Starting Over: Where do I go now

[kisbel65]

I thought I found my dream ring, but after talking to Gypsy I realize I may not be getting what I was paying for (see newbie dover jewerly post). I have been looking forever and the two sites that had the best prices were Dover and Fay Cullen. I choose Dover because they were in my back yard, but realized that they were probably over estimating the size of the center stone (the deal breaker for me). I had a gut feeling about it, but choose to ignore it until Gypsy mentioned it (thanks again Gypsy). I dont like Fay Cullens refund policy, so I dont know where else to turn for a vintage/estate engagement ring in my price range (about 6,000). Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Gypsy]

Go back to your other post. See what I wrote. Then we can talk about finding a ring for you.

 

[Gypsy]

If you can do 6,500 and you want a step cut with a halo, here's what I'd suggest.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1490914.asp (Need ASET image from the vendor to evaluate performance) $5,102 Put on hold if you want it.

Setting: http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7528W44JJ With PS discount from PS vendor price will be $1500.


If you want a square in a halo, here's what I'd suggest:
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1279863.asp $3700 (Need ASET image from the vendor to evaluate light performance)

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7942W83JJ from a PS vendor $1800 from a PS vendor


And if you want an oval or a pear

This sucker is 10mm by 6mm. That's a lot of diamond. http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI1-Good-Cut-Pear-Diamond-1458891.asp (Need ASET image from the vendor) Leaves you enough for a simple solitaire setting.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Pear-Diamond-1362112.asp (Need ASET image from the vendor). Leaves you 1000 for a nice pave solitaire like this one http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-32ct-french-cut-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-11005w14.html

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Very-Good-Cut-Pear-Diamond-1334043.asp (Need ASET image from the vendor). Leaves you 2k for a halo setting like this one http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER5854W44JJ

 

[Gypsy]

Other settings you might like.

http://www.elizabetajewelry.com/products/beverley-k-diamond-engagement-ring-semi-mount-center-stone-not-included-number-685-slash-75 Can be made for a cushion or maybe even for an emerald cut.

For a cushion: http://www.elizabetajewelry.com/products/beverley-k-diamond-engagement-ring-semi-mount-center-stone-not-included-number-9022-slash-65ac

GORGEOUS with a cushion or an emerald cut: http://www.elizabetajewelry.com/products/beverley-k-diamond-engagement-ring-semi-mount-center-stone-not-included-number-9294-slash-75 Or even an oval. Here are different views of it: http://www.greenwichjewelers.com/store/designers/beverley-k/products/beverley-k-oval-shaped-art-deco-diamond-engagement-ring#

For a cushion: http://www.elizabetajewelry.com/products/beverley-k-diamond-engagement-ring-semi-mount-center-stone-not-included-number-tj021-slash-65sq

 

[kisbel65]

Gypsy,

I am flabbergasted by your expertise and knowledge. I assume you work with price scope? You provided some beautiful choices, I especially liked the Beverly k settings (the last one was my favorite). I not sure if I want to make my own. I am more interested in a vintage/antique ring.

 

[Gypsy]

Gypsy,

I am flabbergasted by your expertise and knowledge. I assume you work with price scope? You provided some beautiful choices, I especially liked the Beverly k settings (the last one was my favorite). I not sure if I want to make my own. I am more interested in a vintage/antique ring.

No. I don't work with Pricescope. I'm sitting in my cube at my regular job typing this (though I am just waiting for my ride, I've been done for a WHILE now, hence the PS posts), and it has nothing to do with jewelry at all.

Your best value for the money -- and you don't have a big budget for a 1 carat center, I'll be honest, but it is a workable one-- is going to be in picking the pieces and putting them together. Something's got to give, kwim? And in this case, to make your dreams come true you might have to do a little DIY. PLUS, honestly the reason you DO NOT find a lot of 'rings sold complete' is because we do NOT recommend buying that way very often, from retailers as normally you do not get the best values that way.

