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5.7 x 5.9, faint fluoro, $1300.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-cut-sku-18741868?uniqueID=77sucnyur_19183060

5.3 x 5.4, no fluoro, it must be a better cut because it is smaller yet 150% the price of the other (even with the bump in color, it seems pricier than JA’s other 0.60s). $2010.


I really like the first one!!!
 

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5.7 x 5.9, faint fluoro, $1300.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-cut-sku-18741868?uniqueID=77sucnyur_19183060

5.3 x 5.4, no fluoro, it must be a better cut because it is smaller yet 150% the price of the other (even with the bump in color, it seems pricier than JA’s other 0.60s). $2010.


I've saved both of those too!
 
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5.7 x 5.9, faint fluoro, $1300.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-cut-sku-18741868?uniqueID=77sucnyur_19183060

5.3 x 5.4, no fluoro, it must be a better cut because it is smaller yet 150% the price of the other (even with the bump in color, it seems pricier than JA’s other 0.60s). $2010.


That .73 is probably the best one that been posted in this thread so far! See how the lower halves are only 60% ? But the other proportions are close to an MRB? I think that will get you the look you are after!
 

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That .73 is probably the best one that been posted in this thread so far! See how the lower halves are only 60% ? But the other proportions are close to an MRB? I think that will get you the look you are after!

I appreciate DreamerD’s technical analysis. I see potential in this diamond too (I’m seeing blocky faceting as the stone spins that I think looks really pretty).
 

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I appreciate DreamerD’s technical analysis. I see potential in this diamond too (I’m seeing blocky faceting as the stone spins that I think looks really pretty).

Agreed and if I wasn’t clear I also thought visually it was very appealing too! The eyes always matter most with old cuts as we all know, I just thought it was interesting when I looked that it had the short lower halves I suspected were important for this type of cut.
 

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I lke this! The inclusion looks like a peacock. Is it JA lighting that gives it a brown cast?

A lot of greys have a brown undertone. I still think this one is cool and if I were not saving up for other projects…
 

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Agreed and if I wasn’t clear I also thought visually it was very appealing too! The eyes always matter most with old cuts as we all know, I just thought it was interesting when I looked that it had the short lower halves I suspected were important for this type of cut.

It isn’t poofy but the transitionals are not going to be as poofy as the OECs. Even though it won’t be poofy, it won’t be flat. And the size is quite nice.
 

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This isn't a quilty type of transitional, but I like the cut a lot. Later style, bordering on MRB, but still has nice transitional proportions like shorter lower halves, high crown, very small table. Likely an American Cut (like mine). And its huge at 1ct.

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This one has a more quilty pattern, though I still think its a little more American Cut than you might be after. Still, a beautiful make. Price is high but it is E color which is super super rare. I think this one would be very bright and sparkly, the cut is great.

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If you want to increase your budget seven fold (:lol-2:), this one is such a perfect transitional. The photos are not awesome bc they are all in that shadowless light box environment but I feel pretty sure this is a gorgeous quilty type! And this mounting is to die for. Reproducing it would likely cost $8k all on its own. Anyway maybe someone else will buy it since we can't!

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If you want to increase your budget seven fold (:lol-2:), this one is such a perfect transitional. The photos are not awesome bc they are all in that shadowless light box environment but I feel pretty sure this is a gorgeous quilty type! And this mounting is to die for. Reproducing it would likely cost $8k all on its own. Anyway maybe someone else will buy it since we can't!

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Omg I wish!!

This one has a more quilty pattern, though I still think its a little more American Cut than you might be after. Still, a beautiful make. Price is high but it is E color which is super super rare. I think this one would be very bright and sparkly, the cut is great.

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I love this one, I've had it saved for a while. But I'm afraid it'll be less quilty and more of the American cut (as you said)
 

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Omg I wish!!



I love this one, I've had it saved for a while. But I'm afraid it'll be less quilty and more of the American cut (as you said)

I think the symmetry of the cut isn’t so perfect and so it might have the chaotic look you are after. Like that image I pasted is looking face on the stone and in that position with my stone you see very clear and distinct arrows like an MRB. You don’t see that with this one.
 

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Ok friends, I'm back with other options.


1. Been posted before, my concern is that it might be too much like a normal OEC vs the quilt pattern. Screenshot_20240403_132708_eBay.jpg


2. Pics aren't great but seller takes returns.

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3. Again it might be too much like an OEC
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4. Pics are all out of focus but I feel like it has potential. Screenshot_20240403_134744_eBay.jpg

5. Might be too small (between .4 and .5ct) Screenshot_20240403_134614_eBay.jpg

6. Pics from a video but the quilt pattern looks promising Screenshot_20240403_132415_eBay.jpg

7. Pattern might be too chaotic and the top is flat Screenshot_20240403_135240_eBay.jpg
 

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I like this one of those:

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Yup, same. That's my favorite I think, although the pics aren't great. 2, 5, and 6 are the ones I like most right now
 

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I've lost track of your numbering system. Is 2 the 6 of 7?
 

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Number, #5! I would also like to see more of #3, actually.
 

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I like this one of those:

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I think I saw this one on eBay and it looks far too dark for my liking in the other pictures.
 

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I’d like to see video of 1 and 3. I think 3 could be really great.
 

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Before I read any other replies my choices: 3, 5, and 6. How big is 3?

I think it’s tough to get a specific pattern by buying online, not impossible but definitely challenging. Have you done any antique/pawn shopping? I honestly don’t know if I would have picked my transitional out from a picture but in person it was a definite winner even caked in gunk.
 

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Before I read any other replies my choices: 3, 5, and 6. How big is 3?

I think it’s tough to get a specific pattern by buying online, not impossible but definitely challenging. Have you done any antique/pawn shopping? I honestly don’t know if I would have picked my transitional out from a picture but in person it was a definite winner even caked in gunk.

3 is pretty big. 1.05 according to the listing. @Dreamer_D the vendor wont take videos unfortunately
 

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These all show significant darkness under the table that I think will disappoint in person.

I wish I could link the video to the wedding set. It definitely isn't dark under the table based on that. My bigger concern is about the size of the stone and if the faceting will be visible
 

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I wish I could link the video to the wedding set. It definitely isn't dark under the table based on that. My bigger concern is about the size of the stone and if the faceting will be visible

Well that’s good. I think you can just start seeing faceting around 5mm when you look closely, though differentiating between a OEC and a transitional in this size would be questionable in my experience. You can’t truly appreciate faceting until about 6 to 7. It is a very very sad thing for the pocketbook!
 

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@Dreamer_D @YadaYadaYada do you think this will be too much like an OEC?

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Love the make on this. It’s very interesting! Someone else had a stone like that back in the day. It won’t be quilty but it doesn’t look like a floral OEC to my eyes. It won’t look like a modern round either, given that tiny table and high crown. I bet it will be a real performer (which for me trumps everything else). I worry a little about the ring of lighter facets just inside the table perimeter, maybe leakage from angles that aren’t quite complimentary. Would need to see more photos to know.
 
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