Transitional cut diamond?

[lulu_ma]

Its nice though! Any hints on where I can find it?

I can’t access LT from my phone. I’ll send you the info tomorrow from my desktop!

 

[lovedogs]

I can’t access LT from my phone. I’ll send you the info tomorrow from my desktop!

Thanks!

 

[Dreamer_D]

I know you have your own wish list and criteria, but in case it helps or anyone watching is curious, that expensive eBay stone will not look pretty in real life. I agree in that one photo the pattern looks nice, but I want to point out a couple images that show the negative effect of the way-too flat crown.

See how the center is bright in this image but the periphery of the diamond is dark? You will only get brightness and light return from those central facets. The entire surround that is duller and grey will just be dull and grey in real life in most lighting.



This picture shows how it will likely look in most viewing. Just flat and grey with very little sparkle.





Even in shitty eBay pictures for a nicely cut transitional you should see edge to edge brightness in a distance shot and in close ups too!

Hope this helps. It was way overpriced too lol

 

[lovedogs]

I know you have your own wish list and criteria, but in case it helps or anyone watching is curious, that expensive eBay stone will not look pretty in real life. I agree in that one photo the pattern looks nice, but I want to point out a couple images that show the negative effect of the way-too flat crown.

See how the center is bright in this image but the periphery of the diamond is dark? You will only get brightness and light return from those central facets. The entire surround that is duller and grey will just be dull and grey in real life in most lighting.



This picture shows how it will likely look in most viewing. Just flat and grey with very little sparkle.





Even in shitty eBay pictures for a nicely cut transitional you should see edge to edge brightness in a distance shot and in close ups too!

Hope this helps. It was way overpriced too lol

Appreciate this insight!!!!

 

[Scon_ce]

@Dreamer_D good info!
I am just beginning my education on/search for an old cut, not sure yet which kind, but thanks to @lovedogs for starting this thread I am more informed and luckily have not made any impulsive nonreturnable purchases

 

[lovedogs]

More eye candy

 

[YadaYadaYada]

The last one is gorgeous!

 

[Dreamer_D]

More eye candy

Yes these are more promising! Stone 3 still has more darkness under the table than I like for that make, can make it over dark. Stone 1 I actually like a lot and would like more images. Stone 2 has nice colors but can’t say much more. A more distant photo will help you evaluate all three so you can see if the brightness is edge to edge. Also a side shot showing crown height and table size. They all look photoshopped, unfortunately, which is really common for these types of vendors. Makes it harder to judge because they have messed with the bright/dark. A video can really help if the vendor is willing to take one.

 

[lovedogs]

Listing for 1

Old European Cut Diamond Solitaire Engagement Ring 0.67 ct 14k Yellow Gold | eBay

The ring is stamped "14K". 14k Yellow Gold. Center Diamond. Diamond Cut. Diamond Weight. Diamond Color. Diamond Clarity. ~The ring can be seen in person at Exquisite Jewelers in Palatine, IL 8 47 202 7889~.

www.ebay.com

Listing for 2:

12-25-45 ANTIQUE NATURAL VS OLD EUROPEAN DIAMOND ART DECO FLORAL ENGAGEMENT RING | eBay

SPARKLE, SPARKLE, SPARKLE! THE DIAMOND IN THIS RING HAS BEEN DIAMOND TESTED BY OUR JEWELER TO BE A GENUINE NATURAL DIAMOND. OLD DATE ENGRAVED INSIDE OF RING BAND 12-25-45 AND INITIALS ENGRAVED INSIDE OF RING BAND AS SHOWN IN MY PICTURE.

www.ebay.com

Listing for 3

ANTIQUE 14K WHITE GOLD OLD EUROPEAN DIAMOND COCTAIL ENGAGEMENT RING VINTAGE | eBay

14K WHITE GOLD MARQUISE AND PEAR CUT DIAMOND BEZEL LARIAT NECKLACE. Side stones: Approx. 0.50 ctw Single cut Diamonds FG VS1-SI3. Pre-Owned (Great condition). Jewelries have been magnified for detail.

www.ebay.com

 

[lulu_ma]

Haha @lovedogs you have already have it!

 

[lovedogs]

Haha @lovedogs you have already have it!

Lollll I'm an idiot for not realizing hahaha

 

[YadaYadaYada]

Hmmm, after seeing the video, less impressed with 3. The first one is looking like a winner, E color! I also like the second but wonder if it will be too small for you. I am biased towards a transitional in yellow gold though.

 

[YadaYadaYada]

The setting may be too much for you but posting this in case you haven’t seen it:

Transition Diamond Engagement Ring 0.67 Ct Vintage 14k White Gold Egl - Etsy

This Wedding & Engagement item is sold by ExquisiteJewelersInc. Ships from Palatine, IL. Listed on Mar 18, 2024

www.etsy.com

 

[lovedogs]

The setting may be too much for you but posting this in case you haven’t seen it:

Transition Diamond Engagement Ring 0.67 Ct Vintage 14k White Gold Egl - Etsy

This Wedding & Engagement item is sold by ExquisiteJewelersInc. Ships from Palatine, IL. Listed on Mar 18, 2024

www.etsy.com

lol I hate that setting but dont' mind removing a stone from a setting. I just can't really see the faceting I might ask for a video from them though!

 

[YadaYadaYada]

lol I hate that setting but dont' mind removing a stone from a setting. I just can't really see the faceting I might ask for a video from them though!