If you want to make the process really easy on yourself, you can call Julian at Pearlmans Jewelers. Tell him we sent you. And give him your budget, give him the Beverly K setting you like (they are a retailer) and tell him you want EITHER an oval or a cushion for it (Beverly K does customize their settings) and you want him to pick you a very nice SUPER BRIGHT oval or cushion for you with the following specs: over 1 carat. GIA J color or better and eyeclean at any distance from the top. They are one of my favorite vendors in terms of customer service and in terms of one stop shopping. He'll find you something beautiful.

Your other option is Old World Diamonds. Call Adam. He has a lot of gorgeous settings but none of them are online. He does True Vintage and Antique stones only. And he specializes in them.

ANOTHER option for you. http://diamondbistro.com/ This is where a lot of pricescopers post their pre-owned stuff. Some of the rings are vintage and antique ones. Prices vary on whether they are good or not (some are great, others are crazy). But it's worth a browse. There are real diamonds and simulants on there, so you do need to make sure that what you are looking at is a diamond (usually it says if it is). BUT there are some really great listings on their in your price range. Like these:
http://diamondbistro.com/category/216/Natural-Diamond-Center/listings/30749/113-M-VS1-GIA-OECTransitional-in-Plat-repro-sz6.html (ask for a return policy of 3 days) and this one: http://diamondbistro.com/category/215/Loose-natural-Diamonds/listings/31090/Old-European-Cut-OEC-143c-710mm-K-VS-Diamond.html

Also Jewels by Erica Grace specializes in Vintage. Mostly they sell stones separate from mountings but there is this one: http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/Jewelry/Rings-Antique-Vintage/93ct-Old-European-Cut-Diamond/22566051_NnhN2S#!i=1806092152&k=qjzpj3v It is .93 but it's also 4,300

Also this one at the top of the page: http://jewelsbyericagrace.com/antique_vintage_and_reproduction_rings_page_3 1.19 carat center and several more.

 

[kisbel65]

Gypsy,

Thank you so much. Your right something has to give. I guess I will be buying the diamond and setting seperately. Once I get my refund, I going to wait a few weeks before I start again. I am in graduate school and this ring thing is taken up a lot of time away from statistics (not that I like stats, but I do have to pass the damm thing). Can I continue to ask your advice from time to time? You have really opened up my eyes. I was looking in the wrong place. Wish me luck tomorrow, I am so scared Hamid is going to give me a hard time.

 

[madelise]

Wow, Gypsy, your dedication always amazes me!

 

[MsP]

Wow, Gypsy, your dedication always amazes me!

2nd! Members like you make PS invaluable.

 

[Enerchi]

I "third" that! Gypsy is *gifted* when it comes to finding an amazing diamond/setting/pre-loved beauty... she's spooky in her accuracy too!!!

 

[kisbel65]

Yes, Gypsy ROCKS about ROCKS!!!! I wish I had reached out to her before I made my purchase.

 

[Enerchi]

Yes, Gypsy ROCKS about ROCKS!!!! I wish I had reached out to her before I made my purchase.

Well, she's on it now, so never fear - you will find the ring that's perfect for you, with her help!

 

[Gypsy]

WOW. Sure didn't expect this when I clicked on this thread. Thank you everyone for your wonderful words. You made my week.

kisbel, pass that Statistics class then we'll find you something perfect. I'll be here, and even if I'm not most people know how to get a hold of me off the boards.

 

[Gypsy]

I know you are ready to look, but I needed the distraction so I didn't rip off the head of a co-worker. All of these would need to be evaluated for light performance and all of the SI clarities for eyecleanliness.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/D-VS2-Good-Cut-Oval-Diamond-1499144.asp Big oval, amazing spread 5200 with PS discount and wire transfer.

Antique style cushion: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-SI2-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1206899.asp

Another Antique style cushion: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-SI1-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1262073.asp

Square cushion: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-SI1-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1281682.asp

Another http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-SI2-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1280541.asp

I think this one is going to have a bowtie: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1384058.asp

I find this one interesting: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1450683.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1456973.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1280320.asp if it has good light return it would give you a great setting budget to work with.

 

[webdiva]

I'm with Gypsy, finding an intact antique ring on a budget is TOUGH! (BTW, Gypsy, I echo everyone else about raving about you! And those diamond choices are to DIE FOR!) Read my LA reviews thread to see all the antique jewelry dealers I visited.

