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In dire need of the communities expertise in hunting a Diamond for an engagment.

Sunset viewer it sounds like they will have it on hold for one of you, whoever asked first I am guessing so don’t worry they will sort it out. I personally would take a risk of the DK stone OP, and then you both have good choices :).
 
sunsetviewer said:
I realized I sounded like I think i should have first dibs on the stone, and I don’t want to assume anything. I guess we’ll have to see what happened on their end, and go from there. Who knew diamond searching could be this stressful?:(2 =)2
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No worries Sunsetviewer, this happens a lot, it's not the same thing at all! It'll work out, whoever gets this diamond is meant to have it and you'll both end up with superb diamonds for sure.

I found this particular stone and suggested it to the OP from the listings but it could be reserved in actual fact.
 
sunsetviewer said:
So...., I have a thread up about that GoG H SI2 that I posted earlier today, and I asked them to put a hold on it for me which they did before I posted. I really don’t want to make any waves, but it seems I technically did it before the OP asked to reserve it, (if you look at the time posted) and as I read this message after it happened and I was keeping close tabs on the message board to see replies to my post. I did send a message to GoG to try to clear it up but it is after hours so will have to wait. I just don’t want it to seem like I snagged it out from under the OP when that is not what happened. I understand misunderstandings can happen and I hope it can be resolved satisfactorily. I want to keep posting about my future ring so didn’t want there to be any confusion, sorry to stir things up a bit!:(2
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sunsetviewer said:
I realized I sounded like I think i should have first dibs on the stone, and I don’t want to assume anything. I guess we’ll have to see what happened on their end, and go from there. Who knew diamond searching could be this stressful?:(2 =)2
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This is rather awkward. Is it normal for a online merchant to put a diamond on hold with multiple people? Can you please confirm if you have actually placed this diamond on hold, did you receive an invoice? I'd like to see the time the hold was placed for you. If you placed the item on hold before I did, then by all means. The Diamond is for you to decide on first. But do tell me if you decide to pass on it. Thanks!

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I believe there may have been a miscommunication between yourself and GOG. AFAIK you have to 'purchase' the diamond to put it on hold with GOG, they do not temporarily block it off.

I believe you may have thought you had it on hold but actually it was not done, as it would be done through your ordering of the diamond, as Gadabout44 has done.

You may want to clarify why you weren't clearly informed of this at the time. I may be completely wrong but this does ring a bell.

sunsetviewer said:
So...., I have a thread up about that GoG H SI2 that I posted earlier today, and I asked them to put a hold on it for me which they did before I posted. I really don’t want to make any waves, but it seems I technically did it before the OP asked to reserve it, (if you look at the time posted) and as I read this message after it happened and I was keeping close tabs on the message board to see replies to my post. I did send a message to GoG to try to clear it up but it is after hours so will have to wait. I just don’t want it to seem like I snagged it out from under the OP when that is not what happened. I understand misunderstandings can happen and I hope it can be resolved satisfactorily. I want to keep posting about my future ring so didn’t want there to be any confusion, sorry to stir things up a bit!:(2
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gm89uk, you are correct. There was a miscommunication. I would never has posted about it if I thought it was not on a hold. Bad luck I guess,
 
sunsetviewer said:
gm89uk, you are correct. There was a miscommunication. I would never has posted about it if I thought it was not on a hold. Bad luck I guess,
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Sunset would you like to purchase it? I have it on hold for a couple days. However I spoke to GOG and they said that there are a few others who are also inquiring. If you are serious about purchasing, let me know and we can coordinate. I will release the hold and you can call in right away
 
Gadsbout44,
That is very kind of you. I did want to purchase it however I don’t want to rush your decision. My last post was brief as I was in a hurry, so I hope it didn’t sound like sour grapes. You have it on hold so I respect your time to make a decision. If you decide against it they will contact me, but if you decide to keep it I will be glad that someone is enjoying it,
Thanks and best wishes
 
sunsetviewer said:
Gadsbout44,
That is very kind of you. I did want to purchase it however I don’t want to rush your decision. My last post was brief as I was in a hurry, so I hope it didn’t sound like sour grapes. You have it on hold so I respect your time to make a decision. If you decide against it they will contact me, but if you decide to keep it I will be glad that someone is enjoying it,
Thanks and best wishes
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Thank you Sunset. It did not sound like sour grapes at all, you were very polite. I will be honest I am up in the air with this one. GOG is very great at getting back to my inquiries. I've asked them to compare the stone to a GIA H, they sent me pictures with both the AGS H Stone as well as a GIA H stone and have concluded it is somewhere in between a GIA H and a GIA I. They did notice some "warmth" through the naked eye in comparison to the GIA H.

