She didn''t like the ring. Would you be offended?

[purrfectpear]

I''m going to have to agree with your FI. Clearly you didn''t know her that well.

Because you thought you were getting engaged to a woman who put the sentiment first and the ring second.
Sadly, as it turns out, she was all about the diamond and the ring.

For that, you have my sympathy.

It''s not as though you presented some mall ring with frozen monkey spit. I took a good look at your GOG diamond at 40x. I think the ladies here need to realize that we aren''t talking about some giant honking carbon spot

. Assuming I was still willing to marry someone like your FI, I would be sorely tempted to go to Tiffany''s and purchase the smallest solitaire possible. She could lump it and sleep with the blue box as far as I would be concerned.

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 5/6/2009 12:41:27 AM
Author: doodle

Date: 5/6/2009 12:36:00 AM
Author: cdogstu99
Gypsy, Bliss..i think you put in perspective for me. I think maybe i made a bad decision, that i need to essentially own up to it and just trade it in for an eye clean stone. Thanks for the help.

I think this is a good idea, but I also think you really need to talk to her and make sure that once you do so, she''ll be happy with the ring. Make sure you two are on the same page and that both of you will be happy with the decision so that you don''t have to go through round two of this whole thing and have even more hurt feelings on both sides. Last piece of advice--post pix. We kind of tend to eat that stuff up!

Ditto.

As Bliss said, this is symbolic. You can continue on this path alone in the dark, or talk to her and make sure she''s on the same page as you... and fix the problem together as a unit in the light.

And that light? It''s the flash on the camera you are gonna post pics for us with.

 

[nashalmaz]

Date: 5/5/2009 11:15:44 PM
Author:cdogstu99
So i just proposed. She said yes. But now she''s upset with the ring. I spent a long long time deciding on what to get her; going from store to store in my local area and learning as much as possible about diamonds. Reading and reading every nite on pricescope to educate myself about the purchase. I ended up getting a stone from GOG and having it set in a Mark Morrell setting. The stone is beautiful, but there is a slight inclusion on the table (it''s an SI2) which can be seen if you look close enough. But other than that it''s gorgeous...F color, hearts and arrows, AGS triple zero. I figured that she would be able to live with it. She was saying things to the effect of that she thought i didn''t know her well to give her something like that and that she thought i got ripped off. She even went to Tiffany recently to price other rings. It started a big fight and i was really upset. She said that she has to wear this the rest of her life and that it really would bother her. Shouldn''t it mean more than that anyways? Has anyone else had to deal with this?

Would I be offended... Temporarily, yes..
Its very emotional from both sides, something she feels strongly about and something you have spent a lot of effort and a lot of money on.
However, after calming down I would realize that I messed up a bit and got her not quite what she wanted.
It seems like you got a diamond that was perfect in every way, except the clarity where its not truly eye-clean. Maybe she would be happier with something more like G color and Excellent and not ideal, but a VS2 clarity?

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 5/6/2009 12:47:20 AM
Author: purrfectpear
I'm going to have to agree with your FI. Clearly you didn't know her that well.

Because you thought you were getting engaged to a woman who put the sentiment first and the ring second.
Sadly, as it turns out, she was all about the diamond and the ring.

For that, you have my sympathy.

It's not as though you presented some mall ring with frozen monkey spit. I took a good look at your GOG diamond at 40x. I think the ladies here need to realize that we aren't talking about some giant honking carbon spot

. Assuming I was still willing to marry someone like your FI, I would be sorely tempted to go to Tiffany's and purchase the smallest solitaire possible. She could lump it and sleep with the blue box as far as I would be concerned.

Lord, you and Danny are like peas in a pod PP. And no the alliteration wasn't intentional. Could people please stop telling this man that the woman he loves is not worthy of being loved because she didn't love the ring. If it's just a ring, it's just that A RING. So why is she shallow for having a problem with the ring, but he's on a pedestal just because he picked one out?

PP you're posts are really judgemental and downright rude sometimes. How do you know she's all about the ring? Do you know her? OBVIOUSLY he loves her, and yet... there you and Danny go trashing this woman, who has no ability to defend herself.

We're only hearing his side. What part of that are the two of you missing?

