ice" is used in a derogatory manner, and in a way so as to include many stones that are really well cut.
Just like the Fancy Colors, if a store does not like or carry many stones with the bottomless pit of sparkle you can find in a well cut radiant they're less likely to have great examples- or even analyze them properly.
This also extends to video and photography where each type of diamond reacts to light and placement differently.

Hope this helps!
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Rockdiamond|1334942969|3176290 said:
PrincessCath|1334914683|3175978 said:
ariel144|1334892584|3175849 said:
Here are some interesting videos on colored antique cushions and a radiant that is fancy yellow with that crushed ice facet pattern. Note that light leakage lends itself to more intensity of color.

fancy light yellow (not yet graded) August Vintage cushion video Buttery bling! (would be interesting to know what color grade it did receive.)
Enjoy the videos.

http://vimeo.com/6599079

wx AVC (very light yellow – not fancy)

http://vimeo.com/19766353

fancy yellow radiant set with intense yellow diamond halo compared to AV round.
http://vimeo.com/18131678

Very educational, Enjoy!

Thanks for the links! Yes, these videos are educational, but they are primarily promotional. I found the last one a bit disingenuous, in that the example of crushed ice FY was probably the ugliest, worst cut FY, in the ugliest setting ever to have walked the face of the earth. This shouldn't be considered a fair representative of its kind. But again, GOG is promoting a specific product, and it's fair enough provided this is taken with a grain of salt.

That said, I love the cut of their August Vintage, though I find them most of them more beige than "buttery." Lovely color, but not yellow to my eye. A matter of personal opinion I guess.

Now, the antique cut at DBL you pointed to is great: a true yellow, and a chunky cushion cut. Love it.

Hi All!

Ariel- clearly you're interested, and motivated- a wonderful combination!
PrincessCath touched upon something very important- given the educational context of PriceScope.
There's a HUGE difference between an advertisement, and an educational video.
Leakage does not cause the color in Fancy Colored Diamonds- and that's just one of the statements made that is not factually correct.
Besides factual inaccuracies, a large issue is one where a company is selling a given product- and they come up with "scientific" proof why it's better.Think of a toothpaste commercial.
"All the people using Shmetz toothpase saw a 57% increase in tooth brightness."
They can employ all kinds of techniques- like using a pretty model for their toothpaste, and an ugly one for the competition- such as the "Fancy Yellow" in the video. By repeating these as though they are gospel, it spreads the incorrect information.
Call them an ad, and I have nothing but respect for them- they're nice ads. But not educational.

There's an acquired skill in selecting the best Fancy Colored Diamonds- and if a dealer rarely carries them, it's not likely they'll have either the connections, or the knowledge to carry the best.
That might be why you've gotten the impression that a Fancy Yellow Radiant is not as nice as a yellow Sapphire.

Even the use of the term " Crushed Ice" is used in a derogatory manner, and in a way so as to include many stones that are really well cut.
Just like the Fancy Colors, if a store does not like or carry many stones with the bottomless pit of sparkle you can find in a well cut radiant they're less likely to have great examples- or even analyze them properly.
This also extends to video and photography where each type of diamond reacts to light and placement differently.

Hope this helps!
-

David I was not able to find your contact info on the site :(
Clearly you know a lot about yellow diamonds and I am intrigued! Is there a private message feature for for this forum?
 

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I will be gone for work until Sunday but HOLY MOLY I just discovered Van Crayenest settings! Too bad it's probably way out of my price range ;(
 

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lereveur|1334944204|3176312 said:
I will be gone for work until Sunday but HOLY MOLY I just discovered Van Crayenest settings! Too bad it's probably way out of my price range ;(


David is Diamonds by Lauren (great to work with, but I"m partial as I got my FLY from him)

Ok Van Crayenest settings...and this is just my opinion but you need to be careful because I think they would look "off" with a cushion cut in them. I think they look great with RB's but I'm just not a fan. How do you feel about a three stone with half moons- I think I might have already suggested this. What does your gf like? Even with a colored diamond most women (especially younger women) prefer white gold or plantinum. Does she wear YG?
 