I will admit, it does bother me as I was kind of reluctant to go for a GIA I grade diamond to begin with. Anyways, here are the photos I'd like to share with you. I should be able to make a decision by Friday. The diamond is on hold until Saturday.

If I decide to not purchase, I will private message you to let you know and we can coordinate a time of the day where I can release the hold for you to call in right away.

Anyone, feel free to chime in. I would gladly read your opinions.

AGS H Left GIA H Right 1.jpg AGS H Left GIA H Right 2.jpg
 
There is no pm on this board. A lot of us post a listing on Loupetroop to share our email.
 
May I have everyone's opinion on the following diamonds:

1)$7,800, JA said it is eye clean, clouds and surface graining are not visible to naked eye. Still concern about the clouds hindering the fire. (Ive placed this on hold). Waiting on Idealscope
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...f-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4693743

2) $6,800 1.45 I-SI2. Large and shiny" Some sprinkles on table, Eye clean. Main inclusion in girdle area which can be covered with a prong. Imperfections you might pick up with a magnified camera.
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=2276467740

Pictures, and video link below.
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Sorry I've not been around much in the last day and am just now seeing your post. I just think it's nice to balance quality when you are looking for a well cut diamond. I'd personally rather have a smaller VS2-SI1 diamond than SI2, but if you are 100% certain that size is the primary thing that will make your future fiancee happy, then I can see why you are considering low clarity.

I wouldn't go to I SI2 when that stone is well under your diamond budget.

Here are some more choices.

This is a GIA I VS2 True Hearts with strong fluorescence, and it is likely B2C or ID Jewelry would beat this price. Or you can ask JA what their bottom line price is and see if they will go lower.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...color-vs2-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-4309056

This looks like a nice stone even though the depth is a little over my usual limit. It still faces up at 7mm and is H color. Again, see if someone will beat the price.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4589782
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
Sorry I've not been around much in the last day and am just now seeing your post. I just think it's nice to balance quality when you are looking for a well cut diamond. I'd personally rather have a smaller VS2-SI1 diamond than SI2, but if you are 100% certain that size is the primary thing that will make your future fiancee happy, then I can see why you are considering low clarity.

I wouldn't go to I SI2 when that stone is well under your diamond budget.

Here are some more choices.

This is a GIA I VS2 True Hearts with strong fluorescence, and it is likely B2C or ID Jewelry would beat this price. Or you can ask JA what their bottom line price is and see if they will go lower.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...color-vs2-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-4309056

This looks like a nice stone even though the depth is a little over my usual limit. It still faces up at 7mm and is H color. Again, see if someone will beat the price.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4589782
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You’re right. At this point perhaps i won’t find anything I’m satisfied with with my current budget. I’m willing to go as low as 1.25 carats with fire / shine as the main priority. And color second. My GF is able to notice the warmth especially with an I colored stone. But that’s because she compared it to a D graded stone. To my knowledge if a diamond is producing exceptional fire / shine then an “ I “ color diamond should appear colorless especially from TJ top view. Is this right? I can also increase my budget to $9,000 but not a dollar more. My main objective is to truly get the best bang for my buck
 
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Gadabout44 said:
You’re right. At this point perhaps i won’t find anything I’m satisfied with my budget. I’m willing to go as low as 1.25 carats with fire / shine as the main priority. And color second. My GF is able to notice the warmth especially with an I colored stone. I can also increase my budget to $9,000 but not a dollar more.
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OP what kind of setting do you have in mind?
 
SimoneDi said:
OP what kind of setting do you have in mind?
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Nothing in particular. DKJ was going to discuss that with me. Was looking into a channel or pave. I had a cathedral style in mind but to be honest haven’t put too much thought.
 
I personally wouldn't waste the time requesting the idealscope for that JA stone as you can tell it's not going to be a good performer from the video (you only get 3).
 
Okay, if she likes higher color, I would focus on G-H.

This one they own and have in-house, so you don't have to worry about it being listed on many sites and having it be unavailable. I would also have them set the stone as they have an excellent selection and you won't go through the hassle of sending it elsewhere.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970287.htm

If you want to take the risk of trying vendors who have virtual inventory with many vendors listing the same stones, here are a couple that I'd recommend. When I go to their site, there is an option to sign up to get $1000 off (a setting, I think), so I would also use this vendor for the setting. We can help you with settings from either vendor once you get a stone.