 

[HollyS]

She's unhappy because you can clearly see the inclusion in the center of the ring. It will bug people who are particular.

Maybe it shouldn't be so important. To her, it is. Will it hurt you to compromise, respecting how she feels about the visible flaw, and at least exchange the stone?

 

[EricaR]

Date: 5/6/2009 12:24:52 AM
Author: Gypsy
Look , here''s my advice.


Go talk to her. Don''t mention the word irrational. Ask her what would make her happy. Ask her where to go from here. And show her the tutorials you studied. Take her to GOG to meet Jonathan. And tell her that next time she wants something specific you would just appreciate knowing that... and going shopping for it together.


Also... you say: ''It wasn''t worth it'' in your opinion. But... it doesn''t sound like she ever really changed hers. And it sounds like in her opinoin, it was worth it. And either you didn''t hear that, or she didn''t make it clear. Or both. That''s a communication issue you guys need to work out. And... don''t look at this as all bad. You guys can become closer and stronger as a result of this, if you work it out and if both of you admit your errors, and learn from them. I mean that. Best of luck.

As always, I totally agree with Gypsy.

 

[honey22]

Sorry, but your FI sounds like a brat. She told you to do what you thought was best, you tried and no she has cracked it with you. Ok, maybe you should have gotten an eyeclean stone, but besides that, she should be happy with a freakin gorgeous stone and a stunning setting.

If she hadn''t have told you to do what you thought was best, and she was still clearly firm about a Tiffs ring, then I would be thinking you were a bit of a duffer, but in this case, she''s being a bit selfish I think.

You havn''t got her a frozen piece of spit that you put no thought into, you clearly spent time researching things and getting her a fabulous stone and a Mark Morrell setting - OMG, they blow Tiffs out of the water.

It sounds like she is unhappy that she doesn''t have Tiffany bragging rights, - who gives a crap. She should appreciate the thought (not to mention the huge amount of cash you just dropped). She could have handled this totally different. I can totally understand why you are upset.

Have you considered just taking the ring back if she is so unhappy with it?

 

[CPF0RY0U]

You purchased that diamond between 02/17/09 to 02/19/09. I should know, because I saw it on GoG's website on 02/17/09, thought about it for awhile, and when 02/20/09 came around, I e-mailed GoG to purchase it, and they told me they just sold it. What a small world ain't it?

She should know that there were other people (including myself) who would have wanted that diamond.
Also, what isn't on shown on GoG's website is that the diamond is a branded ISee2 diamond. It came with an ISee2 certificate, and you should direct her to the ISee2 website!

However, from what I see here is that she's hooked on Tiffany, as many girls are, and mainly those who do not fully understand diamonds. Sometimes, it's about the "image" as well.

If I were in your shoes, I likely would have went with a Tiffany inspired setting, and if the SI2 inclusion bugs her so much, an eye-clean SI1 or VS2 diamond. For the price you likely paid, you probably could have gotten a Tiffany inspired setting, and a 1.20 - 1.30 G VS2 or F SI1.

The GoG diamond comes with an upgrade policy. You can always trade up that diamond and pay a little more to upgrade to something slightly better? Now you just have to find a Tiffany inspired setting. If she's not happy with that, then my thoughts is that she's stuck up on the brand name, and maybe you should rethink your position.

After all, I have a friend with an eye clean 2.0 F SI2 and a Tiffany inspired setting. Because the diamond is a super ideal like most of GoG's (ACA, NiceIce, Wink, etc.) people think it's an actual Tiffany ring, and it passes off easily unless someone asks to inspect the inside of the ring for the Tiffany inscription. She might have wanted Tiffany at first, but when given the option for a genuine 1.3 F VS2 Tiffany ring vs. a 2.0 F SI2 fake that easily passes off as a Tiffany, I believe most women, once educated, would prefer the bigger diamond in this scenario.

Anyways, all said and done. Upgrade to this maybe? http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5250/
AND THEN find a Tiffany inspired setting.

That way, I can consider picking up the 1.35 F SI2 again.

