Buying Moissanite from Tianyu Gems

[tonielle]

There's too much metal showing and the melee is too big. There are also gaps where the melee meets the metal in the corners. That could have been prevented with smaller melee and better polishing.

I think this too. I even considered not getting an invisible halo and removing the front+back profile basket bars like this:



And she told me it’s the same price without the halo... lol

 

[chunkyfacetlover]

And she told me it’s the same price without the halo... lol

That's strange! Maybe it was a language/communication issue? The ring will still cost over a thousand less than the original so I guess it's not a big deal.

 

[swaye2010]

You’re right, it is the different proportions throwing me off! I just put their 2 photos side by side and can see the difference. I also just threw in another Tianyu ring with an under halo styling that I prefer much more than the first one I found

Thank goodness I have everyone here to help when my CAD comes in!

They don’t seem to have their pricing strategy straight sometimes so you will get answers like that. The small pave moissanite price is so low that it might just be insignificant. The real cost is the gold, CAD work and production. I like the softer ‘U’ from the Moco ring on the head and don’t go too thin on the shank or they seem to make it pancake thin and it looks like the pave is sitting on top instead of being recessed into the shank. I would try to work it out the details/measurements the best you can before you start the process or they may charge for CAD changes. I am not sure what size stone you are going for but your Moco example had a 2.5 carat equivalent.

With pave, I think it is better not to go under 2mm. Some people like to get rid of the bar but it does give the ring some stability and there is less chance of the head being knocked straight off the shank if it is hit hard enough. This is personal choice though and there are examples of both on both of the Chinese moissanite threads.

 

[Chanterelle]

I just got my first ring from Tianyu yesterday and the ring itself is beautiful, although slightly too big.

However, I paid for VVS rose cut 3.5mm moissanites. I see what looks like little bubbles in two of them. In one of them, it's so bad that I can see it with just my eyes in sunlight. It looks like a cloud of little speckles.

Would you raise this as an issue? Or do you think this is to be expected with rose cut moissanites?

 

[dkata]

I just got my first ring from Tianyu yesterday and the ring itself is beautiful, although slightly too big.

However, I paid for VVS rose cut 3.5mm moissanites. I see what looks like little bubbles in two of them. In one of them, it's so bad that I can see it with just my eyes in sunlight. It looks like a cloud of little speckles.

Would you raise this as an issue? Or do you think this is to be expected with rose cut moissanites?

I don’t have a lot of moissanite, but I think this should not be. I would definitely contact them at first, and ask for their point of view.

 

[Chanterelle]

I don’t have a lot of moissanite, but I think this should not be. I would definitely contact them at first, and ask for their point of view.

Thank you! Yes I think I will - because now I can see the inclusions on the two stones indoors too. And that is definitely not VVS.

Also the ring being too big does bother me. I stressed a few times that I needed it to be a certain size but it came out a little bigger and they told me it was because of stone placement. I decided to go with the explanation. But it's loose and I really hate rings being loose on my fingers.

I will contact them and see - working with Tianyu has been great so far, and I hope it continues to be!

 

[Lucky_Rabbit]

I just got my first ring from Tianyu yesterday and the ring itself is beautiful, although slightly too big.

However, I paid for VVS rose cut 3.5mm moissanites. I see what looks like little bubbles in two of them. In one of them, it's so bad that I can see it with just my eyes in sunlight. It looks like a cloud of little speckles.

Would you raise this as an issue? Or do you think this is to be expected with rose cut moissanites?

Could we see pics of what you're talking about? And I'd definitely speak to them about your issues.

 

[mrsgreeneyes]

Did you decided to sell your OEC that was made by DK or you kept that one?

I will be listing it, I just haven't done it yet.

And your new solitaire is GORGEOUS!

 

[Morenita21]

So my ring arrived earlier today - just in time for Christmas. Sorry no sunlight so indoor light will have to do. The stones are really white so I’m glad about that.

Here are some pictures:

What do you all think?

 

[Sirenagirl]

So my ring arrived earlier today - just in time for Christmas. Sorry no sunlight so indoor light will have to do. The stones are really white so I’m glad about that.

Here are some pictures:

What do you all think?

WOW!! **mouth drops open**
The dimensions look good too. It's blingalicious.