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R138-691798Z54? (Great option if they can verify this stone is eyeclean, great numbers)

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R130-5Z4Z19Z43?

What sometimes happens is others see recommendations here and reserve the stones. If you are interested in the Enchanted Diamonds stones, call them now and reserve. Their prices are low so no need to do price comps. But I'd get them to hold both stones in hopes of getting one of them.
 
Gadabout44 said:
My GF is able to notice the warmth especially with an I colored stone. But that’s because she compared it to a D graded stone. To my knowledge if a diamond is producing exceptional fire / shine then an “ I “ color diamond should appear colorless especially from TJ top view. Is this right?
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I hope you read the below with the kindly and old wise gal tone intended. I did not re-read your story from the beginning, so this may be "settled".

You did the wise thing and had your GF go look at diamond colors. She could see a D vs. I. Presumably, she did not like the tint of the I. You can't assume she would not have seen the tint of the I independent of the D as a comparison. I would actually assume she is more color acute and can see the subtle body color in diamonds.

Since this is a gift for her, I'm going to advocate for you to place her preferences first. So, I would NOT buy her an I or low H. If she wanted a colorless stone + 1.25 c in size, then I think you need to have a chat with her about her priorities. Color or size. If you don't want to spoil the surprise, I'd personally stick with G and maybe high H, then adjust clarity and size to fit your budget.

Super-ideal diamonds down into I (and even down to a K) can look white from the top.. There are many fine examples here in PS member's hands. But, that exceptional cut does not mask the side, which is the angle she will see most of the time (technically I think the most color is visible at a 45 degree tilt). Most PS members have made a deliberate and informed personal choice to go lower in color in favor of clarity or size within the super-ideal. None have regretted it (or at least posted about it!). But, here, you are making the choice for another person. Unless you already had the size vs. color "talk", you don't know her preference.

You can use the style of the head to make that view less, but the fundamental body color of the stone will remain.

Just think carefully and, if it was up to me, I'd tell you to talk to your girl.
 
rockysalamander said:
I hope you read the below with the kindly and old wise gal tone intended. I did not re-read your story from the beginning, so this may be "settled".

You did the wise thing and had your GF go look at diamond colors. She could see a D vs. I. Presumably, she did not like the tint of the I. You can't assume she would not have seen the tint of the I independent of the D as a comparison. I would actually assume she is more color acute and can see the subtle body color in diamonds.

Since this is a gift for her, I'm going to advocate for you to place her preferences first. So, I would NOT buy her an I or low H. If she wanted a colorless stone + 1.25 c in size, then I think you need to have a chat with her about her priorities. Color or size. If you don't want to spoil the surprise, I'd personally stick with G and maybe high H, then adjust clarity and size to fit your budget.

Super-ideal diamonds down into I (and even down to a K) can look white from the top.. There are many fine examples here in PS member's hands. But, that exceptional cut does not mask the side, which is the angle she will see most of the time (technically I think the most color is visible at a 45 degree tilt). Most PS members have made a deliberate and informed personal choice to go lower in color in favor of clarity or size within the super-ideal. None have regretted it (or at least posted about it!). But, here, you are making the choice for another person. Unless you already had the size vs. color "talk", you don't know her preference.

You can use the style of the head to make that view less, but the fundamental body color of the stone will remain.

Just think carefully and, if it was up to me, I'd tell you to talk to your girl.
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Wise words.

If a DEF is what she wants, I'd not get her an I personally, especially as now she's seen warmth when compared to a D, it might never be ' mind clean' for her. I'd have a chat about it and see what her preferences are, you want her to be completely happy with it and if you deviate from what she says she wants, she might say she's happy with it, but not be totally honest with you.
 
rockysalamander said:
I hope you read the below with the kindly and old wise gal tone intended. I did not re-read your story from the beginning, so this may be "settled".

You did the wise thing and had your GF go look at diamond colors. She could see a D vs. I. Presumably, she did not like the tint of the I. You can't assume she would not have seen the tint of the I independent of the D as a comparison. I would actually assume she is more color acute and can see the subtle body color in diamonds.

Since this is a gift for her, I'm going to advocate for you to place her preferences first. So, I would NOT buy her an I or low H. If she wanted a colorless stone + 1.25 c in size, then I think you need to have a chat with her about her priorities. Color or size. If you don't want to spoil the surprise, I'd personally stick with G and maybe high H, then adjust clarity and size to fit your budget.