 

[cara]

Fact is, Tiffany''s would not have sold you that stone. It may be a gorgeous, colorless fireball, but it is an SI2 with apparently eye-visible black inclusions. Tiffany''s does not sell SI2s for rings, so I can understand why your girlfriend might think you got an inferior product... Even if you may have gotten a less-well cut, lower color, smaller stone had you gone to Tiffany''s with your budget. But all the same, Tiffany''s has standards and one of the consequences to their standards is that they would not have sold you this stone.

In this regard, SHE IS NOT BEING IRRATIONAL.

I personally view clarity as a bar to get over for a stone in a ring: stone must be eyeclean in all viewing conditions when mounted. I suspect this stone wouldn''t meet that bar, for me, so I would prefer a smaller stone, a lower color stone, etc., to stay in budget and get an eyeclean stone. (I would not want a lower quality cut, however!)

From all the stuff posted on here about how cut masks imperfections and it can be difficult to see white clouds etc. I thought that I would be fine with a SI1 stone with white inclusions. But I can see the clouds in my HSI1, especially now that I have had years to stare at it! and I consider them a minor imperfection that I would have rather have done without in my stone - not a total dealbreaker, but now I know, for me, next time I would want a VS2 or a more eye-clean SI stone. But the near colorless H is AOK for me.

Last I sympathize with both you and her in this situation. Please don''t feel that this is a ruined proposal - she accepted! But see it is a communication opportunity on a difficult topic. The proposal is really fraught with all kinds of expectations and traditions and finality and it can be too much to keep everyone calm and talking well. I do think that sometimes it *is* worth just getting what someone wants without second guessing them, but that is a lesson for future purchases. Just try to make this one right, rather then think it is ''ruined'' cause the ring wasn''t perfect from the get-go. If its the stone causing her angst, see what GOG can do about a trade. Really.

 

[bowral1]

Ditto Gypsy’s comment. Your FI is not shallow for wanting a nice eye clean ring.
You know her better than anyone, you know her personality. If this is common . . . . . then you have a problem.
***A reminder to everyone that only the two people in the relationship really knows what’s going on, and we cant really pass judgment on either side.

 

[purrfectpear]

Date: 5/6/2009 12:51:55 AM
Author: Gypsy

Date: 5/6/2009 12:47:20 AM
Author: purrfectpear
I''m going to have to agree with your FI. Clearly you didn''t know her that well.

Because you thought you were getting engaged to a woman who put the sentiment first and the ring second.
Sadly, as it turns out, she was all about the diamond and the ring.

For that, you have my sympathy.

It''s not as though you presented some mall ring with frozen monkey spit. I took a good look at your GOG diamond at 40x. I think the ladies here need to realize that we aren''t talking about some giant honking carbon spot

. Assuming I was still willing to marry someone like your FI, I would be sorely tempted to go to Tiffany''s and purchase the smallest solitaire possible. She could lump it and sleep with the blue box as far as I would be concerned.

Lord, you and Danny are like peas in a pod PP. And no the alliteration wasn''t intentional. Could people please stop telling this man that the woman he loves is not worthy of being loved because she didn''t love the ring. If it''s just a ring, it''s just that A RING. So why is she shallow for having a problem with the ring, but he''s on a pedestal just because he picked one out?

PP you''re posts are really judgemental and downright rude sometimes. How do you know she''s all about the ring? Do you know her? OBVIOUSLY he loves her, and yet... there you and Danny go trashing this woman, who has no ability to defend herself.

We''re only hearing his side. What part of that are the two of you missing?

Of course she put the ring before his feelings, otherwise she wouldn''t have made the man feel like crap. He will decide for himself if she''s worthy of love. I just posted how I would feel about it (which IS what he asked). You feel differently. Fine. Is there some reason why you INSIST that everyone has to see it as you do? There are 3 people on this thread who don''t. Big deal. Of course I''m only hearing his side. Do you think she''s going to say "I loved it, he made it all up"? She said she thought his e-ring was an insult. It doesn''t take a lot of interpretation to see that she was all about her and not thinking of him at all.

 

[kama_s]

Well, this is something I haven't really shared with anyone, including my closest friends and family. But I thought it might help you and give you a bit of perspective (I hope).