 

[mrsgreeneyes]

So my ring arrived earlier today - just in time for Christmas. Sorry no sunlight so indoor light will have to do. The stones are really white so I’m glad about that.

Here are some pictures:

What do you all think?

Personally I love it and think it’s jaw dropping!

 

[Pennyc]

I did six stones for full finger coverage, but here is mine.

@mrsgreeneyes I am currently tossing up whether to put my ring budget towards something like this or a largish solitaire. There isn’t a huge amount of difference in price but I was thinking perhaps I would wear this more often. Can I ask does it have lots of sparkle? Did Tianyu ever do a video of it? Also are you happy with it? I assume it’s too big to stack with another ring?

 

[mrsgreeneyes]

@mrsgreeneyes I am currently tossing up whether to put my ring budget towards something like this or a largish solitaire. There isn’t a huge amount of difference in price but I was thinking perhaps I would wear this more often. Can I ask does it have lots of sparkle? Did Tianyu ever do a video of it? Also are you happy with it? I assume it’s too big to stack with another ring?

Yes, it has a ton of sparkle! Here is an album with a stack pic and a video: https://imgur.com/a/2haBlJM

 

[chunkyfacetlover]

Here's a couple of really bad shots with my cell phone. The last one showing some blue from the TV. Excuse my horrible hands. Lol

It took forever to work myself down to your ring (long thread), it's so gorgeous! Are those baby claw prongs on the eternity band?

 

[Pennyc]

Thanks @mrsgreeneyes it is gorgeous I am worried it may dwarf my e-ring which is a 1.2ct pear diamond but I love it

 

[Chanterelle]

Could we see pics of what you're talking about? And I'd definitely speak to them about your issues.

Here is the best I could do with my camera phone. It's actually 3 stones and I think it's fairly obvious.

I contacted Tianyu and their response was, they check every gem with 10x magnifying glass and they sent me the best of the lot. They advised me to the clean the bottom of the stone and not the table - but I told them that I ran this ring through an ultrasonic cleaner 3 times and I still see the issues.

What do you think? Is this an issue with the ring or the cleaning? If so, how can I clean it better?

With the ultrasonic, I ran it on 5 minutes each time and I also use some Dawn dish washing liquid.

I'm off to clean it for a fourth time ...

 

[eapj]

This yellow gold beauty will be mailed tomorrow. I’d purchased an elongated cushion in YG and thought it was what I’d always wanted but it turns out that I like decent sized cushions on others, not on me. This is 6.5 mm so a very wearable daily ring. I also have a 7.5 mm in platinum in this same style and I adore it and wear it often - I don’t even know I’m wearing it. I got a smaller stone in this one for a bit of a change. I am so happy that I’ll have sets in white metal and yellow metal for when the mood strikes. And when skin allergies act up, I’ll retire the yellow but my contact allergies are intermittent so I’ll still get lots of wear out of the YG.

My poor original rings get no love now!

 

[eapj]

Here is the best I could do with my camera phone. It's actually 3 stones and I think it's fairly obvious.

I contacted Tianyu and their response was, they check every gem with 10x magnifying glass and they sent me the best of the lot. They advised me to the clean the bottom of the stone and not the table - but I told them that I ran this ring through an ultrasonic cleaner 3 times and I still see the issues.

What do you think? Is this an issue with the ring or the cleaning? If so, how can I clean it better?

With the ultrasonic, I ran it on 5 minutes each time and I also use some Dawn dish washing liquid.

I'm off to clean it for a fourth time ...

I am not an expert but I wonder what would be so stubborn after so much cleaning? Hopefully an expert will chin in with an idea of if it’s dirt or inclusions. I’m sorry you’re going through this with your new ring!

 

[BossMan]

So I'm getting engaged and me and my GF went ring shopping and all she ever showed me where Halo rings . But it was a crazy price like 3k for a 0.75 diamond ring . Which knew was bokers. I don't mind paying that money for a ring but I knew it was a con from the start .. but so is the diamond industry.

Found out Tianyu then had the discussion about Moissanite the only reason my GF said she wanted a Diamond is because they sparkle and nothing else .. so it was an easy switch the moment I said they sparkle better and produce a rainbow effect .

