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DejaWiz

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2.71 E VS1, HPHT, no color nuances, hits the 9mm mark...$3125 before 3% discount code.
See anything out of the ordinary, Kim N?

 

Kim N

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2.71 E VS1, HPHT, no color nuances, hits the 9mm mark...$3125 before 3% discount code.
See anything out of the ordinary, Kim N?


Nope, awesome stone, DejaWiz!

If this hits the mark for you, Musa15, I'd put it on hold!
 
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Musa15

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Nope, awesome stone, DejaWiz!

If this hits the mark for you, Musa15, I'd put it on hold!

ok, now I have too many options! first world problems :)
Should I run these by the HCA tool? Between the options you sent over @Kim N and @DejaWiz are there a few that bubble to the top in terms of proportions?

I *can* go larger (in terms of carat weight and spread :D ) just looking to not go over budget again.
 

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ok, now I have too many options! first world problems :)
Should I run these by the HCA tool? Between the options you sent over @Kim N and @DejaWiz are there a few that bubble to the top in terms of proportions?

I *can* go larger (in terms of carat weight and spread :D ) just looking to not go over budget again.

The 2.71 is the winner in my book, being HPHT with no blue nuance. You wouldn't lose any spread from your 2.74.

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ok, now I have too many options! first world problems :)
Should I run these by the HCA tool? Between the options you sent over @Kim N and @DejaWiz are there a few that bubble to the top in terms of proportions?

I *can* go larger (in terms of carat weight and spread :D ) just looking to not go over budget again.

I'd go as colorless non-nuanced HPHT as your dollar can buy, if it were me. It will be as close as it gets to a naturally forming diamond as one can get without the naturally forming price tag.
 

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@Musa15 off topic but what size is your cushion cut? :mrgreen:
 

Musa15

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@Musa15 off topic but what size is your cushion cut? :mrgreen:

It’s a 2.6ct but very spready elongated cut! It’s gorgeous but from an engagement that went nowhere :( I need to reset it into something else maybe in a few years. I’m in a better place now and it’s a shame it doesn’t get used.
 

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Nope, awesome stone, DejaWiz!

If this hits the mark for you, Musa15, I'd put it on hold!

I agree... HPHT stones are much harder to find too!! Sorry with my above post. I didn't mean to hijack your thread. I just related because I was feeling the same way about my diamond!
 

Musa15

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@DejaWiz and @Kim N thank you for the 2.71 recommendation. It is unfortunate that there are no comments around h&a and such. The current diamond is so exceptionally symmetrical that I know I will need to fall in love with both the cut and color now! Is there another option so I can pull at least 2 in to compare? It's difficult for me to judge symmetry via the videos and all ideal stones seem to be graded as "ex" for symmetry but that spans such a wide range. The new stone can be bigger :) just not any smaller in mm.
 

Kim N

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@DejaWiz and @Kim N thank you for the 2.71 recommendation. It is unfortunate that there are no comments around h&a and such. The current diamond is so exceptionally symmetrical that I know I will need to fall in love with both the cut and color now! Is there another option so I can pull at least 2 in to compare? It's difficult for me to judge symmetry via the videos and all ideal stones seem to be graded as "ex" for symmetry but that spans such a wide range. The new stone can be bigger :) just not any smaller in mm.

I wouldn't take the absence of the H&A comment as an indication that it's not H&A.

How about these two, so you can compare three different sizes and colors?


 

Musa15

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@Kim N these look lovely do you happen to have their HCA score?
 

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I'd go as colorless non-nuanced HPHT as your dollar can buy, if it were me. It will be as close as it gets to a naturally forming diamond as one can get without the naturally forming price tag.

Is there a filter option for HPHT? I feel like ANY stone i click on is CVD
 

Musa15

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Is there a filter option for HPHT? I feel like ANY stone i click on is CVD

I don't think there is unfortunately. I guess distributors don't find it necessary to distinguish between the two. Just for my own edification what are the benefits of HPHT vs CVD in terms of observable differences?
 

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I don't think there is unfortunately. I guess distributors don't find it necessary to distinguish between the two. Just for my own edification what are the benefits of HPHT vs CVD in terms of observable differences?

well thats the thing, there 'supposedly' isn't one, but since there's this 'greyness' issue we both see, i was wondering if it could possibly be a factor?? I mean, maybe it's just cut 100% but i was curious to look and see if i see a difference to my eye or not
 

Kim N

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Is there a filter option for HPHT? I feel like ANY stone i click on is CVD

I don't think there is unfortunately. I guess distributors don't find it necessary to distinguish between the two. Just for my own edification what are the benefits of HPHT vs CVD in terms of observable differences?

There's no filter option for HPHT. Most HPHT stones I've found are D or E color. There definitely are some in other colors, but it's not as common, especially the larger you go.