When Mr. Kama proposed to me (the proposal was so incredibly thoughtful and romantic), I was REALLY not happy with my ring. The ring was NOTHING like I wanted. I didn't have any particular wants, except wanting something thin and dainty with a solitaire. I ended up getting a chunky ring and the prongs were crooked. AND there was a gap between the prongs and the ring, so I was very concerned about the stone falling off. When we asked the guy to fix it, he used white glue to close the gap and gave it back to me

and said I was being too nitpicky. To add to that, my ring is a 1.5 G SI2 with visible inclusions. I also thought he paid at least 3K more than he should have. Anyways, I wasn't happy with the setting or the diamond.

A few days after the engagement when we'd settled down a bit from the excitement, I brought up the topic gently. He was VERY very very sad, he thought he had done a crappy job at getting me a ring I would love, he was embarrassed and was very hard on himself. I had to repeatedly tell him that it's just a ring and does not reflect our relationship, and that it's not something he should take personally. We had a few heart to heart convos, we listened to each other and talked about our concerns like mature, rational adults. In the end we decided to get me another setting and we had our jeweler make us an inexpensive simple setting in white gold (we sold the platinum from the initial e-ring and the total cost was around 400$). And I never ever brought up the diamond again. Yes, it has flaws. But not hurting his feelings is more important to me. And you know, I've come to love my ring, flaws et al. I like to think of it as our relationship - has it's own flaws, but just perfect for the two of us. And he is so glad we ended up changing the setting because it makes him incredibly happy to see me staring at my ring, happy and content.

Anyways, what I'm trying to get at is that you two need to sit down and find a middle ground. Compromise is key. You want her to be happy with the ring, to look at it with fondness and love. If you can upgrade to eyeclean SI1 and keep the setting, then that would be a great ending to the issue. This experience can help you both grow together, learn how to deal with millions of similar situations in your married life and get even closer and happier.

 

[E B]

I agree with the others in that she's not out of line for wanting something eye-clean. A visible inclusion on the table would bug me too.

That said, her reaction to something you put a lot of time, effort, and love into was completely inappropriate, IMO. Reacting with anger, telling you 'you don't know her well enough to get her something like that' and 'you got ripped off' (while comparing to Tiffany- what a laugh!)? Ridiculous and hurtful. You have every right to be upset as well.

You took a chance, one MANY PSers urge men to take (online vendor, bigger stone, eye-clean SI2, bla bla bla). It wasn't the right one in this case, as some have better vision than others, but is isn't as though you walked into Kay's Jewelers and picked the first ring you saw in the display case.

If she likes the setting but wishes for a cleaner stone, trade it in. But don't beat yourself up over her reaction. She could have handled it much more gracefully.

p.s. FWIW, the GOG photo makes the diamond look pretty darn eye-clean to me.

 

[Gypsy]

PP, 3 people have disagreed with me. I only had issue with two of them. ONE of them said that the OP should reconsider his proposal and the other said that she's shallow materialistic and unworthy of love. So ... ya gotta wonder. Why was I fine with honey's post? Well, maybe it's because she didn't cross the line and start assuming the woman's character was the issue. Instead she focused on her actions in this case. Whereas both you and Danny went right to burning her at the stake.

But you're right, public forum. If someone wants to string a voodoo doll of her up and burn it in effigy they could.

Here's the substance though. You said she put her feelings before his. So she's a terrible person. Well, again. It cuts both ways. He decided Tiffany's wasn't worth it. His opinion. And he put his feelings before hers. Plus, it's not eyeclean, and he SAYS he thought she would just deal with it. Again, he put himself before her. I think actually there is more evidence of his selfishness than hers in this thread.

Because you know what? THE OP NEVER GAVE US THE TIMELINE OF HER RESPONSE.

I really do agree with Ebree... IF she objected immeidately upon seeing the ring, in the midst of the proposal and caused a fuss... she behaved badly-- and you might be right PP. But if it was instead like Kama's case where she waited and told him afterward... well, he admits he yelled at her when she told him she wasn't happy with it. Both of their tempers got the better of them. So, again, in that case, they would both to blame. But again... we don't know what really happened. We only have his perspective. In which HE ADMITS that he put his feeling before hers.