Yeah, I get it totally, maybe worth asking if it looks promising to you. Also check out Treanor House on IG and Etsy, very pretty rings and maybe you will find the facet pattern you’re looking for.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Number one has the best cut by far! It is technically a transitional bc the proportions are so close to an MRB but I actually think the faceting looks more like an OEC. Certainly when worn it will feel more OEC like. Not sure it’s what you are after but I’m guessing a lucky lurker will snap it up. I think the price is not bad given the color and lab report. Look at this edge to edge brightness!





Number two is very small. I have a couple 4mm diamonds and you can’t see faceting at all. I think if you want to appreciate the faceting you need at least 5mm and ideally over 6mm. Besides that these pictures are red flags for me. See how dark the center is? Terrible.



Number 3 has promise. For me it’s still too much dark in the center. But the patterning is pretty well distributed across the face of the diamond. It looks nice across lighting. I don’t like to buy bezelled stones bc who knows what’s under there. And the setting is probably a good amount of the price they are asking. Not good value to buy just for the stone as there likely isn’t much market for resale of the mount. I still think you can find a better cut than this one, and better value.

 

[Dreamer_D]

The setting may be too much for you but posting this in case you haven’t seen it:

Transition Diamond Engagement Ring 0.67 Ct Vintage 14k White Gold Egl - Etsy

This Wedding & Engagement item is sold by ExquisiteJewelersInc. Ships from Palatine, IL. Listed on Mar 18, 2024

www.etsy.com

This feels like an American cut to me, like my diamond. Fat arrows rather than quilt pattern. The cut is decent, but in this photo you can see that it has some leakage. The crown is too shallow and the table a bit too large for this make. I find this kind of angled photo really good for assessing leakage. You would see the impact of this mushy faceting in other situations too, not just at this angle. It’s just how I like to assess it when looking at photos like this. I also prefer super precision with this kind of make so the arrows are really clear, as that’s kind of what this style of transitional is known for. In person this diamond will just look like a modern round for the most part, and a modestly cut one at that, so it probably won’t feel different enough to satisfy you.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Can you remind me of your budget and desired specs? I hunt ebay daily because I'm looking for something, and I can keep my eye out for you. I haven't been saving transitionals up to now bc I already have one and I'm looking for early OECs right now.

 

[lovedogs]

Can you remind me of your budget and desired specs? I hunt ebay daily because I'm looking for something, and I can keep my eye out for you. I haven't been saving transitionals up to now bc I already have one and I'm looking for early OECs right now.

Thanks! Hoping for at least 6mm, 2k is my budget for the stone (obviously could be more if there's a mount). Blue fluor would be a bonus

 

[Dreamer_D]

You set on the quilty pattern or open to a more American cut like mine?

 

[lovedogs]

You set on the quilty pattern or open to a more American cut like mine?

Hmm, do you have pics of yours?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Hmm, do you have pics of yours?

What you mean you haven’t memorized my diamond?? It’s PS FAMOUS

Early American cut circa 1920s.

 

[Mreader]

What you mean you haven’t memorized my diamond?? It’s PS FAMOUS

Early American cut circa 1920s.

George!!

 

[lovedogs]

What you mean you haven’t memorized my diamond?? It’s PS FAMOUS

Early American cut circa 1920s.

God it's gorgeous. Sadly I'm obsessed with the quilt pattern because I've coveted it for soooo long

 

[Dreamer_D]

I will be on the lookout!!

 

[lovedogs]

I think this one from ivy and rose is promising. I asked them for a video. My concern is that it might be too small to appreciate the faceting.

1/2ct OLD CUT DIAMOND CERTIFIED E VS2 VINTAGE TRANSITIONAL LOOSE NATURAL 0.53ct | eBay

Proportions are similar to a round but it has all the charm of a hand cut stone with a small open culet and flower petal faceting. clarity VS2. - Excellent VS2 clarity. Item type Loose Diamond. Gemstone Diamond (EGL Certified).

www.ebay.com

 

[YadaYadaYada]

@lovedogs FWIW mine is smaller than this and I can see the faceting pretty well.

 

[lala646]

I think this one from ivy and rose is promising. I asked them for a video. My concern is that it might be too small to appreciate the faceting.

1/2ct OLD CUT DIAMOND CERTIFIED E VS2 VINTAGE TRANSITIONAL LOOSE NATURAL 0.53ct | eBay

Proportions are similar to a round but it has all the charm of a hand cut stone with a small open culet and flower petal faceting. clarity VS2. - Excellent VS2 clarity. Item type Loose Diamond. Gemstone Diamond (EGL Certified).

www.ebay.com

Just remember, you save a little going through their website:

1/2ct OLD CUT DIAMOND CERTIFIED E VS2 VINTAGE TRANSITIONAL LOOSE NATURAL 0.53ct

Highlights:- 0.53 carat size- Original vintage diamond- EGL-USA certified- Beautiful transitional cut. Proportions are similar to a round but it has all the charm of a hand cut stone with a small open culet and flower petal faceting.- Bright white with E color- Excellent VS2 clarityAdditional...

ivyandrose.com

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

Have we seen this one already? Don't know if it's to taste, but another option I just in case that I came across.

.54 ct Carat Round Brilliant Cut GIA Dossier H / VS2 Loose Natural Diamond B4501 | eBay

GIA Dossier Certified. 54 Carat Round Brilliant Cut Loose Natural Diamond. Clarity : VS2. GIA Certification Date : April 18, 2022. Polish : Good. Nice balance of color and clarity! Cut : Good. Total Depth : 63.7%.

www.ebay.com

 

[YadaYadaYada]

Oh that’s a beauty @ItsMainelyYou!