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PrincessCath|1334914683|3175978 said:
ariel144|1334892584|3175849 said:
Here are some interesting videos on colored antique cushions and a radiant that is fancy yellow with that crushed ice facet pattern. Note that light leakage lends itself to more intensity of color.

fancy light yellow (not yet graded) August Vintage cushion video Buttery bling! (would be interesting to know what color grade it did receive.)
Enjoy the videos.

http://vimeo.com/6599079

wx AVC (very light yellow – not fancy)

http://vimeo.com/19766353

fancy yellow radiant set with intense yellow diamond halo compared to AV round.
http://vimeo.com/18131678

Very educational, Enjoy!

Thanks for the links! Yes, these videos are educational, but they are primarily promotional. I found the last one a bit disingenuous, in that the example of crushed ice FY was probably the ugliest, worst cut FY, in the ugliest setting ever to have walked the face of the earth. This shouldn't be considered a fair representative of its kind. But again, GOG is promoting a specific product, and it's fair enough provided this is taken with a grain of salt.

That said, I love the cut of their August Vintage, though I find them most of them more beige than "buttery." Lovely color, but not yellow to my eye. A matter of personal opinion I guess.

Now, the antique cut at DBL you pointed to is great: a true yellow, and a chunky cushion cut. Love it.

"I found the last one a bit disingenuous, in that the example of crushed ice FY was probably the ugliest, worst cut FY, in the ugliest setting ever to have walked the face of the earth. This shouldn't be considered a fair representative of its kind."

LOL, yes that was a gaudy ring IMO, and don't think it was cheap to produce, but someone may love it and they did because I believe they sold it. I know GOG has sold them and finds them for those that love them. Do you really think they would purchase a really ugly diamond just for the sake of selling their branded antique cushions? I just find that very hard to believe. Some people like that look, that is why they sell...to each his own. Sorry, but JMO.

This educational video on crushed ice diamonds proves my point on what they like and sell...they sell bright crushed ice diamonds and promote them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYPKsQosNMQ&feature=relmfu
 

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Sarahbear621|1334946479|3176364 said:
lereveur|1334944204|3176312 said:
I will be gone for work until Sunday but HOLY MOLY I just discovered Van Crayenest settings! Too bad it's probably way out of my price range ;(


David is Diamonds by Lauren (great to work with, but I"m partial as I got my FLY from him)

Ok Van Crayenest settings...and this is just my opinion but you need to be careful because I think they would look "off" with a cushion cut in them. I think they look great with RB's but I'm just not a fan. How do you feel about a three stone with half moons- I think I might have already suggested this. What does your gf like? Even with a colored diamond most women (especially younger women) prefer white gold or plantinum. Does she wear YG?


She's more of a vintage girl. She's very detail orientated and appreciates the detail that goes in to anything. She's not really "modern" especially when it comes to jewelry. She's the only person I know that listens to opera and classical music in the car rather than any of the radio stations... while driving to the mountains to hike. She's in a few words... elegant but outdoorsy. :lol:

I would be willing to look at the half moons because I think they're very good looking, if they were in my price range. But I would want the center stone to stand out the most.

She does wear platinum rings because they're durable, but she also has YG pieces. Theres one necklace she always wears and it's a small colorless diamond on a thin YG strand.

Maybe a mostly WG or Platinum band with little bit of YG?
 

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Sarahbear621|1334946479|3176364 said:
Even with a colored diamond most women (especially younger women) prefer white gold or plantinum.

I don't think this kind of blanket statement is quite justified. This reminds me of another FCD thread that turned into a discussion of the assumption that "only men like blue diamonds." Fashions come and go, but I see a bit of everything these days.

I think the choice WG/YG/plat should be determined by the individual taste of the parties, and to some extent the allergies of the wearer. If lereveur and his fiancee love Van Craeynest, let them go for it, or something similar. Personally I find the detail and period style amazing. They do have both white and yellow gold, and a mix of both, BTW.
 