Personally, it sounds like the two of them can't communicate effectively and are both guilty of putting their own needs in front of the others.

And Kama, I think you handled a difficult situation with much grace.

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 5/6/2009 1:11:23 AM
Author: purrfectpear

Date: 5/6/2009 12:51:55 AM
Author: Gypsy

Date: 5/6/2009 12:47:20 AM
Author: purrfectpear
I''m going to have to agree with your FI. Clearly you didn''t know her that well.

Because you thought you were getting engaged to a woman who put the sentiment first and the ring second.
Sadly, as it turns out, she was all about the diamond and the ring.

For that, you have my sympathy.

It''s not as though you presented some mall ring with frozen monkey spit. I took a good look at your GOG diamond at 40x. I think the ladies here need to realize that we aren''t talking about some giant honking carbon spot

. Assuming I was still willing to marry someone like your FI, I would be sorely tempted to go to Tiffany''s and purchase the smallest solitaire possible. She could lump it and sleep with the blue box as far as I would be concerned.

Lord, you and Danny are like peas in a pod PP. And no the alliteration wasn''t intentional. Could people please stop telling this man that the woman he loves is not worthy of being loved because she didn''t love the ring. If it''s just a ring, it''s just that A RING. So why is she shallow for having a problem with the ring, but he''s on a pedestal just because he picked one out?

PP you''re posts are really judgemental and downright rude sometimes. How do you know she''s all about the ring? Do you know her? OBVIOUSLY he loves her, and yet... there you and Danny go trashing this woman, who has no ability to defend herself.

We''re only hearing his side. What part of that are the two of you missing?

Of course she put the ring before his feelings, otherwise she wouldn''t have made the man feel like crap. He will decide for himself if she''s worthy of love. I just posted how I would feel about it (which IS what he asked). You feel differently. Fine. Is there some reason why you INSIST that everyone has to see it as you do? There are 3 people on this thread who don''t. Big deal. Of course I''m only hearing his side. Do you think she''s going to say ''I loved it, he made it all up''? She said she thought his e-ring was an insult. It doesn''t take a lot of interpretation to see that she was all about her and not thinking of him at all.

I''m joining the "she''s being irrational" camp, so add me in as number 4. Not because she would have wanted an eye clean stone. Who doesn''t. But so soon after the proposal to make this such an issue, and if what you are saying is true, with so little thought? Boy, sad.

I went and took a look at the stone. Even at 40 mag I couldn''t easily find the inclusion until I looked at the photo Holly posted.

But whatever. Get her what she wants and sacrifice size. Something''s got to give. You have a budget and you worked with it. Buy her a vvs stone and see what she thinks. I think she''d miss her SI2.

BTW, is she by chance Asian? Some of them go ballistic over clarity issues because it''s a cultural thing.

 

[Gypsy]

Don't have a problem with you either T-gal. You said 'she's BEING irrational"... not dump her, she's a horrible person, you never knew her, and she's unworthy of love.

There's a difference.

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 5/6/2009 1:39:05 AM
Author: Gypsy
PP, 3 people have disagreed with me. I only had issue with two of them. ONE of them said that the OP should reconsider his proposal and the other said that she''s shallow materialistic and unworthy of love. So ... ya gotta wonder. Why was I fine with honey''s post? Well, maybe it''s because she didn''t cross the line and start assuming the woman''s character was the issue. Instead she focused on her actions in this case. Whereas both you and Danny went right to burning her at the stake.

But your right, public forum. If someone wants to string a voodoo doll of her up and burn it in effigy they could.

Here''s the substance though. You said she put her feelings before his. So she''s a terrible person. Well, again. It cuts both ways. He decided Tiffany''s wasn''t worth it. His opinion. And he put his feelings before hers. Plus, it''s not eyeclean, and he SAYS he thought she would just deal with it. Again, he put himself before her. I think actually there is more evidence of his selfsihness than hers in this thread.

Because you know what? THE OP NEVER GAVE US THE TIMELINE OF HER RESPONSE.