I went with a Bev K inspired by a ring from the 1910s and a modern stone, but you can also go with a replica setting with antique diamond from Old World Diamonds (or Good old Gold, etc). If you're looking at art deco, many of the real antique rings I saw were not meant for daily wear. Yes, they've survived 100 years and look great but were delicate. Of course, this depends on the style or ring and how worn it was to begin with. I know someone will pop up with "I wear my antique ring every day!" but think about the amount of wear your ring will get in your personal daily life and adjust accordingly. Good luck - this is so exciting and fun!

 

[Gypsy]

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1508393.asp Ran across this one doing a search for someone else. Wanted to put it on the potentials list.



THIS ONE may be eyeclean. There is a chance. If so... steal for a one carat at 3,500 (as long as the light performance bears out in an ASET) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-SI2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1424446.asp And that leaves you with enough for a really fabulous setting.

 

[kisbel65]

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1508393.asp Ran across this one doing a search for someone else. Wanted to put it on the potentials list.



THIS ONE may be eyeclean. There is a chance. If so... steal for a one carat at 3,500 (as long as the light performance bears out in an ASET) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-SI2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1424446.asp And that leaves you with enough for a really fabulous setting.

Gypsy,

I am back from hell (AKA statistics). I have four more weeks of stats and counting. I am meeting Hamid form Dover to pick up my check (I spoke with on Friday and he was very nice but said he was out of town, but would gladly give me my refund today). I made a lot of mistakes with this purchase (paid by check, didn’t have him measure the center stone in front of me, went goo goo ga ga and did not think straight). I believe in the other post (newbie post) I post a diamond I liked. I love to get your opinion. Also, I love the Beverly K settings and found one that I really liked but wanted to know if it would support a bigger stone (once I upgrade in the future).

Thanks,

Belkis

http://www.elizabetajewelry.com/products/beverley-k-diamond-engagement-ring-semi-mount-center-stone-not-included-number-389-slash-48

 

[rubybeth]

Also, I love the Beverly K settings and found one that I really liked but wanted to know if it would support a bigger stone (once I upgrade in the future).

Thanks,

Belkis

http://www.elizabetajewelry.com/products/beverley-k-diamond-engagement-ring-semi-mount-center-stone-not-included-number-389-slash-48

Not Gypsy, but I can tell you that you won't be able to re-use that type of setting if you upgrade, since the bezel would be made to perfectly fit your stone, and subsequent removal of the stone would likely damage the bezel, or your larger stone would mean the halo portion would need to be completely re-made, and possibly the cathedral-style shank would no longer fit the larger bezel. If it's what you love, though, get it now and then get a different setting when you upgrade.

 

[kisbel65]

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1508393.asp Ran across this one doing a search for someone else. Wanted to put it on the potentials list.



THIS ONE may be eyeclean. There is a chance. If so... steal for a one carat at 3,500 (as long as the light performance bears out in an ASET) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-SI2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1424446.asp And that leaves you with enough for a really fabulous setting.

How does a diamond like the one you suggested stack up to this diamond? I know I have to get educated, but I am burnt out from stats. I know I am probably asking a lot, but would prefer VS2. My pickiness is the reason I cant do business with DOver ( I would be very upset if I was not buying what the spec stated).

Thanks again.


Belkis

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-2908704-1.00-carat-Round-diamond-G-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=2908704&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

 

[rubybeth]

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1508393.asp Ran across this one doing a search for someone else. Wanted to put it on the potentials list.



THIS ONE may be eyeclean. There is a chance. If so... steal for a one carat at 3,500 (as long as the light performance bears out in an ASET) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-SI2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1424446.asp And that leaves you with enough for a really fabulous setting.

How does a diamond like the one you suggested stack up to this diamond? I know I have to get educated, but I am burnt out from stats. I know I am probably asking a lot, but would prefer VS2. My pickiness is the reason I cant do business with DOver ( I would be very upset if I was not buying what the spec stated).

Thanks again.