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Ariel144, is there a reason you don't think VC settings would go well with a cushion cut?
 

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PrincessCath|1334950080|3176459 said:
This reminds me of another FCD thread that turned into a discussion of the assumption that "only men like blue diamonds."

Baby boys should be shrouded in blue diamonds.
Pink diamonds for baby girls.

Yes, of course pick the metal that appeals to you.
I can understand someone wanting platinum around a cool blue, but someone else loving the dramatic contrast of rose gold around a blue diamond.
 

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PrincessCath|1334950080|3176459 said:
Sarahbear621|1334946479|3176364 said:
Even with a colored diamond most women (especially younger women) prefer white gold or plantinum.

I don't think this kind of blanket statement is quite justified. This reminds me of another FCD thread that turned into a discussion of the assumption that "only men like blue diamonds." Fashions come and go, but I see a bit of everything these days.

I think the choice WG/YG/plat should be determined by the individual taste of the parties, and to some extent the allergies of the wearer. If lereveur and his fiancee love Van Craeynest, let them go for it, or something similar. Personally I find the detail and period style amazing. They do have both white and yellow gold, and a mix of both, BTW.

I know my girlfriend is not fond of blue diamonds haha. She would much prefer a minty green!

She doesn't have any allergies to gold or platinum thankfully. Although she can't wear sterling silver because it makes her ears swell like crazy.

I started all the way from the antique board because I knew art deco period was what she liked. I'm learning as I go :)

PrincessCath is there a setting from VC or something similar that you think would go well with the cushion cut? I'm not sure I'll be able to afford it but I could always ask or get some variation of the style
 

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lereveur|1334944109|3176309 said:
Rockdiamond|1334942969|3176290 said:
PrincessCath|1334914683|3175978 said:
ariel144|1334892584|3175849 said:
Here are some interesting videos on colored antique cushions and a radiant that is fancy yellow with that crushed ice facet pattern. Note that light leakage lends itself to more intensity of color.

fancy light yellow (not yet graded) August Vintage cushion video Buttery bling! (would be interesting to know what color grade it did receive.)
Enjoy the videos.

http://vimeo.com/6599079

wx AVC (very light yellow – not fancy)

http://vimeo.com/19766353

fancy yellow radiant set with intense yellow diamond halo compared to AV round.
http://vimeo.com/18131678

Very educational, Enjoy!

Thanks for the links! Yes, these videos are educational, but they are primarily promotional. I found the last one a bit disingenuous, in that the example of crushed ice FY was probably the ugliest, worst cut FY, in the ugliest setting ever to have walked the face of the earth. This shouldn't be considered a fair representative of its kind. But again, GOG is promoting a specific product, and it's fair enough provided this is taken with a grain of salt.

That said, I love the cut of their August Vintage, though I find them most of them more beige than "buttery." Lovely color, but not yellow to my eye. A matter of personal opinion I guess.

Now, the antique cut at DBL you pointed to is great: a true yellow, and a chunky cushion cut. Love it.

Hi All!

Ariel- clearly you're interested, and motivated- a wonderful combination!
PrincessCath touched upon something very important- given the educational context of PriceScope.
There's a HUGE difference between an advertisement, and an educational video.
Leakage does not cause the color in Fancy Colored Diamonds- and that's just one of the statements made that is not factually correct.
Besides factual inaccuracies, a large issue is one where a company is selling a given product- and they come up with "scientific" proof why it's better.Think of a toothpaste commercial.
"All the people using Shmetz toothpase saw a 57% increase in tooth brightness."
They can employ all kinds of techniques- like using a pretty model for their toothpaste, and an ugly one for the competition- such as the "Fancy Yellow" in the video. By repeating these as though they are gospel, it spreads the incorrect information.
Call them an ad, and I have nothing but respect for them- they're nice ads. But not educational.

There's an acquired skill in selecting the best Fancy Colored Diamonds- and if a dealer rarely carries them, it's not likely they'll have either the connections, or the knowledge to carry the best.
That might be why you've gotten the impression that a Fancy Yellow Radiant is not as nice as a yellow Sapphire.