I really do agree with Ebree... from the OPs post. IF she objected immeidately upon seeing the ring, and caused a fuss... she behaved badly-- and you might be right PP. But if it was instead like Kama''s case where she waited and toild him afterward... well, he admits he yelled at her when she told him she wasn''t happy with it. Both of their tempers got the better of them. So, again. They are both to blame.

Personally, it sounds like the two of them can''t communicate effectively and are both guilty of putting their own needs in front of the others.

And Kama, I think you handled a difficult situation with much grace.

Oh pah. It''s not like he didn''t want to spend any money on her. Seems like he did a ton of research and bought a ring that he thought would be better with the budget he had.

Sorry, I''m still old fashioned enough to think the bottom line is the e-ring is a gift. Now, if it''s freaking ugly, then the recipient has every right to not be thrilled about the gift, perhaps not wearing it. But to throw a tanty because it''s not the gift you wanted? This is, of course, assuming she threw a tanty.

I do agree though, it really depends on how she reacted. I think it''s fine to bring it up to say it''s not your style in a considerate way much after the fact. Anything to the effect of "how DARE you think that I would wear SUCH a ring?" Well, then I''m with PP and ImDanny...I''d ditch the b*tch.

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 5/6/2009 1:46:04 AM
Author: Gypsy
Don''t have a problem with you either T-gal. You said ''she''s BEING irrational''... not dump her, she''s a horrible person, you never knew her, and she''s unworthy of love.

There''s a difference.

Hehe, I just said it in my last post. Got a beef with me now? Put''em up!

 

[Diamond Confused]

I''m sorry about what happened. I can imagine you feel disappointed and disillusioned.

It sounds like she wanted tiffany''s. For some people the name is very important. I am a louboutin wearing, balenciaga bag carrying name brand whore. I don''t think I could have been happy with anything but a Tiffany, cariter etc E-ring. My fiance knew that and knew that I would rather have diamond dust from Tiffany''s than a 2 carat no name ring. I think that''s what your FI meant about not knowing her. She did mislead you by saying she left it up to you though. I made it very clear so I would not be disappointed.

I understand where she''s coming from and feel badly fo both of you. I know most people probably think she''s selfish and ungrateful but if you can afford tiffs, that''s what you should have purchased. I only think it''s selfish when it''s out of someone''s reach financially.

 

[Circe]

Loaded thread! With all due respect, I''m going to ignore the interpersonal poster stuff and focus on the OP ....

Dude, an eye-visible inclusion dead-center in the middle of the table that you "figured that she would be able to live with?" You took a risk, and it didn''t play out. From your more recent posts, you''re ready to meet her halfway, and I *applaud* that, because at the end of the day, it''s just a ring. Should you have gambled quite that big knowing she was a Tiffany-loving perfectionist? Nope. Should she have gone off on you as if you''d kicked her puppy when you gave her a gift? Also nope ... but the difference is, you *knew* how she felt, whereas, from what I can tell in your past posts, she hasn''t really known a great deal about your logic in going about all this.

Give her the benefit of the doubt. Assume she''s frustrated that she''d tried to "hint" as to what she likes and where to get a deal and (like most name-brand people) hasn''t heard of the smaller artisans like MWM, rather than that she''s being greedy, get an eye-clean stone that you both love, get married, and live happily ever after. I say this as someone who loves jewelry, but it is *just a ring.* Now, give her and you a break ....

 

[Gypsy]

You want some of this??? Huh, huh? Do ya, do ya??? Think you're tough T-gal??? Huh, huh??

Well....


YOU DON'T GET IT. Because you qualified what you said (the same way I did), IF she threw a tantrum and said, "How dare you get something so unworthy of me you peasant" then, PP might be right. I don't disagree with that. And in fact, I said it myself, that given more information about HOW it happened, PP might be right.

My only point is, WE DON'T KNOW. He didn't tell us.

And for the record... I woulda moidered ya!

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 5/6/2009 1:57:34 AM
Author: Gypsy

You want some of this??? Huh, huh? Do ya, do ya??? Think you''re tough T-gal??? Huh, huh??

Well....


YOU DON''T GET IT. Because you qualified what you did (the same way I did), IF she threw a tantrum and said, ''How dare you get something so unworthy of me you peasant'' then, PP might be right. I don''t disagree with that. And in fact, I said it myself, that given HOW it happened, PP might be right.