Belkis

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-2908704-1.00-carat-Round-diamond-G-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=2908704&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Again, not Gypsy, but are you asking how a good cut round compares to an emerald cut? The 'good' cut rating from JA is just something they assign, not something GIA assigns. I would only want an excellent/ideal cut round. Step cuts are entirely different. Also, with an SI stone, seeing the 20x loupe image is helpful to know where the inclusions are and how visible they might be.

 

[Christina...]

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1508393.asp Ran across this one doing a search for someone else. Wanted to put it on the potentials list.



THIS ONE may be eyeclean. There is a chance. If so... steal for a one carat at 3,500 (as long as the light performance bears out in an ASET) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-SI2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1424446.asp And that leaves you with enough for a really fabulous setting.

How does a diamond like the one you suggested stack up to this diamond? I know I have to get educated, but I am burnt out from stats. I know I am probably asking a lot, but would prefer VS2. My pickiness is the reason I cant do business with DOver ( I would be very upset if I was not buying what the spec stated).

Thanks again.


Belkis

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-2908704-1.00-carat-Round-diamond-G-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=2908704&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Not Gypsy, but I can tell you that you do NOT want the RB that you linked. It's much too deep and is going to face up much smaller than other 1ct RBs. A well cut 1ct should face up around 6.4-6.5mm this one is 5.8. We typically recommend nothing deeper than 62.3, this one is 72.3

I see that you want a G or better VS2 or better, but I can tell you that a well cut I colored stone will face up whiter and brighter and have better optics than a poorly cut colorless stone. Inclusions tend to blend better in a well cut stone as well because of the light performance. Dropping a bit in color can significantly lower the price of the stone as well. Most people can't visibly see color in set stones down to I unless they are compared side by side to an equal well cut DEF. My J faces up very white, the body color that it holds is only seen through the pavilion angle and others won't be viewing the ring from this angle. However, your gf will see this angle a lot, so if she is particularly color sensitive than I would stay around H.

Also there are tons of eye clean SI1s, even some SI2s out there and they can be a great value. Most vendors do a really great job at evaluating the cleanliness of a stone and can assist you in that regard.

 

[Gypsy]

With rounds there are cut designations that mean something assigned. So you want to stick to only Excellent (GIA) or Ideal (AGS) with rounds.

With fancies (emerald, cushion, oval) any 'cut criteria' labels are false as there are no standards for what angles/etc. make for great performance. You need to have an eye for them and have an ASET.

That Beverly K will not be able to accommodate a different stone once it is made for your stone.

BUT it can be custom made for a different SHAPED stone. So if you want a square, a cushion or an EC or even an Oval. Beverly K can customize it to fit the shape of any stone you want, and they do. So you aren't stuck with a round.

IF you do want a round. I would suggest looking at vintage stones. (I linked you to JBEG above) as you will be able to get a LOT more size out of 5k in a vintage stone than you would a Moder Round Brilliant.

 

[webdiva]

That's a gorgeous Bev K that is similar to mine, I actually showed a pic of one in real life in my LA reviews thread from Wanna Buy A Watch. It inspired me to add the little bezels to my design! I've tried it on in both white gold and pink gold (they plated it for another customer but she passed on it) and it's STUNNING! It has a 6.5 mm stone in it and it has massive finger coverage.

Honestly, you may not want to upgrade in the future if you go with that ring. Look at my ring thread and the finger coverage on a 5.25 fingers on a 5.5 mm stone. I think you may be happy for life with this type of ring! FWIW, my entire ring set incl. diamond, setting, customizations to the setting and wedding band (incl. shipping, no tax) was $4500.

EDIT: Since you've busy here are the thread links

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/buying-a-ring-in-los-angeles-local-and-online-reviews.174086/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/buying-a-ring-in-los-angeles-local-and-online-reviews.174086/[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-art-deco-bev-k-ring-princess-of-hearts-from-gog.175328/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-art-deco-bev-k-ring-princess-of-hearts-from-gog.175328/[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/art-deco-hexagonal-eternity-ring-to-match-my-bev-k.177302/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/art-deco-hexagonal-eternity-ring-to-match-my-bev-k.177302/[/URL]

I'm picky too, and the Bev K is STUNNING. It has the delicacy of the real rings of the style from 1910 (which I tried on at Wanna Buy A Watch, but were too delicate for everyday wear).

