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We have listened to Dancing Fire’s anger (for years) over seeing a person use government assistance to purchase Abalone Tuna. Yet he says NOTHING about how the Trump’s illegally cheating and lied to get out of paying 500 Million dollars in taxes. The hypocrisy is stunning.

Trump’s relationship with the Saudi’s is another interesting topic. He has done business with the Saudi’s before he was president. How can he be impartial when he has made financial gains in his business dealings with them. How is this not a conflict of interest?
 

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We have listened to Dancing Fire’s anger (for years) over seeing a person use government assistance to purchase Abalone Tuna. Yet he says NOTHING about how the Trump’s illegally cheating and lied to get out of paying 500 Million dollars in taxes. The hypocrisy is stunning.
If that is true the IRS should go after Trump for what he owes. 500 mil will buy a lot of abalones. :lol:
 

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I'm not battling and especially not with you. But we've been told time and again from "professionals" that we shouldn't stigmatize mental health issues. I guess we should add a caveat to that which says "unless politically expedient."
Hi red,

I have been trying to put my finger on what bothered me so much about Kanye’s visit to the White House when he was so obviously unstable.

I am going to say obviously unstable because I have bipolar disorder and I know exactly what Kanye’s kind of talk means. The thing that stood out hugely for me was his dislike for number 13 and trapdoor talk and his expectation that everyone knew exactly what he was talking about...that they were on his mental plane. That’s me when I’m dangerously manic. Anyone who has a bipolar type I person in their lives knows that talk.

Mania in certain stages can be vivacious and deceptive, but once it is disorganized like this, there is no hiding it. Everyone knows you’re ill. They knew he was ill before the cameras started rolling. The only question to ask now is why did they film this sick man anyway? Why didn’t they give this mentally ill man his dignity and send him home?

If I were to guess, trump wanted a distraction from all of the negative press about Kavanaugh. Film the outlandish mentally ill Kanye and everyone will argue about him and forget all about the man who committed sexual assault in the Supreme Court. We do have an election coming up...we need people to forget!

I feel a certain amount of anger at this time when I see conservatives try and defend Kanye’s mental health when I know his illness is being exploited. I would like to keep things honest. If anyone gave a shit about him or mental illness in general, they wouldn’t have put him on camera in that condition under that context.
 

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Trump exploited Kanye. Any one listening to Kanye yesterday knew something was very wrong. The man has come forward letting people know he is bipolar. Nothing Kanye said made any sense. He needed help.

Yesterday while Florida was dealing with the devastating aftermath of a hurricane, Trump went ahead with a meeting with Kanye. Trump knows Kanye has serious mental health issues and still found it acceptable to exploit the man. Trump is a pig.

I think what we are missing here is that Trump supporters don't expect politicians and those on their "side" to make sense and may even enjoy them more when they don't (sounds just like me!). Transcripts of Trump's speeches/rants sound very much like Kanye.

And yes, DF, I find Trump embarrassing too for the same reason. So in your view that makes me racist against whites and blacks.
 

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Trump had to know Kanye was having issues before the interview began. If Trump was not aware before, he certainly knew after the interview started. He should have stopped the interview immediately and tried to get Kanye help away from the world watching. Trump used Kanye as a distraction.

Why would any of us think Trump would act like a decent human being and try to help someone? SMDH. Trump and his family of grifters think of no one but themselves.

After seeing Melania’s interview the other night, I think she and her husband were made for each other.
 

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You may be right @Maria D . We have all had a front row seat to this circus the past 21 months. There just seems to be no decency anymore, no kindness. America in my mind, always helped people, we came together in times of need, no matter what side politically you were on. The way the country is divided is so sad.
 
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"In my life, I have watched John Kennedy talk on television about missiles in Cuba. I saw Lyndon Johnson look Richard Russell squarely in the eye and and say, "And we shall overcome." I saw Richard Nixon resign and Gerald Ford tell the Congress that our long national nightmare was over. I saw Jimmy Carter talk about malaise and Ronald Reagan talk about a shining city on a hill. I saw George H.W. Bush deliver the eulogy for the Soviet bloc, and Bill Clinton comfort the survivors of Timothy McVeigh's madness in Oklahoma City. I saw George W. Bush struggle to make sense of it all on September 11, 2001, and I saw Barack Obama sing "Amazing Grace" in the wounded sanctuary of Mother Emanuel Church in Charleston, South Carolina.

These were the presidents of my lifetime. These were not perfect men. They were not perfect presidents, god knows. Not one of them was that. But they approached the job, and they took to the podium, with all the gravitas they could muster as appropriate to the job. They tried, at least, to reach for something in the presidency that was beyond their grasp as ordinary human beings. They were not all ennobled by the attempt, but they tried nonetheless.