Even the use of the term " Crushed Ice" is used in a derogatory manner, and in a way so as to include many stones that are really well cut.
Just like the Fancy Colors, if a store does not like or carry many stones with the bottomless pit of sparkle you can find in a well cut radiant they're less likely to have great examples- or even analyze them properly.
This also extends to video and photography where each type of diamond reacts to light and placement differently.

Hope this helps!
-

David I was not able to find your contact info on the site :(
Clearly you know a lot about yellow diamonds and I am intrigued! Is there a private message feature for for this forum?

Hi- on the top right hand corner of every page there's a "contact us" button
 

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lereveur|1334950289|3176467 said:
Ariel144, is there a reason you don't think VC settings would go well with a cushion cut?

I love their settings and they go great with cushion cut diamonds, in fact just found this thread...sorry it is GOG AVC's and there are several VC rings on here. There is a thread somewhere "show me your VC rings" ...I will find it and post.

cushion cut is the oldest cut there is, of course they look great in an antique style ring of any type, IMO

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-avc-avoec-diamonds.123446/page-4']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-avc-avoec-diamonds.123446/page-4[/URL]
Aeolianarpa's 1.1 J SI1 AVC in a Van Craeynest setting

There is another one on this thread too in yellow gold. towards the last page...but lots of ideas for AVC and AVR's which are both antique cut stones.

Was curious too how expensive they are. so unique.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-some-van-craeynest.79472/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-some-van-craeynest.79472/[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-some-van-craeynest.79472/page-26']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-some-van-craeynest.79472/page-26[/URL]

Enjoy!

ok, 1 more...can you get enough??? LOL

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/good-old-gold-avoec-van-craeynest-ering-thanks-psers.137547/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/good-old-gold-avoec-van-craeynest-ering-thanks-psers.137547/[/URL]
 

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ariel144|1334949572|3176444 said:
PrincessCath|1334914683|3175978 said:
ariel144|1334892584|3175849 said:
Here are some interesting videos on colored antique cushions and a radiant that is fancy yellow with that crushed ice facet pattern. Note that light leakage lends itself to more intensity of color.

fancy light yellow (not yet graded) August Vintage cushion video Buttery bling! (would be interesting to know what color grade it did receive.)
Enjoy the videos.

http://vimeo.com/6599079

wx AVC (very light yellow – not fancy)

http://vimeo.com/19766353

fancy yellow radiant set with intense yellow diamond halo compared to AV round.
http://vimeo.com/18131678

Very educational, Enjoy!

Thanks for the links! Yes, these videos are educational, but they are primarily promotional. I found the last one a bit disingenuous, in that the example of crushed ice FY was probably the ugliest, worst cut FY, in the ugliest setting ever to have walked the face of the earth. This shouldn't be considered a fair representative of its kind. But again, GOG is promoting a specific product, and it's fair enough provided this is taken with a grain of salt.

That said, I love the cut of their August Vintage, though I find them most of them more beige than "buttery." Lovely color, but not yellow to my eye. A matter of personal opinion I guess.

Now, the antique cut at DBL you pointed to is great: a true yellow, and a chunky cushion cut. Love it.

"I found the last one a bit disingenuous, in that the example of crushed ice FY was probably the ugliest, worst cut FY, in the ugliest setting ever to have walked the face of the earth. This shouldn't be considered a fair representative of its kind."

LOL, yes that was a gaudy ring IMO, and don't think it was cheap to produce, but someone may love it and they did because I believe they sold it. I know GOG has sold them and finds them for those that love them. Do you really think they would purchase a really ugly diamond just for the sake of selling their branded antique cushions? I just find that very hard to believe. Some people like that look, that is why they sell...to each his own. Sorry, but JMO.