 

[Dreamer_D]

Kisbel, what are you looking for in this ring? Can you list your desired size and cut for the diamond and the style for the ring? Do you want a modern or vintage piece?

 

[kisbel65]

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1508393.asp Ran across this one doing a search for someone else. Wanted to put it on the potentials list.



THIS ONE may be eyeclean. There is a chance. If so... steal for a one carat at 3,500 (as long as the light performance bears out in an ASET) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-SI2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1424446.asp And that leaves you with enough for a really fabulous setting.

How does a diamond like the one you suggested stack up to this diamond? I know I have to get educated, but I am burnt out from stats. I know I am probably asking a lot, but would prefer VS2. My pickiness is the reason I cant do business with DOver ( I would be very upset if I was not buying what the spec stated).

Thanks again.


Belkis

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-2908704-1.00-carat-Round-diamond-G-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=2908704&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Again, not Gypsy, but are you asking how a good cut round compares to an emerald cut? The 'good' cut rating from JA is just something they assign, not something GIA assigns. I would only want an excellent/ideal cut round. Step cuts are entirely different. Also, with an SI stone, seeing the 20x loupe image is helpful to know where the inclusions are and how visible they might be.

I have a lot of research to do. I thought that as long it was Vs2 or better in the range (G - I )I would be ok, boy was I wrong. There is so much more to this than I thought. I thought the vendor had to assign the same cut as what is on the GIA certificate?

Thanks again for your reply. I am learning a lot.

Belkis

 

[rubybeth]

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1508393.asp Ran across this one doing a search for someone else. Wanted to put it on the potentials list.



THIS ONE may be eyeclean. There is a chance. If so... steal for a one carat at 3,500 (as long as the light performance bears out in an ASET) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-SI2-Very-Good-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1424446.asp And that leaves you with enough for a really fabulous setting.

How does a diamond like the one you suggested stack up to this diamond? I know I have to get educated, but I am burnt out from stats. I know I am probably asking a lot, but would prefer VS2. My pickiness is the reason I cant do business with DOver ( I would be very upset if I was not buying what the spec stated).

Thanks again.


Belkis

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-2908704-1.00-carat-Round-diamond-G-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=2908704&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Again, not Gypsy, but are you asking how a good cut round compares to an emerald cut? The 'good' cut rating from JA is just something they assign, not something GIA assigns. I would only want an excellent/ideal cut round. Step cuts are entirely different. Also, with an SI stone, seeing the 20x loupe image is helpful to know where the inclusions are and how visible they might be.

I have a lot of research to do. I thought that as long it was Vs2 or better in the range (G - I )I would be ok, boy was I wrong. There is so much more to this than I thought. I thought the vendor had to assign the same cut as what is on the GIA certificate?

Thanks again for your reply. I am learning a lot.

Belkis

No, GIA and AGS only assign cut grades for rounds (and AGS also assigns them for princess cuts and the August Vintage stones sold by Good Old Gold). Clarity and color won't affect the sparkle or brilliance of a stone nearly as much as most think--cut is the largest factor for that. James Allen assigns 'cut' grades for all their stones, but for fancy cuts, as Gypsy said, those parameters are kind of imaginary. You really need to see the stone and get an ASET image to determine light return.

As Dreamer asked, what would be your ideal? Jewels by Erica Grace has some great antique or antique-styled pieces, as well as genuine antique stones, and we can help you find the setting of your dreams. This is one of my favorite antique-styled settings: http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7925W83JJ

 

[Gypsy]

Rubybeth is right on.

Here's where I would start your research:

https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/fancy-shape-diamonds
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-cut
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-clarity
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-color


Color and clarity are the equivalent of the paint job and trim on a car. You don't go into car shopping saying "I want a red car with chrome trim". You go into it saying; I want a sedan, four doors, nothing too big, that seats four, gets good gas mileage and had a great crash test rating, abs breaks, side curtain air bags, and is very reliable. Same thing with diamond shopping. The difference is, you've been around cars all your life and you have a better idea of what you want. With diamonds, you have a learning curve.

