In dire need of the communities expertise in hunting a Diamond for an engagment.

[Lorelei]

It's picture perfect!

 

[Gadabout44]

Just got word from ED. Supplier said the Diamond was sold already.

I do have https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4531548 on hold

 

[gm89uk]

What a rollercoaster. Looks great to me, idealscope?
Ask how much they can knock the price off with price scope discount

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Just got word from ED. Supplier said the Diamond was sold already.

I do have https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4531548 on hold

So frustrating!!! This one is okay. The clarity on this one would bother me as it is just not as clean as the H was and has a feather (crack) on the girdle that I can see on the video.

I'd personally go with Whiteflash. I was just trying to get you the largest possible stone.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970287.htm

 

[Lorelei]

What a rollercoaster. Looks great to me, idealscope?
Ask how much they can knock the price off with price scope discount

You can say that again.

This one looks great if eye clean, feather is ok, etch channel noted is natural and not man made, isn't causing an issue and that the grade making cloud isn't having a negative effect, discount's normally for bank wire.

 

[Gadabout44]

Will take as long as 3 days. I did request it in hopes it comes sooner before the hold. They verified it is eye clean and the feathers and crystals cannot be seen

 

[gm89uk]

So frustrating!!! This one is okay. The clarity on this one would bother me as it is just not as clean as the H was and has a feather (crack) on the girdle that I can see on the video.

I'd personally go with Whiteflash. I was just trying to get you the largest possible stone.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970287.htm

I personally don't mind a feather on the girdle, I would not rule out a stone because of this, until it is examined by a gemologist in hand. There are many threads you can read about this with expert opinions about their experiences.

You can say that again.

This one looks great if eye clean, feather is ok, etch channel noted isn't causing an issue and that the grade making cloud isn't having a negative effect, discount's normally for bank wire.

Fortunately the cloud is only the 4th inclusion listed so shouldn't be significant, probably the feather contributing most to the si1.

JA do additional discount as well as bankwire called James Allen advantage discount (previously called pricescope discount, usually a few hundred dollars off in addition to the wire discount).

I think it is very likely to be eye clean and lots of various inclusions contributing to si1 I prefer to one large crystal making the inclusion.

Edit: I would get the gemologist to examine in hand rather than just taking the virtual salesman examining the same video you are.

 

[Gadabout44]

I personally don't mind a feather on the girdle, I would not rule out a stone because of this, until it is examined by a gemologist in hand. There are many threads you can read about this with expert opinions about their experiences.



Fortunately the cloud is only the 4th inclusion listed so shouldn't be significant, probably the feather contributing most to the si1.

I think it is very likely to be eye clean and lots of various inclusions contributing to si1 I prefer to one large crystal making the inclusion.

Edit: I would get the gemologist to examine in hand rather than just taking the virtual salesman examining the same video you are.

Just talked to JA, the partner does not allow inspection unless purchased. JA just told me it is eye clean, and I asked what was the major contribnutor to the SI1 rating, this person said clouds. However, They do not appear to be affecting it. It is likely due to the shear amount of inclusions that are bringing the grade down.

 

[sunsetviewer]

Thanks, GoG said they would contact me but I will shoot them an email.

 

[gm89uk]

The major inclusions affecting the diamond are listed in order on the certificate, so it should be feather, not cloud

 

[Lorelei]

I personally don't mind a feather on the girdle, I would not rule out a stone because of this, until it is examined by a gemologist in hand. There are many threads you can read about this with expert opinions about their experiences.



Fortunately the cloud is only the 4th inclusion listed so shouldn't be significant, probably the feather contributing most to the si1.

JA do additional discount as well as bankwire called James Allen advantage discount (previously called pricescope discount, usually a few hundred dollars off in addition to the wire discount).

I think it is very likely to be eye clean and lots of various inclusions contributing to si1 I prefer to one large crystal making the inclusion.

Edit: I would get the gemologist to examine in hand rather than just taking the virtual salesman examining the same video you are.

I'd still want an expert eye on a cloud inclusion in an SI grade to be safe.

Also, did you check out the other WF diamond DS posted?

 

[gm89uk]

I did! They look great, but was just trying to appease 'my heart wants a G' and hitting that 1.3 for mind clean reasons

 

[diamondseeker2006]

@gm89uk I wasn't worried about durability. I just like better clarity than this stone has. I usually rule out feathers as a primary inclusion in SI stones and especially if I can see them easily in the images. I could handle the SI1 in that H stone from ED, but this one just has too much going on for me, personally. It may not for the OP. The WF stone looks a little cleaner to me, and I like the cut better.

