This diamond a good value? 1.20 carat stone...

[FrankoW]

Hi all,

I've been doing some ring shopping and have narrowed down my selection to one particular diamond:

1.20 carat, G, SI2 with an ideal (H&A) cut, VG polish, VG symmetry and no fluorescence for ~$6300. Comparing the price to BlueNile it seems like a pretty good price, but the only thing holding me back is a white, wispy imperfection that streaks across a small corner of the diamond.

I'm no expert, but perhaps the more seasoned members of this board could weigh in? Is it common for most SI2s to have some visible imperfections?

Thanks in advance for the help!

Frank

 

[Gypsy]

What lab graded it? If it is GIA or AGS proceed to next question. If it is not. Then no, it's not a good value.
If GIA: what are the stats?
If GIA: run the numbers through this: https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca 2.0 and under is a pass without an idealscope image (although it would be best to have one), under 3.0 with an idealscope image.
If it is AGS, what was the cut grade assigned to it? O or 1 are the only ones worth your time.


Also yes, SI2 will have imperfections, and most of the time they will be visible to the naked eye. But not always and twinning wisps have a good chance of still being eyeclean. And I personally wouldn't buy a VG cut grade diamond without an idealscope image. And I wouldn't buy an SI2 without images.

 

[FrankoW]

Thanks for the reply. It's graded by the European Gemological institute, so the European equivalent of the GIA I guess. The only measurements I have for it are 6.95 - 6.92 X 4.04mm.

I've looked at the diamond in person and it's fairly eye clean, but a couple seconds of closer inspection would reveal the white streaks. It seems like a good deal pricewise, but I'm just torn on the SI2 flaws.

 

[smilligan]

The European equivalent of GIA is just GIA. It's worldwide. I've never heard of EGI. Do you mean EGL or IGI, perhaps? It's hard to say whether or not you are getting a good deal with a certification from a lab other than GIA/AGS. This is because their grading tends to be more lax and inconsistent. That isn't to say that ALL of it is inconsistent, but the odds aren't in your favor. Are you comparing the diamond to GIA/AGS certed diamonds on BlueNile? If so, that isn't a fair comparison since those stones fetch a higher premium.

 

[Gypsy]

No. Terrible deal.

Only European Lab that is 'equivalent' is HRD. But as stated, GIA europe is still GIA.

Who ever told you otherwise is lying to you.

You have no idea if the stone is a G or a true SI2.

I would not deal with this vendor and it goes without saying I'd pass on the stone.

 

[Gypsy]

Honestly the amount of information you have.... you shouldn't be spending 6 dollars on a diamond let alone 6 thousand.

Here are some information about a MUCH more reputable lab than EGI, EGL, and that lab is still frankly... terrible. Let alone EGI. All of the information in the below goes double for your stone/lab.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/gia-vs-egl-usa-vs-egl-international-which-is-the-best-deal.162154/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/gia-vs-egl-usa-vs-egl-international-which-is-the-best-deal.162154/[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/is-it-really-true-gia-ags-compared-to-egl.159873/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/is-it-really-true-gia-ags-compared-to-egl.159873/[/URL] An EGL_Europe F could easily be a GIA J. It has happened before. We've got a TON of threads on here where people have sent their EGL stones to GIA or AGS. The results are startling. Your EGI bound to be even worse.


GIA or AGS ONLY.

Also, when I said what are the stats I didn't mean dimensions. If you don't know what a diamonds stats are, you shouldn't be buying a diamond.

Start here: https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-cut READ IT ALL.

Put your wallet away for now.

Would you go car shopping if all you knew about cars were that some were sedans, some were SUVs and some were convertible? No. That's about all you know about diamonds from the above post.

You need more knowledge A LOT MORE before you spend thousands on anything.

 

[heididdl]

Hi all,

I've been doing some ring shopping and have narrowed down my selection to one particular diamond:

1.20 carat, G, SI2 with an ideal (H&A) cut, VG polish, VG symmetry and no fluorescence for ~$6300. Comparing the price to BlueNile it seems like a pretty good price, but the only thing holding me back is a white, wispy imperfection that streaks across a small corner of the diamond.

I'm no expert, but perhaps the more seasoned members of this board could weigh in? Is it common for most SI2s to have some visible imperfections?

Thanks in advance for the help!

Frank

Frank its all about the cut....Excellent Excellent Excellent proper proportions make a fabulously sparkly stone. Color and clarity second and third. So let's look at 3x GIA sstones......

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2978077.htm# for example

AGS report for the aabove diamond = 0 http://www.whiteflash.com/jewelry/thumbnail.ashx?itemcode=sarin_ags-104065987025.jpg&type=sarin


For Reference her is a 3x GIA 1.22 stone this is what it should cost good dealllll


http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2972958.htm