This educational video on crushed ice diamonds proves my point on what they like and sell...they sell bright crushed ice diamonds and promote them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYPKsQosNMQ&feature=relmfu

HI Ariel- again- this is an ad- a very nice one- but it's not educational, other that to education with the intent to promote a certain type of diamond. There's no objective assessment of the "bad" diamonds. The video is not about the type of stones I have called "crushed ice". Maybe it's a terminology thing.

During the video, the "Watery shushy" princess cut at 5 minutes in- I agree, it's not a well cut stone- however, the square radiant shown is also extremely dark in the center. I am not saying it's not a lovely stone- it very well might be- but in that video you can't tell. I can tell that it is not cut like the originator of the cut envisioned- so the results are not what I have called "crushed ice"
The princess cut at 6 minutes looks very nice. But also not crushed ice.

At 10 minutes we see a second "slush" stone versus a few other nicely cut diamonds- again, we have had the opportunity to see the promoted stone which opens the video in a holder which opens the pavilion to light- but the "bad" stones are never allowed to be seen in that manner.
The "bad" cushion may have many positive attributes. It actually looked interesting- may have been a large stone for it's weight- might look nice in a vintage setting- and importantly, it might cost a lot less than a more "ideal" cut by one person's standards.
When you see a very bright type of sparkle- totally "disorganized" yet somehow having bright sparkles coming back from all parts of the stone- limited or no dark areas- that's what I used to refer to as "crushed ice"- but it's probably not the best name for the phenomenon anyway...
 

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Don't forget, Blue Nile also has a nice colection of coloured diamonds, mainly yellow. They sell Fancy Yellow, Fancy Light Yellow, Yellow, and Intsense Yellow! www.bluenile.com
 

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Here is the OMC ring with the yellow diamond placed in the donut. It shows through the culet. Also love the rectangular stones set East to West...more finger coverage and so nice. This is a great diamond with the Kozibe effect - culet facet reflections on the edge of the table so you see the yellow dots throughout this stone in certain pictures:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-2-30-ct-omb-antique-cushion-upgrade.158760/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-2-30-ct-omb-antique-cushion-upgrade.158760/[/URL]
 

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ariel144|1335025515|3177174 said:
Here is the OMC ring with the yellow diamond placed in the donut. It shows through the culet. Also love the rectangular stones set East to West...more finger coverage and so nice. This is a great diamond with the Kozibe effect - culet facet reflections on the edge of the table so you see the yellow dots throughout this stone in certain pictures:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-2-30-ct-omb-antique-cushion-upgrade.158760/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-2-30-ct-omb-antique-cushion-upgrade.158760/[/URL]

Ariel144, thank you for posting a lot of links... but I don't see how any of these links have anything to do with my fancy light yellow diamond. Like I stated before, I do not see the type of yellow in any of the diamonds you've posted and I am not interested in any of them.
 

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Rockdiamond|1334969925|3176788 said:
ariel144|1334949572|3176444 said:
PrincessCath|1334914683|3175978 said:
ariel144|1334892584|3175849 said:
Here are some interesting videos on colored antique cushions and a radiant that is fancy yellow with that crushed ice facet pattern. Note that light leakage lends itself to more intensity of color.

fancy light yellow (not yet graded) August Vintage cushion video Buttery bling! (would be interesting to know what color grade it did receive.)
Enjoy the videos.

http://vimeo.com/6599079

wx AVC (very light yellow – not fancy)

http://vimeo.com/19766353

fancy yellow radiant set with intense yellow diamond halo compared to AV round.
http://vimeo.com/18131678

Very educational, Enjoy!

Thanks for the links! Yes, these videos are educational, but they are primarily promotional. I found the last one a bit disingenuous, in that the example of crushed ice FY was probably the ugliest, worst cut FY, in the ugliest setting ever to have walked the face of the earth. This shouldn't be considered a fair representative of its kind. But again, GOG is promoting a specific product, and it's fair enough provided this is taken with a grain of salt.

That said, I love the cut of their August Vintage, though I find them most of them more beige than "buttery." Lovely color, but not yellow to my eye. A matter of personal opinion I guess.