So I've been working with Emma and below is the CAD. I hope she likes it because it's basically what we have been looking at. I just hope the 7mm stone is not to big. The ring should arrive in the next 2 weeks.

 

[crc]

Hey everyone, I'm looking for advice for a layperson since this will be a new experience for me. My husband and I eloped last summer, and I realized I was sad about never getting an engagement ring. So, with his blessing, I'm just going to get myself one.

I'm hoping for a basket/gallery similar to the Tacori Dantela 2620, with some filagree from the Verragio Insignia collection. Is this too complex an ask? I understand others have been dissatisfied by their milgrain...

I did speak with Ella, referred through the alibaba app, and she quoted me an alluring price, and said they would be able to handle it.

 

[bbk0885]

Anyone have any experience with Tianyu's OECs vs the Moissanite Co brand OEC? I ordered a 7mm OEC from Moissanite Co, and I like it, but I just got a quote for the same stone from Tianyu, and of course it is far less expensive. Not sure if I could get the Tianyu stone here to compare them inside Moissanite Co's return window, so thought I'd put out the feelers to see if anyone has thoughts or experience.

 

[swaye2010]

Hey everyone, I'm looking for advice for a layperson since this will be a new experience for me. My husband and I eloped last summer, and I realized I was sad about never getting an engagement ring. So, with his blessing, I'm just going to get myself one.

I'm hoping for a basket/gallery similar to the Tacori Dantela 2620, with some filagree from the Verragio Insignia collection. Is this too complex an ask? I understand others have been dissatisfied by their milgrain...

I did speak with Ella, referred through the alibaba app, and she quoted me an alluring price, and said they would be able to handle it.

Can you post some pictures of the settings so we can see exactly what you are asking for. Their miligrain is machine stamped and not quite as fine as hand beaded miligrain. You can always get a ring made and have the milgrain applied after the fact by David Klass if you were wanting to do something with more precision. I don’t think he charges very much for it. Maybe a couple hundred but that is still a lot less than getting the whole ring made over here. Also what kind of center stone are you looking at?

 

[swaye2010]

Anyone have any experience with Tianyu's OECs vs the Moissanite Co brand OEC? I ordered a 7mm OEC from Moissanite Co, and I like it, but I just got a quote for the same stone from Tianyu, and of course it is far less expensive. Not sure if I could get the Tianyu stone here to compare them inside Moissanite Co's return window, so thought I'd put out the feelers to see if anyone has thoughts or experience.

There are a few people that have had round brilliant’s to compare but I don’t remember if anyone has had an OEC to compare between Moco and Tianyu. Just between Starsgem and Tianyu and they are cut slightly different. I had an OEC cut through Tianyu and it was beautifully cut but I haven’t seen the Moco one in person to compare it directly to. This was a 10 mm OEC in G/H color that was in a tulip setting with pave. The Tianyu one did not have the grey center when looking straight on like some cuts but you could see it when the stone was tipped slightly.


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[crc]

Can you post some pictures of the settings so we can see exactly what you are asking for. Their miligrain is machine stamped and not quite as fine as hand beaded miligrain. You can always get a ring made and have the milgrain applied after the fact by David Klass if you were wanting to do something with more precision. I don’t think he charges very much for it. Maybe a couple hundred but that is still a lot less than getting the whole ring made over here. Also what kind of center stone are you looking at?

I tried to communicate the details as clearly as possible with arrows, but basically I want the halo part from the top ring and the double band of the second ring.

I'd like it to be set with one of their elongated ACCs, but I don't know the exact right dimensions or any vocabulary associated with it. All moissanite stones, and 18k rose gold.

 

[swaye2010]

I tried to communicate the details as clearly as possible with arrows, but basically I want the halo part from the top ring and the double band of the second ring.

I'd like it to be set with one of their elongated ACCs, but I don't know the exact right dimensions or any vocabulary associated with it. All moissanite stones, and 18k rose gold.