 

[rockysalamander]

This looks very nice, suggested by DS. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970287.htm

The great thing about WF will be that she CAN increase the size as funds allow. WF allows you to upgrade to any diamond of greater cost. You don't have to spend double like JA, BN and others. I also doubt her cousins will have anything close to this cut quality. So, your girls' will be a sparkle bomb.

 

[SimoneDi]

Sorry, did we axe the BGD 1.203 G SI1 suggested here:https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...1.203-g-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104067041006 ?

Edit: If future upgrades will be desired, then I would stick to WF because of their generous upgrade policies.

 

[gm89uk]

If OP can let go of the 1.3 target the WF would be my choice too

I do like feathers as they are usually quite clean hidden under the crown

 

[the_mother_thing]

@Gadabout44 Has this one been posted/considered?

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970288.htm

 

[diamondseeker2006]

@Gadabout44 Has this one been posted/considered?

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970288.htm

We ruled out I color because she had seen an I and didn't like it.

 

[Gadabout44]

I'd still want an expert eye on a cloud inclusion in an SI grade to be safe.

Also, did you check out the other WF diamond DS posted?

This looks very nice, suggested by DS. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970287.htm

The great thing about WF will be that she CAN increase the size as funds allow. WF allows you to upgrade to any diamond of greater cost. You don't have to spend double like JA, BN and others. I also doubt her cousins will have anything close to this cut quality. So, your girls' will be a sparkle bomb.

Sorry, did we axe the BGD 1.203 G SI1 suggested here:https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...1.203-g-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104067041006 ?

Edit: If future upgrades will be desired, then I would stick to WF because of their generous upgrade policies.

Hello! Sorry for the delay, I've been juggling my accounting duties as well as discretely browsing through this thread. Which is not a problem for me, I'm trying my best to make a purchase as soon as I can. Its been quite a long wait since I've first posted in this forum.

I did not put much thought into:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970287.htm
suggested by DS. Its under 1.25 and it is an H. Although I am open to a higher quality H then I suppose this stone meets that criteria. The 1.24 bothers me. But I understand its just a fraction of a difference. ANother thing is that it is at the top of my budget. So with the carats and color slightly below my desired numbers, it is also at the top of my budget. Is this still a good buy??

As for the stone from BGD, it is just too small for the top price of my budget unfortunately.

 

[the_mother_thing]

We ruled out I color because she had seen an I and didn't like it.

Sorry, I thought he’d said he resolved to needing to consider ‘I’ for budget/size purposes.

I think I would go with this one in a simple solitaire setting and call it a day. Any size difference between her’s & her cousins will be negligible & a moot point considering the incredible cut & performance of the ACA. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970287.htm

 

[rockysalamander]

Size goals...these have potential. I can't recall if they will provide ASET, but these are pretty solid. They show how to read an ASET on their site, so maybe they will provide them...

https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/1.31-ct-G-VS2-Affinity-Cut-Round-Diamond/D41504711 {clouds need to be cleared, but at VS2 less concerning that SI1. The numbers look good and video is nice; tiny blemish may or may not be an issue at 9:00}

https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/1.25-ct-E-SI1-Affinity-Cut-Round-Diamond/D40588205 {$7818, Great specs. High color. No pesky clouds. Wish it had a video}. I still like the WF stone, but this is way less.

Edited to add. Adiamor's version of Tiffany Soli.
https://www.adiamor.com/Engagement-Rings/Solitaire/Classic-Solitaire-Setting-2mm/WhiteGold/1623

 

[rockysalamander]

Wild card (&over budget). Emerald cut, F VVS2. 1.42 carat. Good spread. This would be bigger by a clear margin than your current round goal and make it harder to compare to cousins by changing shape. But, she has to like ECs.
https://www.jewelsbygrace.com/1-42tcw-emerald-cut-diamond-gia-fvvs2

 

[Lorelei]

Hello! Sorry for the delay, I've been juggling my accounting duties as well as discretely browsing through this thread. Which is not a problem for me, I'm trying my best to make a purchase as soon as I can. Its been quite a long wait since I've first posted in this forum.

I did not put much thought into:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970287.htm
suggested by DS. Its under 1.25 and it is an H. Although I am open to a higher quality H then I suppose this stone meets that criteria. The 1.24 bothers me. But I understand its just a fraction of a difference. ANother thing is that it is at the top of my budget. So with the carats and color slightly below my desired numbers, it is also at the top of my budget. Is this still a good buy??