Super-ideal diamonds down into I (and even down to a K) can look white from the top.. There are many fine examples here in PS member's hands. But, that exceptional cut does not mask the side, which is the angle she will see most of the time (technically I think the most color is visible at a 45 degree tilt). Most PS members have made a deliberate and informed personal choice to go lower in color in favor of clarity or size within the super-ideal. None have regretted it (or at least posted about it!). But, here, you are making the choice for another person. Unless you already had the size vs. color "talk", you don't know her preference.

You can use the style of the head to make that view less, but the fundamental body color of the stone will remain.

Just think carefully and, if it was up to me, I'd tell you to talk to your girl.
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SimoneDi said:
@Gadabout44 I like the ones suggested by DS, but I also agree that is colorless is what your SO wants, she might not be happy with an H. I also found this one within budget: https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...1.203-g-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104067041006

They are also running a 10% sale now, so the wire price comes down to $8388.55 and the CC price down to $8588.55
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Lorelei said:
Wise words.

If a DEF is what she wants, I'd not get her an I personally, especially as now she's seen warmth when compared to a D, it might never be ' mind clean' for her. I'd have a chat about it and see what her preferences are, you want her to be completely happy with it and if you deviate from what she says she wants, she might say she's happy with it, but not be totally honest with you.
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Thank you to all. I’m the one who is asking for help so I welcome all opinions. I am taking each suggestion as guidance that I am very grateful of. To clarify, my girlfriend does not have the slightest idea. We’ve been together for 6 years, and I feel as though she had just stopped thinking about engagement. I did not take her to a diamond store with me, she was able to compare an “I” to a “D” because her cousins had those rings which I over heard them discuss. Unfortunately, I do not know any other specs of the two diamond. For all we know the “I” was just a bad quality and perhaps she may not have notice had the two diamonds been similar in cut and other categories. However, I want to play it safe and aim for a GIA G, or a high H as you have suggested Rocky.


However, the reason why I was initially aiming for a G is because I felt it is the closest I can get without paying for the price of a “near colorless” grade diamond. However, 3 months in here has persuade me to adjust my expectations to an I due to my budget. My heart tells me I should stick with a G, but I know my budget does not support this which is why I should just accept the fact that she may have the smaller diamond in comparison to her 3 cousins. I know she will be comparing diamonds with her 3 newly wed cousins. And the smallest of the bunch is a 1.30, which is why I intend to find a super fiery diamond to make up for this. I can go slightly lower at 1.25 so that it is not that much smaller than the 1.30. Im sure they wont even notice the size difference, but I know it would probably mentally ache me more than her when I hear them discuss the numbers

I will peep the selections you guys/gals have shared, as well as DS's thank you!!!


PS. With the 4 suggestions DS and Simon had linked, can I have these 4 placed in order based on my sought out preferences?
 
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sunsetviewer said:
Gadsbout44,
That is very kind of you. I did want to purchase it however I don’t want to rush your decision. My last post was brief as I was in a hurry, so I hope it didn’t sound like sour grapes. You have it on hold so I respect your time to make a decision. If you decide against it they will contact me, but if you decide to keep it I will be glad that someone is enjoying it,
Thanks and best wishes
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Sunset I am releasing the hold today at 1:30 PST. Hopefully you read this on time so that you may call in to snag the diamond quickly if you are to purchase or at least hold.
 
Hi @Gadabout44 ! Does your girlfriend want the ring to be a total surprise? If not, I think you should consider asking her what her priorities are and looking at stones in person with her so that you can make sure she’ll be 100% happy with it. Otherwise, I would definitely suggest going with a vendor that has a very good return/upgrade policy just in case. Personal experience: I recently got engaged and my fiancé totally surprised me because he thought that was what I wanted. It was super sweet, but I do wish I could have been more involved with choosing the stone or at least giving him my preferences. I love the ring, but if it had been up to me I probably would have prioritized in different areas...and he probably would have ended up spending a LOT less than he did! Perhaps you can do a surprise proposal with a very simple band and then work on choosing the engagement ring together?
 
FWIW, I think you're overthinking it. People shop for diamonds all the time, even if it wasn't you, there are plenty of cases of people going to order a diamond or after ordering, discovering that the diamond is no longer available. I think you're being very considerate, but no one will think that you're stealing it from under his nose so to speak.
 
crybaby said:
FWIW, I think you're overthinking it. People shop for diamonds all the time, even if it wasn't you, there are plenty of cases of people going to order a diamond or after ordering, discovering that the diamond is no longer available. I think you're being very considerate, but no one will think that you're stealing it from under his nose so to speak.
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I agree, it happens all the time especially with online stones, there's many many people all potentially considering the same diamonds, all concerned have been very considerate indeed.
 
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