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Niel

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As sometimes I know its hard to imagine what your finished ring will look like with clunky cads can you please post a picture of your cad and your finished product??
 
No CADs to show, but great idea Niel!
 
I don't have my CAD's but I do have the wax model and the finished product if that might help? I wasn't ever given my CAD's but I do remember looking at them and being really disappointed because of how horrible it looked. The jeweler had to reassure me that the CAD was just like an outline for the ring and just to look at it for how I wanted the "layout" of the ring to be vs. how I wanted the details, and she was right, the finished product came out great. So this is a really good idea! Hopefully some people can post with their CAD's! :appl:

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WOW Andelain your CAD's were dead on perfect! You almost can't tell the difference. :appl:
 
I'd say the shank in my CADs were much thicker in real life (2mm).

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LOVE LOVE LOVE your ring Logan Sapphire!! :love:
 
Logan Sapphire|1398274067|3658616 said:
I'd say the shank in my CADs were much thicker in real life (2mm).
And the millgraining is softer as that aspect is hand done
 
My five stone...which I reset then sold. Pricescope disease :nono:

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My vintage sapphire and OEC ring.

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Mayk|1398286770|3658706 said:
My five stone...which I reset then sold. Pricescope disease :nono:

Goodness! Is that really exactly the CAD for the piece? If so - it's very different! The shared prong vs. four-prong aspect is the first alteration I noticed...

I was beginning a long rant on the potential relationships between CAD and CAM, differences between vendors, differences between the intended purpose of the CAD (a beginning model for a client on which a wax will be based, The Model for The Wax which will be produced by CAM, a beginning model of a vision from which a piece will be hand-crafted, etc.)...

Niel, I will be honest, I think starting a thread saying "compare the CAD and the finished product" and leaving it at that is throwing the topic to the wolves - it can be tremendously misleading without some context and reference and a good amount of further explanation. It's like stating that "unplated white gold is creamy" - no, without more information about karat and alloy there is no basis for assertion of that ubiquitous correlation.

I don't have time to delve into it at the moment but I'll post some examples later - they're certainly on PS aplenty. I think yours would be a fantastic place to start on that discussion Mayk!!
 
That was the change I requested when I received the cad... I couldn't find the change he sent after my request... But I loved getting the picture of the rough!

This was the setting Dreamer tried to tell me was too high... But nooo I wanted those little diamonds.... Yeah I ended up with a very plain very low reset..l then sold it for me EC project.
 
Yssie|1398289359|3658728 said:
Mayk|1398286770|3658706 said:
My five stone...which I reset then sold. Pricescope disease :nono:

Goodness! Is that really exactly the CAD for the piece? If so - it's very different! The shared prong vs. four-prong aspect is the first alteration I noticed...

I was beginning a long rant on the potential relationships between CAD and CAM, differences between vendors, differences between the intended purpose of the CAD (a beginning model for a client on which a wax will be based, The Model for The Wax which will be produced by CAM, a beginning model of a vision from which a piece will be hand-crafted, etc.)...

Niel, I will be honest, I think starting a thread saying "compare the CAD and the finished product" and leaving it at that is throwing the topic to the wolves - it can be tremendously misleading without some context and reference and a good amount of further explanation. It's like stating that "unplated white gold is creamy" - no, without more information about karat and alloy there is no basis for assertion of that ubiquitous correlation.

I don't have time to delve into it at the moment but I'll post some examples later - they're certainly on PS aplenty. I think yours would be a fantastic place to start on that discussion Mayk!!

I think it would be helpful to know which vendor provided the renderings, but I think its nice for people who haven't gone though the process to see, and also just fun for me. Maybe not too scientific but I like to see the before and after.
 
Adam at Sareen Jewelry did my e-ring, my bands and my five-stone...

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Last one top view

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I had a pretty good idea how this project would turn out, so I let the drawings be pretty basic. Drawing vs. actual at the link.
 
Niel|1398275255|3658628 said:
Logan Sapphire|1398274067|3658616 said:
I'd say the shank in my CADs were much thicker in real life (2mm).
And the millgraining is softer as that aspect is hand done

Yeah, I forgot to add that so thanks. You're exactly right- the milgrain is much more delicate in real life, which is how I wanted it.

Btw, Niel, I really like your five stone and had I not already had an open gallery ering, I would've wanted mine just like yours.
 
Logan Sapphire|1398297513|3658812 said:
Niel|1398275255|3658628 said:
Logan Sapphire|1398274067|3658616 said:
I'd say the shank in my CADs were much thicker in real life (2mm).
And the millgraining is softer as that aspect is hand done

Yeah, I forgot to add that so thanks. You're exactly right- the milgrain is much more delicate in real life, which is how I wanted it.

Btw, Niel, I really like your five stone and had I not already had an open gallery ering, I would've wanted mine just like yours.

Thanks LS. You're right if you had done mine like yours it would be too similar. your two are different enough that you could wear them on both hands at the same time if you were so inclined. Smart move.
 
My CAD from ERD and the finished product.

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Here is my cad from Eternity by Yoni and the finished project.