Now, the antique cut at DBL you pointed to is great: a true yellow, and a chunky cushion cut. Love it.

"I found the last one a bit disingenuous, in that the example of crushed ice FY was probably the ugliest, worst cut FY, in the ugliest setting ever to have walked the face of the earth. This shouldn't be considered a fair representative of its kind."

LOL, yes that was a gaudy ring IMO, and don't think it was cheap to produce, but someone may love it and they did because I believe they sold it. I know GOG has sold them and finds them for those that love them. Do you really think they would purchase a really ugly diamond just for the sake of selling their branded antique cushions? I just find that very hard to believe. Some people like that look, that is why they sell...to each his own. Sorry, but JMO.

This educational video on crushed ice diamonds proves my point on what they like and sell...they sell bright crushed ice diamonds and promote them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYPKsQosNMQ&feature=relmfu

HI Ariel- again- this is an ad- a very nice one- but it's not educational, other that to education with the intent to promote a certain type of diamond. There's no objective assessment of the "bad" diamonds. The video is not about the type of stones I have called "crushed ice". Maybe it's a terminology thing.

During the video, the "Watery shushy" princess cut at 5 minutes in- I agree, it's not a well cut stone- however, the square radiant shown is also extremely dark in the center. I am not saying it's not a lovely stone- it very well might be- but in that video you can't tell. I can tell that it is not cut like the originator of the cut envisioned- so the results are not what I have called "crushed ice"
The princess cut at 6 minutes looks very nice. But also not crushed ice.

At 10 minutes we see a second "slush" stone versus a few other nicely cut diamonds- again, we have had the opportunity to see the promoted stone which opens the video in a holder which opens the pavilion to light- but the "bad" stones are never allowed to be seen in that manner.
The "bad" cushion may have many positive attributes. It actually looked interesting- may have been a large stone for it's weight- might look nice in a vintage setting- and importantly, it might cost a lot less than a more "ideal" cut by one person's standards.
When you see a very bright type of sparkle- totally "disorganized" yet somehow having bright sparkles coming back from all parts of the stone- limited or no dark areas- that's what I used to refer to as "crushed ice"- but it's probably not the best name for the phenomenon anyway...

Yes, the second radiant that he seemed to like the best was dark on the top half under the table. Was waiting for him to comment on that. But note he stated for the client to re-watch the video to see what their own perspective was of the stones. The AVC was shown only to show the diff. facet pattern and was not a contender for the client but to show others a diff. look in diamond faceting. He wasn't trying to "sell" the AVC...that was NOT the point of the video IMO. I labeled the video "educational" not Jon. You can pick apart his videos that he does at a great time expense on his part for his clients but they do help others who are trying to find the perfect stone for their price range to know what is out there and to determine the faceting pattern that they like the best.

Yes the 'crushed ice' stone was large and might be bright enough for someone at their budget and just what they want. It was a great video to see differing looks among radiants and different cut diamonds. The video was educational for me, a lay person, and probably for many others as well. He has other videos showing the crushed ice look...like I stated to each his own....many like that look and buy it. You sell it and GOG sells it too. I do not sell diamonds and I'm giving my perspective here, but I do appreciate the input and the time you spend in here helping to educate us novices.
 

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ariel144|1334963286|3176704 said:
you might also try Leigh Jay Nacht they have antique style rings and may be just what you need at your price point.

http://antiqueengagementrings.com

Here's a deal (note you can sell the center stone and replace the head to fit your yellow diamond):

http://www.recycledbride.com/listing/engagement-ring/van-craeynest-engagement-set-74-ring-and-band

here are some...all with center stones though;
http://jatelierinc.com/product_cats/clearance-items/

These links were very helpful, thank you. It showed me how the diamonds look on the settings. I don't think I would want to go through selling a stone though. But thank you
 

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lereveur|1335031999|3177234 said:
ariel144|1335025515|3177174 said:
Here is the OMC ring with the yellow diamond placed in the donut. It shows through the culet. Also love the rectangular stones set East to West...more finger coverage and so nice. This is a great diamond with the Kozibe effect - culet facet reflections on the edge of the table so you see the yellow dots throughout this stone in certain pictures:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-2-30-ct-omb-antique-cushion-upgrade.158760/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-2-30-ct-omb-antique-cushion-upgrade.158760/[/URL]

Ariel144, thank you for posting a lot of links... but I don't see how any of these links have anything to do with my fancy light yellow diamond. Like I stated before, I do not see the type of yellow in any of the diamonds you've posted and I am not interested in any of them.

