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I got all excited until I saw the price lol
I got all excited until I saw the price lol
Yes WF will definitely understand the color in the stone. Their quality control knows all about it no doubt
What a shame OP has to go through this disappointment and re-do her whole engagement ring.
It would take me two color grades to see the difference from top view.@Dancing Fire I would ask if you could tell a difference when you went from an I to an H, but I am not sure you would give me a straight answer
You don't have to be "color sensitive" to know that an I color is classified as having tint. It's a fact. How it "faces up" has nothing to do with it. The body color will be the TRUE color of the damond.
The best way to purchase a diamond is NOT sight unseen and/or mounted in a setting. You need to see it loose, in your own environment and go from there. The mounting can play a part, too, either partially masking or enhancing the color depending on the metal and prongs.
Yup, this is exactly the issue. All diamonds reflect colors in their environment. That said, H/I will have more tint than D/E, but this pic is a great example of how no stone ever looks icy white 100% of the timeI forgot I had this picture on my phone but thought it would be a good one to illustrate how surroundings can affect a diamond’s color. This is my first super ideal, an ACA .4ct D. This is the only area at my house I can get beautiful black arrow pics. But, as you can see, my beige house made this D look yellow.
That’s not to say what you are seeing in your I is not actual tint from you diamond. I’m currently trading in my I for a G because the tint in my I bothers me.
Ditto that!Daydreamer...you know what, I'm on your side with this. I see the yellow. I don't care if it's because of the walls, your shirt, the light here or there. That diamond is not for you. Return it.
I was thinking the same thing... if you could bring in 1 or 2 other stones to see the difference in your world that would help you make a change or make peace with it.@daydreamer24 You’ll find a variety of opinions and experiences on here, but in the end none of that changes what your eyes see. Anyone can look at a picture on the internet and make assumptions (and accusations, even), but the example @Wewechew shared above — with her D-color diamond demonstrating pretty obvious environmental impact — would definitely give me pause about rushing into any sort of diamond swap & expense without first doing the most due diligence I could. Is it possible to order in another diamond one or two color grades higher than your current diamond so that you can compare it to your current diamond for yourself — in your environment — and see what difference if any a higher color may make? That would be the ideal way to ensure you end up with the right ‘ideal’ diamond for you.
Thank you for your advice - I think you are absolutely right - at the time I just wanted the diamond ASAP, and I thought I was ok with the colour and was not colour sensitive, so told my bf to go ahead with an I. I guess, maybe when the SAs are assessing the colours, they also only look at it in one type of lighting/environment which may not bring out the colour differences? (I may be incorrect in that assumption).While I appreciate the SA's input, it sounds like a SA. She is essentially saying both are great but clearly there is a difference or there wouldn't be a color grade differential nor would there be a price difference. It is honestly, coming from my position of being married 30 years this Fall, ridiculous to ask a woman on the verge of being proposed to "which would she be upset to have lost"... listen, we've all been there. I was there many years ago. We started dreaming of that proposal from as far back as we can remember so when that ring is like literally mere breaths away, we are like WE WANT IT! At that point of the journey, we could care less about H vs I... we don't even hear what the SA is saying to us. The only thing we hear is the voice in our head saying, "Get that ring on my finger STAT!".
Just tell your wonderful fiancé that it was very overwhelming and this was just something that isn't something one can conceptualize until it is experienced. So you didn't know what the I color would actually be like, ESPECIALLY GIVEN you selected the diamond over the INTERNET. Just be honest and say that you saw IMMEDIATELY when he presented you with the ring that it screamed "yellow". And then go into the whole thing about that this is THEEE ring, the beginning of your starting your lives together and it just has to be right. "We can never get this moment back", so we need to make it "right" from the get-go. Bottom line: The SA clearly made it sound as if the difference was negligible yet it clearly isn't IRL.
As for your mounting, as long as a new diamond is of relatively similar measurements they should be able to mount the new diamond in it. Gosh, you sound like me... I always have some "special situation"... I completely get you!
I forgot I had this picture on my phone but thought it would be a good one to illustrate how surroundings can affect a diamond’s color. This is my first super ideal, an ACA .4ct D. This is the only area at my house I can get beautiful black arrow pics. But, as you can see, my beige house made this D look yellow.
That’s not to say what you are seeing in your I is not actual tint from you diamond. I’m currently trading in my I for a G because the tint in my I bothers me.
Definitely! I’m so glad I went to a reputable vendor that has such flexible policies. I read another thread about regrets on colour (from enchanted diamonds) and the buyer was in a situation where she wouldn’t be able to upgrade/exchange without making a loss. So I definitely feel a lot more fortunate - I can return (within the next 2 weeks) or upgrade whenever I want.Don't you feel empowered? Just knowing you CAN make the change if you CHOOSE to... but you don't have to do ANYTHING should you deicide not to!
Yes, it does! Haha I didn’t even notice. 55.7 vs 56.7 for the H.Yes, they are a really awesome vendor. To my eye, the G on the left appears as the most colorless. And it looks like that one has a smaller table (yum!)?... am I seeing it correctly? If so, I would go with that one.
Yes, I do see it (but obviously I'm looking for it and I know it is there)... but it most definitely is not the contrast that was the case with the photo of your current I and the H you didn't take.
That's interesting... see if you can put that photo up against these. I think that perhaps your I is a warmer I, closer to a J, perhaps. Irregardless, now you are here and you may be getting a G so all is well in the world! I think we need to see what the eye-visible inclusion is to be able to give input on it. So if the G on the left is not eye clean enough for you, what is the deal with the other G?
Yes, they are a really awesome vendor. To my eye, the G on the left appears as the most colorless. And it looks like that one has a smaller table (yum!)?... am I seeing it correctly? If so, I would go with that one.
Be glad! What I wouldn’t give...This makes me feel pathetic, but I don't see any color differences between the stones, even when all lined up!
Yes, they are a really awesome vendor. To my eye, the G on the left appears as the most colorless. And it looks like that one has a smaller table (yum!)?... am I seeing it correctly? If so, I would go with that one.
DARN IT!... I LOVE the proportions of the 1st G!Just adding some more numbers for reference. WF have said both the G diamonds are not completely eye clean, but waiting for them to get back to me at what angle/distance is an inclusion visible and what inclusion it is. I would prefer to go with a G for colour reasons, but if the inclusions are quite easily visible even from 5/6 inches, then I perhaps would be inclined to go with the H.
any help greatly appreciated!
Left to Right in photo (with 3 diamonds)
(1) G SI1 - HCA score = 0.9
Depth - 61.6
Table - 55.7
Crown Angle - 34.7
Star % - 52
Pavilion Angle - 40.7
Crown % 15.3
Lower Girdle - 76
(2) H VS2 - HCA Score = 0.8
Depth - 61.7
Table - 56.7
Crown Angle - 34.6
Star % - 53
Pavilion Angle - 40.6
Crown % 14.9
Lower Girdle - 77
(3) G SI1 - HCA score = 0.5
Depth - 60.6
Table - 56.2
Crown Angle - 34.2
Star % - 50
Pavilion Angle - 40.6
Crown % 15
Lower Girdle - 77
My current diamond
I VS2 (didn't check the HCA score)
Depth - 61.4
Table - 56.2
Crown Angle - 34.7
Star % - 48
Pavilion Angle - 40.6
Crown % 15.2
Lower Girdle - 76