As for the stone from BGD, it is just too small for the top price of my budget unfortunately.

I hope you're not entering diamond angles in your numbers columns.

 

[Gadabout44]

Size goals...these have potential. I can't recall if they will provide ASET, but these are pretty solid. They show how to read an ASET on their site, so maybe they will provide them...

https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/1.31-ct-G-VS2-Affinity-Cut-Round-Diamond/D41504711 {clouds need to be cleared, but at VS2 less concerning that SI1. The numbers look good and video is nice; tiny blemish may or may not be an issue at 9:00}

https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/1.25-ct-E-SI1-Affinity-Cut-Round-Diamond/D40588205 {$7818, Great specs. High color. No pesky clouds. Wish it had a video}. I still like the WF stone, but this is way less.

Edited to add. Adiamor's version of Tiffany Soli.
https://www.adiamor.com/Engagement-Rings/Solitaire/Classic-Solitaire-Setting-2mm/WhiteGold/1623

The 1.31 G looks good (ASET photo above). They said it is eye clean. I asked about the E colored diamond, no image or video available.

Wild card (&over budget). Emerald cut, F VVS2. 1.42 carat. Good spread. This would be bigger by a clear margin than your current round goal and make it harder to compare to cousins by changing shape. But, she has to like ECs.
https://www.jewelsbygrace.com/1-42tcw-emerald-cut-diamond-gia-fvvs2

I do know one thing, she prefers a round cut diamond and nothing else Thank you for sharing though

I hope you're not entering diamond angles in your numbers columns.

Actually I've mistakenly entered a carat number, good thing I caught it.

 

[gm89uk]

If it was me, if upgrades are ever going to be on the table, WF is the easy option. Personally I think the JA appears to have better optical symmetry than the 1.31 but also a good option.

 

[Gadabout44]

If it was me, if upgrades are ever going to be on the table, WF is the easy option. Personally I think the JA appears to have better optical symmetry than the 1.31 but also a good option.

Upon further inspection, the stone from WF is a AGS H. I just released a diamond on hold that was also an AGS H, and when GOG compared it to a GIA H, it fell short and looked more like a high end GIA I which I want to avoid if I am going for a GIA G. However, I did ask WF for a side by side photo of the AGS H diamond next to a GIA G and a GIA H. It should be ready by tomorrow morning. I did place the 1.24 WF diamond on hold

JA diamond: referring to this one correct?
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4531548


What do you think of the ASET of the diamond from Adiamor?

 

[gm89uk]

Upon further inspection, the stone from WF is a AGS H. I just released a diamond on hold that was also an AGS H, and when GOG compared it to a GIA H, it fell short and looked more like a high end GIA I which I want to avoid if I am going for a GIA G

JA diamond: referring to this one correct?
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4531548


What do you think of the ASET of the diamond from Adiamor?

AGS H is not consistently lower than GIA H, you can ask WF to send side by side pictures next to GIA H if they have any in stock, their opinion on whether it is a high or low H etc.

The ASET is poorly taken and I think if well taken you'd have a fairly nice over all ASET with 1 area of leakage due to variation in the half pavilion mains 11oclock. I think it somewhat falls short of the calibre of stones you've been looking at, although it would be a nice stone if you're not wanting the best of the best for cut. It wouldn't be for me..

 

[Gadabout44]

AGS H is not consistently lower than GIA H, you can ask WF to send side by side pictures next to GIA H if they have any in stock, their opinion on whether it is a high or low H etc.

The ASET is poorly taken and I think if well taken you'd have a fairly nice over all ASET with 1 area of leakage due to variation in the half pavilion mains 11oclock. I think it somewhat falls short of the calibre of stones you've been looking at, although it would be a nice stone if you're not wanting the best of the best for cut. It wouldn't be for me..

Ok, I've crossed that diamond off my list. Its between the one from JA and WF. I did ask WF for a side by side comparison with GIA diamonds. I will have it tomorrow morning. It is also on hold!

TY

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Just FYI, I have 1.27 ct H VS2 ACA studs from Whiteflash. I do always ask about where a diamond falls in a color range, and WF has always been honest with me.

See, not low H or yellow!

 

[rockysalamander]

with 1 area of leakage due to variation in the half pavilion mains 11oclock.

We are seeing so many of these lately. It must be a change from one of the big supplies. I went and examined a diamond for a friend with my trusty ASET and light-kit last weekend and it has the same variation issues.