That ring has nothing to do with the diamonds i posted. I thought you had made your choice. That stone is an Old Mine Cut cushion O/P color and it has a yellow diamond placed in the donut to reflect more yellow in the stone, for those attempting the make a fancy light yellow diamond have a higher yellow color when set. It was part of the discussion of yellow diamond setting which included setting them in yellow gold etc. I just thought it was interesting.

The 1.5c stone you chose was rectangular so I was showing you what a cushion set E/W looked like and is very attractive set that way to a lot of people. It had absolutely nothing to do with any other stones posted here. Didn't mean to confuse you but thought it might give you some ideas for when you set your 1.5 fancy light yellow. Although I don't think your stone has an open culet. But it agrees with what David stated that the way FLY diamonds are set can help them present a more vivid yellow color.
 

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Bringing this post back to my track, I have decided that I will be getting the Van Craeynest 457 setting :love:
I have contacted them and they said that they could make the basket in yellow gold and the band in white gold. I am really excited about this. What do you guys think?

fancy-light-yellow-cushion-diamond-19968.1.502e4.jpg van%20craeynest.jpg

I know there's the "white spots" because it might not be even but I think my girlfriend will love it. It just means she can have both colorless and yellow diamond! :bigsmile:
 

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ariel144|1335032902|3177245 said:
lereveur|1335031999|3177234 said:
ariel144|1335025515|3177174 said:
Here is the OMC ring with the yellow diamond placed in the donut. It shows through the culet. Also love the rectangular stones set East to West...more finger coverage and so nice. This is a great diamond with the Kozibe effect - culet facet reflections on the edge of the table so you see the yellow dots throughout this stone in certain pictures:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-2-30-ct-omb-antique-cushion-upgrade.158760/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-2-30-ct-omb-antique-cushion-upgrade.158760/[/URL]

Ariel144, thank you for posting a lot of links... but I don't see how any of these links have anything to do with my fancy light yellow diamond. Like I stated before, I do not see the type of yellow in any of the diamonds you've posted and I am not interested in any of them.

That ring has nothing to do with the diamonds i posted. I thought you had made your choice. That stone is an Old Mine Cut cushion O/P color and it has a yellow diamond placed in the donut to reflect more yellow in the stone, for those attempting the make a fancy light yellow diamond have a higher yellow color when set. It was part of the discussion of yellow diamond setting which included setting them in yellow gold etc. I just thought it was interesting.

The 1.5c stone you chose was rectangular so I was showing you what a cushion set E/W looked like and is very attractive set that way to a lot of people. It had absolutely nothing to do with any other stones posted here. Didn't mean to confuse you but thought it might give you some ideas for when you set your 1.5 fancy light yellow. Although I don't think your stone has an open culet. But it agrees with what David stated that the way FLY diamonds are set can help them present a more vivid yellow color.


I see, well then thanks so much. The abundance of information from Pricescope has helped me very much :) I will be going with a yellow gold basket to set off the stone
 

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lereveur|1335033321|3177248 said:
Bringing this post back to my track, I have decided that I will be getting the Van Craeynest 457 setting :love:
I have contacted them and they said that they could make the basket in yellow gold and the band in white gold. I am really excited about this. What do you guys think?

fancy-light-yellow-cushion-diamond-19968.1.502e4.jpg van%20craeynest.jpg

I know there's the "white spots" because it might not be even but I think my girlfriend will love it. It just means she can have both colorless and yellow diamond! :bigsmile:

GORGEOUS!!! I think that setting is stunning. It really looks great in the yellow gold though, are you sure you want to change it?
 

