pink diamond lover
Shiny_Rock
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I bought, what i was told, was a GIA certified Argyle pink diamond that has the Argyle # on the GIA certificate but not on the stone.
When i first purchased the stone about 10 years ago, I took it to an Reputable Jeweler and had an appraisal done, along with mounting the stone on a ring. When i went to pick up the ring and the Appraisal I noticed that beside the Laser Inscribed: it read "Unable to locate inscription after mounting." This greatly concerned me and I wanted them to unmount it to verify the inscription, as this should have been verified before they mounted it. I bought the diamond from a company in Israel so it was very important to me to make sure that i received what i paid for. The manager of this Big, Independent Store explained to me that the GIA certificate and their Appraisal matched. That meant it had to be the diamond i paid for because Pink diamonds are so rare, that it would be impossible for it to be any other stone and convinced me that it didn't matter that the inscription couldn't be seen....it had to be there. I trusted her advise and the person who sold me the diamond so i left it at that as i didn't want to risk any damage to the diamond by having it unmounted and then remounted to verify something that had to be.
Now, it is 10 years later. I decided i wanted to sell the diamond and found a buyer in Australia. They would buy the ring upon their jeweler verifying the Argyle number inscribed on the diamond as I wasn't given an Argyle Certificate. All i had was was the GIA certificate with the Argyle # on it. They agreed that if i sent them the ring, they would unmount the diamond, verify the inscription and then send the ring back to me and put the money into my bank account. Simple enough.
I decided, since the appraisal should have verified the inscription when i had it appraised i thought it would be best if i took it back to them and have them remove and verify it. Then i would only have to send them the diamond and i would have peace of mind that the inscription was verified before i spent 2,000 to have it insured and sent to Buyer in Australia. To my horror, they could not find an inscription # lasered on the diamond. They had 3 different experts examine the diamond. They concluded, without removing the diamond from the setting, that it would be impossible for all the numbers to be hidden by 4 little claws. They again assured me that the diamond they examined from me and the one on the GIA report had to be the same as the mapping all matched. When I looked up the Argyle # on the GIA report, the Argyle report also matches the GIA Certificate and visual inspection. They told me that they have had diamonds shipped to their store that were supposed to be inscribed that weren't so they said it does happen and should be an easy fix. They just returned the diamond to the seller and the seller had GIA inscribe the # onto the diamond and shipped it back to the buyer.
I sent a letter to my buyer in Australia, who specializes in Argyle Pink Diamonds, and explained what happened. They explained that the inscription was not made by GIA, is was inscribed by the Argyle mine which has been closed since November 2020. With no Original Argyle mine certificate or lazer inscription on the diamond they would not buy it. They could not understand why there was no inscription on the diamond when it was on the GIA certificate.
I am so confused and i don't know what to do next. On one hand i am being told that even though the inscription is not on the diamond for whatever reason (human error?) the GIA certificate, duplicate copy of Argyle certificate and visual expert option by GIA certified gemologist that the mapping all match should be enough. Buyer however, says that without the inscription on the diamond to match the # on the GIA certificate it can't be validated.
Expert Argyle pink diamond experts, PLEASE, help me understand how this can all be. I feel it would have been impossible for the person who sold it to me, to not have known that their was no inscription on the diamond. Why does everything match but their is no inscription? Why isn't the information that i have enough to validate my diamond as an authentic Argyle pink diamond without the inscription? Does this mean that i have been defrauded out of 10's of thousands of $$? Does any have any solutions to this problem or idea's how it can be rectified?
I am suffer from chronic depression and anxiety and I just can't figure this all out!! I am completely overwhelmed. I took all my money out of my RRSP's 10 years ago to invest in this diamond for my retirement. Everyone thought i was crazy when i bought it and I was so close to showing that it was smart investment after all..... and now it has all fallen apart. It is all I have. There just has to be a solution somewhere.
When i first purchased the stone about 10 years ago, I took it to an Reputable Jeweler and had an appraisal done, along with mounting the stone on a ring. When i went to pick up the ring and the Appraisal I noticed that beside the Laser Inscribed: it read "Unable to locate inscription after mounting." This greatly concerned me and I wanted them to unmount it to verify the inscription, as this should have been verified before they mounted it. I bought the diamond from a company in Israel so it was very important to me to make sure that i received what i paid for. The manager of this Big, Independent Store explained to me that the GIA certificate and their Appraisal matched. That meant it had to be the diamond i paid for because Pink diamonds are so rare, that it would be impossible for it to be any other stone and convinced me that it didn't matter that the inscription couldn't be seen....it had to be there. I trusted her advise and the person who sold me the diamond so i left it at that as i didn't want to risk any damage to the diamond by having it unmounted and then remounted to verify something that had to be.
Now, it is 10 years later. I decided i wanted to sell the diamond and found a buyer in Australia. They would buy the ring upon their jeweler verifying the Argyle number inscribed on the diamond as I wasn't given an Argyle Certificate. All i had was was the GIA certificate with the Argyle # on it. They agreed that if i sent them the ring, they would unmount the diamond, verify the inscription and then send the ring back to me and put the money into my bank account. Simple enough.
I decided, since the appraisal should have verified the inscription when i had it appraised i thought it would be best if i took it back to them and have them remove and verify it. Then i would only have to send them the diamond and i would have peace of mind that the inscription was verified before i spent 2,000 to have it insured and sent to Buyer in Australia. To my horror, they could not find an inscription # lasered on the diamond. They had 3 different experts examine the diamond. They concluded, without removing the diamond from the setting, that it would be impossible for all the numbers to be hidden by 4 little claws. They again assured me that the diamond they examined from me and the one on the GIA report had to be the same as the mapping all matched. When I looked up the Argyle # on the GIA report, the Argyle report also matches the GIA Certificate and visual inspection. They told me that they have had diamonds shipped to their store that were supposed to be inscribed that weren't so they said it does happen and should be an easy fix. They just returned the diamond to the seller and the seller had GIA inscribe the # onto the diamond and shipped it back to the buyer.
I sent a letter to my buyer in Australia, who specializes in Argyle Pink Diamonds, and explained what happened. They explained that the inscription was not made by GIA, is was inscribed by the Argyle mine which has been closed since November 2020. With no Original Argyle mine certificate or lazer inscription on the diamond they would not buy it. They could not understand why there was no inscription on the diamond when it was on the GIA certificate.
I am so confused and i don't know what to do next. On one hand i am being told that even though the inscription is not on the diamond for whatever reason (human error?) the GIA certificate, duplicate copy of Argyle certificate and visual expert option by GIA certified gemologist that the mapping all match should be enough. Buyer however, says that without the inscription on the diamond to match the # on the GIA certificate it can't be validated.
Expert Argyle pink diamond experts, PLEASE, help me understand how this can all be. I feel it would have been impossible for the person who sold it to me, to not have known that their was no inscription on the diamond. Why does everything match but their is no inscription? Why isn't the information that i have enough to validate my diamond as an authentic Argyle pink diamond without the inscription? Does this mean that i have been defrauded out of 10's of thousands of $$? Does any have any solutions to this problem or idea's how it can be rectified?
I am suffer from chronic depression and anxiety and I just can't figure this all out!! I am completely overwhelmed. I took all my money out of my RRSP's 10 years ago to invest in this diamond for my retirement. Everyone thought i was crazy when i bought it and I was so close to showing that it was smart investment after all..... and now it has all fallen apart. It is all I have. There just has to be a solution somewhere.