I am curious if the last picture was something they have already done before? I have seen one or two cushion’s so far but not any of the brilliant elongated cushion’s by them yet. Just the antique elongated cushion’s. They do cut the brilliant’s very well though. Your Verragio example has a lot of fine detail to it. There are limits sometimes to how much of this fine detail they can do since it is machine stamped. I have rings with hand beaded fine miligrain and a ring set from them and it is definitely not as refined with marchine stamping. They won’t have a problem doing a delicate halo but they might have some issues with executing that shank. Having this much detail can be a gamble but you have to weigh the cost against what it would cost to do it in US prices and see if that would be acceptable to you. Since you are combining images with lots of notes, there is a chance they may get this wrong and need to make corrections. You might need to confirm with Ella about this in case they make a mistake. Sometimes they have come back and asked for $40 if they have to produce a new CAD, even if it was just a misunderstanding because they have to pay for that person’s time again. This can be a frustrating part of the process with a complicated ring design. There just are limitations to what they can actually do. You might also consider buying the stone loose to save some money and get a ring design made here if the overall look is very important to you.

 

[bbk0885]

Thank you! Your ring is absolutely gorgeous. I would be extremely happy if I got that stone from Tianyu. I'm also going for G/H--glad to see it looking so white in your video. Did you ask for anything else specific when having that stone cut, or just the size and color you wanted?

There are a few people that have had round brilliant’s to compare but I don’t remember if anyone has had an OEC to compare between Moco and Tianyu. Just between Starsgem and Tianyu and they are cut slightly different. I had an OEC cut through Tianyu and it was beautifully cut but I haven’t seen the Moco one in person to compare it directly to. This was a 10 mm OEC in G/H color that was in a tulip setting with pave. The Tianyu one did not have the grey center when looking straight on like some cuts but you could see it when the stone was tipped slightly.


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[anangel]

I tried to communicate the details as clearly as possible with arrows, but basically I want the halo part from the top ring and the double band of the second ring.

I'd like it to be set with one of their elongated ACCs, but I don't know the exact right dimensions or any vocabulary associated with it. All moissanite stones, and 18k rose gold.

Please don’t think I’m being a Debbie downer here, but they can’t do Tacori level detail, especially on the miligrain.
In fact, when I saw your post, I pulled out my own Tacori ring and Tianyu ring and look pics just so you could see the level of detail you’re asking for vs what they can do. This Tianyu ring was made after asking for the finest miligrain they could do.
I really hope this helps because I want you to get something you love and I’m not sure if they’ll be able to pull off what you’re asking for



Edited to add more pics. Sorry about the formatting- using my phone.

 

[Sirenagirl]

I tried to communicate the details as clearly as possible with arrows, but basically I want the halo part from the top ring and the double band of the second ring.

I'd like it to be set with one of their elongated ACCs, but I don't know the exact right dimensions or any vocabulary associated with it. All moissanite stones, and 18k rose gold.

I've been following this thread but haven't ordered from them. I know others will weigh in. I think you have to be willing to risk the chance that your design may not be executed to your exact specifications. Your design does look more complex than others I've seen them do.

 

[crc]

I am curious if the last picture was something they have already done before?

No, all taken from google images.

I have seen one or two cushion’s so far but not any of the brilliant elongated cushion’s by them yet. Just the antique elongated cushion’s. They do cut the brilliant’s very well though.

The Antique cut is what I'm after, not the brilliant.

Your Verragio example has a lot of fine detail to it. There are limits sometimes to how much of this fine detail they can do since it is machine stamped. I have rings with hand beaded fine miligrain and a ring set from them and it is definitely not as refined with marchine stamping. They won’t have a problem doing a delicate halo but they might have some issues with executing that shank. Having this much detail can be a gamble... There just are limitations to what they can actually do. You might also consider buying the stone loose to save some money and get a ring design made here if the overall look is very important to you.

I'm not an expert jeweler and I really doubt I'll be able to see minor imperfections. It doesn't have to be perfect but I want to capture that lacy antique-y feeling from both examples. Would this basket be more realistic to accomplish?

 

[crc]

I've been following this thread but haven't ordered from them. I know others will weigh in. I think you have to be willing to risk the chance that your design may not be executed to your exact specifications. Your design does look more complex than others I've seen them do.

Thanks so much for doing this comparison for me!

I would not be terribly disappointed if the milgrain is imperfect, but I wonder if I should consider leaving it off entirely and asking a local jeweler to add milgrain here in the US? Is that the only limitation you see, or is the entire structure I'm proposing just too complex?

edited to add: I would be fine with the level of detail on either ring you posted.