Also, I would venture to say that a LARGE number of pricescopers have SI1 clarity diamonds, and also diamonds that are not in the G-I color range. You need a bit more knowledge where clarity and color are concerned as well.

First thing you need to do, IMO, is decide on a shape. Or at least narrow it down to two shapes that you like. So read the links above and come back to us with what shape you want.

Other than that I know you have a budget of 6k. You want a vintage style setting (and maybe that Beverly K you linked to above). And you want a diamond that is at least a carat in weight. But first we need the shape to help you. And you need to do some more research.

 

[kisbel65]

Kisbel, what are you looking for in this ring? Can you list your desired size and cut for the diamond and the style for the ring? Do you want a modern or vintage piece?

Thank you for asking. I would love a vintage inspired piece (Gypsy convinced me that for my budget 6,000 + I should buy the diamond and setting seperately). Center stone must be between 1.00 -1.25 ct. I love ovals, cushion, asschers and rounds VS1 or better I-J range. That is all I know about diamonds. I now from reading the posts that I need an ideal or excellent cut for rounds and I think it does not matter what cut it is if it is a fancy stone (ovals, asschers). I want the center stone to look big ( I am being honest here), so it has to face up ( I have no clue). Also, I am going to add 1,200 to my budget for a total of 7,200.

 

[kisbel65]

That's a gorgeous Bev K that is similar to mine, I actually showed a pic of one in real life in my LA reviews thread from Wanna Buy A Watch. It inspired me to add the little bezels to my design! I've tried it on in both white gold and pink gold (they plated it for another customer but she passed on it) and it's STUNNING! It has a 6.5 mm stone in it and it has massive finger coverage.

Honestly, you may not want to upgrade in the future if you go with that ring. Look at my ring thread and the finger coverage on a 5.25 fingers on a 5.5 mm stone. I think you may be happy for life with this type of ring! FWIW, my entire ring set incl. diamond, setting, customizations to the setting and wedding band (incl. shipping, no tax) was $4500.

EDIT: Since you've busy here are the thread links

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/buying-a-ring-in-los-angeles-local-and-online-reviews.174086/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/buying-a-ring-in-los-angeles-local-and-online-reviews.174086/[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-art-deco-bev-k-ring-princess-of-hearts-from-gog.175328/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-art-deco-bev-k-ring-princess-of-hearts-from-gog.175328/[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/art-deco-hexagonal-eternity-ring-to-match-my-bev-k.177302/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/art-deco-hexagonal-eternity-ring-to-match-my-bev-k.177302/[/URL]

I'm picky too, and the Bev K is STUNNING. It has the delicacy of the real rings of the style from 1910 (which I tried on at Wanna Buy A Watch, but were too delicate for everyday wear).

Your ring is beautiful and what a great price. It has that vintage look I love. Did Beverly K set the stone for you? Did you buy the stone from them or someone else?

 

[kisbel65]

Rubybeth is right on.

Here's where I would start your research:

https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/fancy-shape-diamonds
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-cut
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-clarity
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-color


Color and clarity are the equivalent of the paint job and trim on a car. You don't go into car shopping saying "I want a red car with chrome trim". You go into it saying; I want a sedan, four doors, nothing too big, that seats four, gets good gas mileage and had a great crash test rating, abs breaks, side curtain air bags, and is very reliable. Same thing with diamond shopping. The difference is, you've been around cars all your life and you have a better idea of what you want. With diamonds, you have a learning curve.

Also, I would venture to say that a LARGE number of pricescopers have SI1 clarity diamonds, and also diamonds that are not in the G-I color range. You need a bit more knowledge where clarity and color are concerned as well.

First thing you need to do, IMO, is decide on a shape. Or at least narrow it down to two shapes that you like. So read the links above and come back to us with what shape you want.

Other than that I know you have a budget of 6k. You want a vintage style setting (and maybe that Beverly K you linked to above). And you want a diamond that is at least a carat in weight. But first we need the shape to help you. And you need to do some more research.

Thank you for the analogy, I had it all wrong. If I have to narrow it down to two cuts, I choose oval and round. As I stated in another post, I now have an additional 1.200 for total of 7,200.