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lereveur|1335033321|3177248 said:
Bringing this post back to my track, I have decided that I will be getting the Van Craeynest 457 setting :love:
I have contacted them and they said that they could make the basket in yellow gold and the band in white gold. I am really excited about this. What do you guys think?

fancy-light-yellow-cushion-diamond-19968.1.502e4.jpg van%20craeynest.jpg

I know there's the "white spots" because it might not be even but I think my girlfriend will love it. It just means she can have both colorless and yellow diamond! :bigsmile:


This is a gorgeous set. Beautiful detail. Your fiancee will have a unique e-ring. :appl: Congratulations!
 

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if that is your gf's style...I think that is a beautiful ring combination.
 

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Laila619|1335033852|3177258 said:
lereveur|1335033321|3177248 said:
Bringing this post back to my track, I have decided that I will be getting the Van Craeynest 457 setting :love:
I have contacted them and they said that they could make the basket in yellow gold and the band in white gold. I am really excited about this. What do you guys think?

fancy-light-yellow-cushion-diamond-19968.1.502e4.jpg van%20craeynest.jpg

I know there's the "white spots" because it might not be even but I think my girlfriend will love it. It just means she can have both colorless and yellow diamond! :bigsmile:

GORGEOUS!!! I think that setting is stunning. It really looks great in the yellow gold though, are you sure you want to change it?

Although I do agree very much so that it looks great in yellow gold, I feel it will suit her more and her every day wear if it was in white gold and I think it might even set off the yellow in the diamond more? :) And thank you!
 

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PrincessCath|1335033946|3177260 said:
This is a gorgeous set. Beautiful detail. Your fiancee will have a unique e-ring. :appl: Congratulations!


Thank you! for all your help too :)
 

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lereveur|1335034493|3177267 said:
Laila619|1335033852|3177258 said:
lereveur|1335033321|3177248 said:
Bringing this post back to my track, I have decided that I will be getting the Van Craeynest 457 setting :love:
I have contacted them and they said that they could make the basket in yellow gold and the band in white gold. I am really excited about this. What do you guys think?

fancy-light-yellow-cushion-diamond-19968.1.502e4.jpg van%20craeynest.jpg

I know there's the "white spots" because it might not be even but I think my girlfriend will love it. It just means she can have both colorless and yellow diamond! :bigsmile:

GORGEOUS!!! I think that setting is stunning. It really looks great in the yellow gold though, are you sure you want to change it?

Although I do agree very much so that it looks great in yellow gold, I feel it will suit her more and her every day wear if it was in white gold and I think it might even set off the yellow in the diamond more? :) And thank you!

Yes the contrast to the yellow diamond set in white gold will be perfect. Your nice yellow stone might get lost in a yellow gold setting. Perfect...nice choice.
 

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PrincessCath|1334950080|3176459 said:
Sarahbear621|1334946479|3176364 said:
Even with a colored diamond most women (especially younger women) prefer white gold or plantinum.

I don't think this kind of blanket statement is quite justified. This reminds me of another FCD thread that turned into a discussion of the assumption that "only men like blue diamonds." Fashions come and go, but I see a bit of everything these days.

I think the choice WG/YG/plat should be determined by the individual taste of the parties, and to some extent the allergies of the wearer. If lereveur and his fiancee love Van Craeynest, let them go for it, or something similar. Personally I find the detail and period style amazing. They do have both white and yellow gold, and a mix of both, BTW.


Someone awhile back posted an article that over 90% of engagment rings sold today are white gold, PLAT or similar. So I think it is quite justified. Notice I said most women as that is the trend these days not all. :read:

L- Personally the ring you are putting together is not my style as I'm more art deco and simple- throw a halo around anything and I'm in love. However, I am glad you switched the ring to white gold with the basket in yellow gold. I think the two tone will really even out the ring making the diamond stand out more. I hope she loves it and a very happy early congratulations on your engagement! :love:
 
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