My only point is, WE DON''T KNOW. He didn''t tell us.

And for the record... I woulda moidered ya!

Not. A. Chance.

I am not above using my child as a diversion and attacking.

That being said, I think reactions to a situation like this are very telling. Personally I don''t see why men either bother with us women sometimes. Just do what most men of PS women do...hand over the credit card and let us design things to the very last detail. Forget about trying to figure it out yourself. It will only lead to heartache, and we all know men are insensitive bastards anyway.

 

[strmrdr]

my 2c...
If she was a rational adult about it and discussed it with you, upgrade to a different stone and suck it up.

If she was a $$$!$@$^ about it then kick her to the curb and give the ring to the dog to wear.

 

[TravelingGal]

Oh, and to the OP. I would have absolutely been offended IF:

- She made no mention about clarity being an issue beforehand
- She agreed that I should do what I thought was best and was aware there was a possibility of something other than Tiffany
- I sincerely thought I got the best ring I could for her, with the SI2 being the sacrifice to get more sparkle and size
- The setting I got her wasn''t too far off from what she wanted
- If she made a stink about it shortly after the engagement

 

[Gypsy]

T-gal ...And I don't know why we bother with men sometimes. LOL. But we do, and they do. And as a very happily married woman, I can't complain about that. At all.

You would use Amelia wouldn't you? I'd sic Lucy and Hally on you. Okay, well. I'd sic them on each other NEAR you (which just means that I'll leave them unattended for a split second) and that would be enough. I'd win. You'd take Amelia and RUN to get away from the freak show zoo that my two girls are.


ETA: For the record, my husband doesn't hand over the credit card. We each have our own.

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 5/6/2009 2:11:59 AM
Author: Gypsy
T-gal ...And I don''t know why we bother with men sometimes. LOL. But we do, and they do. And as a very happily married woman, I can''t complain about that. At all.

You would use Amelia wouldn''t you? I''d sic Lucy and Hally on you. Okay, well. I''d sic them on each other NEAR you (which just means that I''ll leave them unattended for a split second) and that would be enough. I''d win. You''d take Amelia and RUN to get away from the freak show zoo that my two girls are.

You win. I hate cats. They try to kill me since I''m allergic.

OK, I don''t *hate* cats, but I hate what they do to me. I''m a dog lover, I must admit.

Again to the OP, I should have realized this stone sounded familiar.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/just-bought-stone-from-gog-should-i-get-appraisal.108416/

I posted back then that your stone combo is one I''d love to have. My stone also has a booger under the table. Especially now that I have a kid, I have a special fondness for boogers.

 

[Dancing Fire]

c''mon ladies be reasonable...
you mean to tell me that if you ask your BF for a HW E-ring you would then expect a HW ?

or else you''ll be all Piss off ?

i am not talking about clarity here just the brand vs unbranded.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 5/6/2009 12:36:00 AM
Author: cdogstu99
Gypsy, Bliss..i think you put in perspective for me. I think maybe i made a bad decision, that i need to essentially own up to it and just trade it in for an eye clean stone. Thanks for the help.

IMO...forget about SI stones. you should talk to Jon about upgrading to a VS clarity stone.

 

[CharmyPoo]

Date: 5/6/2009 2:20:23 AM
Author: Dancing Fire
you mean to tell me that if you ask your BF for a HW E-ring you would then expect a HW ?

or else you''ll be all Piss off ?

i am not talking about clarity here just the brand vs unbranded.

I asked for a 1.5 million Tiffany ring and I didn''t get it. That''s why I am not marrying him. I am still pretty pissed off about it.

 

[sazza]

Date: 5/6/2009 2:08:41 AM
Author: strmrdr
my 2c...

If she was a rational adult about it and discussed it with you, upgrade to a different stone and suck it up.


If she was a $$$!$@$^ about it then kick her to the curb and give the ring to the dog to wear.

Dude, if you decide to give it to the dog to wear can I volunteer to be your dog?

MWM is pretty much the only solitaire that has ever made my heart skip a beat and that stone is a stunner and quite frankly, my vision isn''t great anyway!

WOOF.