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Niel|1398292342|3658762 said:
Yssie|1398289359|3658728 said:
Mayk|1398286770|3658706 said:
My five stone...which I reset then sold. Pricescope disease :nono:

Goodness! Is that really exactly the CAD for the piece? If so - it's very different! The shared prong vs. four-prong aspect is the first alteration I noticed...

I was beginning a long rant on the potential relationships between CAD and CAM, differences between vendors, differences between the intended purpose of the CAD (a beginning model for a client on which a wax will be based, The Model for The Wax which will be produced by CAM, a beginning model of a vision from which a piece will be hand-crafted, etc.)...

Niel, I will be honest, I think starting a thread saying "compare the CAD and the finished product" and leaving it at that is throwing the topic to the wolves - it can be tremendously misleading without some context and reference and a good amount of further explanation. It's like stating that "unplated white gold is creamy" - no, without more information about karat and alloy there is no basis for assertion of that ubiquitous correlation.

I don't have time to delve into it at the moment but I'll post some examples later - they're certainly on PS aplenty. I think yours would be a fantastic place to start on that discussion Mayk!!

I think it would be helpful to know which vendor provided the renderings, but I think its nice for people who haven't gone though the process to see, and also just fun for me. Maybe not too scientific but I like to see the before and after.

Completely agree. Not everything has to be so serious! Regardless, having any kind of visual aid to allow for comparison is of benefit, I think :twirl:

Here are two examples of mine:

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me&myboys|1398339045|3659066 said:
Niel|1398292342|3658762 said:
Yssie|1398289359|3658728 said:
Mayk|1398286770|3658706 said:
My five stone...which I reset then sold. Pricescope disease :nono:

Goodness! Is that really exactly the CAD for the piece? If so - it's very different! The shared prong vs. four-prong aspect is the first alteration I noticed...

I was beginning a long rant on the potential relationships between CAD and CAM, differences between vendors, differences between the intended purpose of the CAD (a beginning model for a client on which a wax will be based, The Model for The Wax which will be produced by CAM, a beginning model of a vision from which a piece will be hand-crafted, etc.)...

Niel, I will be honest, I think starting a thread saying "compare the CAD and the finished product" and leaving it at that is throwing the topic to the wolves - it can be tremendously misleading without some context and reference and a good amount of further explanation. It's like stating that "unplated white gold is creamy" - no, without more information about karat and alloy there is no basis for assertion of that ubiquitous correlation.

I don't have time to delve into it at the moment but I'll post some examples later - they're certainly on PS aplenty. I think yours would be a fantastic place to start on that discussion Mayk!!

I think it would be helpful to know which vendor provided the renderings, but I think its nice for people who haven't gone though the process to see, and also just fun for me. Maybe not too scientific but I like to see the before and after.

Completely agree. Not everything has to be so serious! Regardless, having any kind of visual aid to allow for comparison is of benefit, I think :twirl:

Ah. My apologies, I didn't realise in-depth discussion and accuracy of assertion was beside the point; I will refrain from further commentary.

My contribution is one of my several CAD/cast pieces. I think it (along with others already posted in this thread) highlights the importance of
A) Having confidence in one's chosen vendor,
B) Trusting in that chosen vendor's expertise, and
C) Recognising that depending on who is using them and what they are being used for, CADs can be anything from perfectly precise renditions of a piece to vague summations of a concept to strict outlines for wax production (rather than pretty pictures to please the customer).





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I have two...

I honestly feel like both vendors provided a CAD that represented the finished product very well!

First up is from OWD.

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Here is my current ERD ring.

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Ah. My apologies, I didn't realise in-depth discussion and accuracy of assertion was beside the point; I will refrain from further commentary.


A welcome discussion I think,I think would be nice for a RT thread.
 
Niel said:
Ah. My apologies, I didn't realise in-depth discussion and accuracy of assertion was beside the point; I will refrain from further commentary.


A welcome discussion I think,I think would be nice for a RT thread.

You do realize that you are talking to Yssie? Someone that's been around for a long time and is very knowledgeable around here. Please do not direct her away like a child. She is only trying to help and give further details that would help others make wise CAD choices.
 
YT|1398351703|3659129 said:
Niel said:
Ah. My apologies, I didn't realise in-depth discussion and accuracy of assertion was beside the point; I will refrain from further commentary.


A welcome discussion I think,I think would be nice for a RT thread.

You do realize that you are talking to Yssie? Someone that's been around for a long time and is very knowledgeable around here. Please do not direct her away like a child. She is only trying to help and give further details that would help others make wise CAD choices.

Amen! Yssie is definitely someone to be respected around these parts.
 
YT|1398351703|3659129 said:
Niel said:
Ah. My apologies, I didn't realise in-depth discussion and accuracy of assertion was beside the point; I will refrain from further commentary.


A welcome discussion I think,I think would be nice for a RT thread.

You do realize that you are talking to Yssie? Someone that's been around for a long time and is very knowledgeable around here. Please do not direct her away like a child. She is only trying to help and give further details that would help others make wise CAD choices.

I'm not directing her. I was saying I though the discussion was a valid one and would like to see a thread about it. :wavey:
 
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