You can find both good and bad HPHT and CVD stones. CVD tends to be cheaper as it's more easily grown. The downsides are the potential brown or grey tint, striations, haziness, and birefringence.

HPHT with no blue nuance will look closest to a natural diamond.
 

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Do you have the certificate or other info about cut?

EDIT. I think if anything is bothering you about it now, it will only grow to bother you more over time (at least that's been my experience). So if you have time to return and re-start I think that's a good idea!

I totally agree. If it bothers you now, it will continue to do so. Return it while you can!
 

Musa15

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Ok all, thank you for the support and hearing me out. I have decided to return the diamond and contacted CO for a return authorization. I dm'd Alex from parksantiquelab on IG and showed him the stone and he agreed it was a lower quality gray stone (although cut well). :(

@DejaWiz Ritani was able to hold this:

2.71 E VS1 HCA 1 8.97 mm

This is still available

3.18 F VS2 HCA 1.3 9.43mm this one appears to have cloudy areas. @Kim N do you think that would be visible with the human eye ? Also, the 3.27 you posted is unfortunately unavailable.

are there any other contenders I should pull in for comparison? The 3.27 is no longer available. I can purchase 3 and compare them side by side in person.
 

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Ok all, thank you for the support and hearing me out. I have decided to return the diamond and contacted CO for a return authorization. I dm'd Alex from parksantiquelab on IG and showed him the stone and he agreed it was a lower quality gray stone (although cut well). :(

@DejaWiz Ritani was able to hold this:

2.71 E VS1 HCA 1 8.97 mm

This is still available

3.18 F VS2 HCA 1.3 9.43mm this one appears to have cloudy areas. @Kim N do you think that would be visible with the human eye ? Also, the 3.27 you posted is unfortunately unavailable.

are there any other contenders I should pull in for comparison? The 3.27 is no longer available. I can purchase 3 and compare them side by side in person.

I'm so glad Ritani was able to put the 2.71 E on hold for you. I still think that one is the winner.

I ran a new search and came up with these.





Also take a look at these again to see how you feel about the inclusions compared to the 3.18. I don't think any of the inclusions would be visible to the unaided eye, but I totally understand wanting it to be mind-clean.


 

Musa15

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I'm so glad Ritani was able to put the 2.71 E on hold for you. I still think that one is the winner.

I ran a new search and came up with these.





Also take a look at these again to see how you feel about the inclusions compared to the 3.18. I don't think any of the inclusions would be visible to the unaided eye, but I totally understand wanting it to be mind-clean.



@Kim N , you've given me so many options!

3.01 G VS1 looks lovely

2.81 F VS2 looks nice too and you know how I like the h&a comments :) - although the gray streaks in the diamond look a bit concerning.

do you have the HCA score for these two? do the proportions look good to you?
 

Kim N

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@Kim N , you've given me so many options!

3.01 G VS1 looks lovely

2.81 F VS2 looks nice too and you know how I like the h&a comments :) - although the gray streaks in the diamond look a bit concerning.

do you have the HCA score for these two? do the proportions look good to you?

They have very similar proportions, although the HCA likes the 3.01 a little more.

HCA-3.01.jpg

HCA-2.81.jpg
 

Musa15

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They have very similar proportions, although the HCA likes the 3.01 a little more.

HCA-3.01.jpg

HCA-2.81.jpg

Thank you! are 1.5 and 1.9 good scores? I believe my two diamonds (in ring and necklace) are both 1-1.2 in range.
 

Kim N

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Thank you! are 1.5 and 1.9 good scores? I believe my two diamonds (in ring and necklace) are both 1-1.2 in range.

Yes, anything under 2 (and sometimes 2.5) is worth further consideration. IMO the 2.71 E has the "safest" proportions.
 

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Is that hpht with faint blue?
 

Kim N

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Is that hpht with faint blue?

Which diamond are you referring to? None of the ones in this thread are HPHT with blue nuance.
 

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Like others, suggest that you return as soon as you can, and depending on the grading lab, seems like you need a G or F (for loosely graded stones) to see less of the color.
 

Musa15

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Hi all,

First, thank you for your support and helping me validate the concerns with the gray stone. I have asked CO for a return authorization and will be sending the stone back asap.

I asked my partner and family and they all told me to be happy with what I have haha, they're trying to be supportive in their own way but don't really understand like this group does.

@Kim N and @DejaWiz I ended up going with these 3 for comparison:




Will be posting here as a follow-up to this saga. :)
 

Kim N

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Hi all,

First, thank you for your support and helping me validate the concerns with the gray stone. I have asked CO for a return authorization and will be sending the stone back asap.

I asked my partner and family and they all told me to be happy with what I have haha, they're trying to be supportive in their own way but don't really understand like this group does.

@Kim N and @DejaWiz I ended up going with these 3 for comparison:




Will be posting here as a follow-up to this saga. :)

Sounds good! How long will it take to receive the new stones?
 
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