And comes now this hopeless, vicious buffoon, and the audience of equally hopeless and vicious buffoons who laughed and cheered when he made sport of a woman whose lasting memory of the trauma she suffered is the laughter of the perpetrators. Now he comes, a man swathed in scandal, with no interest beyond what he can put in his pocket and what he can put over on a universe of suckers, and he does something like this while occupying an office that we gave him, and while endowed with a public trust that he dishonors every day he wakes up in the White House.

The scion of a multigenerational criminal enterprise, the parameters of which we are only now beginning to comprehend. A vessel for all the worst elements of the American condition. And a cheap, soulless bully besides. Watch him again, behind the seal of the President of the United States. Isn't he a funny man? Isn't what happened to that lady hilarious? Watch the assembled morons cheer. This is the only story now."

– Charles Pierce
 

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After seeing Melania’s interview the other night, I think she and her husband were made for each other.

Hi, Calliecake-

I used to feel very sorry for her, but after she wore that jacket saying she didn't care on a visit to little children separated from their parents, I have felt far less sympathetic towards her. What did she say in the interview?

AGBF
 

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And I saw what once was a great D party of JFK to today's socialist party. :knockout:
 

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@Dancing Fire , I am genuinely curious - would there be anything that Trump does / not delivered etc that would result in him losing your support ?
 

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@Dancing Fire , I am genuinely curious - would there be anything that Trump does / not delivered etc that would result in him losing your support ?
If the US economy tanks and interest rates go up too high and too quick.
 

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Trump had to know Kanye was having issues before the interview began.
That's true, b/c being a AA and a conservative is against the law. :rolleyes:
 

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If the US economy tanks and interest rates go up too high and too quick.

Isn't DF just so precious though? Under Obama he was so worried about debt but now that concern has completely slipped his mind!

Yes, I remember it well :think: we were in a $6 trillion mess when we hired Obama to fix our problems, but since he became President he have piled on another $11 trillion debt...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/under-donald-trump-national-debt-tops-21-trillion-for-first-time-ever/
 
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I still do but we must give Obama credit for 11 trillion of our 21 trillion debt.

You still do? Do tell! Feel free to express your anguish here.:lol: It will get your mind off of Kanye. Here's some reading to get you in the flow:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stanco...s-president-in-american-history/#4445522564a9

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...r-plus-deficits-fiscal-ruin-column/986236002/

Also, your numbers are a bit off, but what's a couple trillion here or there?
https://www.thebalance.com/national-debt-under-obama-3306293
 

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If the US economy tanks and interest rates go up too high and too quick.

Sooooooo....It's ok that Trump:

- Is at minimum a sexual predator and has admitted to such on tape.
- Does not speak in coherent sentences and just makes up words like it's his f*cking job
- Was entirely ok with separating children from their families with no real way of putting them back together.
- Is a narcissist
- Has no actual political experience in any sort/fashion
- Habitually lies about things that can easily be fact checked

Along with everything else he's done...As long as your bottom line is not affected...It's all ok to you?

Ohhhhhh...ok. What's that feeling in my stomach you ask? Oh that's disgust.
 

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You aren’t alone @AGBF . Any sympathy I had for her was lost when she decided to wear that jacket as she left to visit the children separated at the border.

Melania claimed she wore the “I Really Don’t Care, Do U?” jacket to send a message to the left leaning media. She talked about her “Be Best” campaign and how we need to teach children about social, emotional online behavior. She referred to herself as “the most bullied person in the world”.

Melania made remarks about how women need to be heard and if a woman comes forward with sexual assault allegations, she needs to have really hard evidence to prove it happened.

Melania said her husband’s affairs were “not a concern or focus of mine. I am a mother and a First Lady. I have much more important things to think about and to do.”

After watching the interview, I came away with the impression that Trump and Melania deserve one another. Red and Dancing Fire will probably view the interview differently.
 

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Melania claimed she wore the “I Really Don’t Care, Do U?” jacket to send a message to the left leaning media. She talked about her “Be Best” campaign and how we need to teach children about social, emotional online behavior. She referred to herself as “the most bullied person in the world”.

Melania made remarks about how women need to be heard and if a woman comes forward with sexual assault allegations, she needs to have really hard evidence to prove it happened.

Melania said her husband’s affairs were “not a concern or focus of mine. I am a mother and a First Lady. I have much more important things to think about and to do.”
I didn't watch it, just saw the reported highlights like you included above. I was puzzled by why she'd even do the interview and then it occurred to me that perhaps she is seemingly on the same page as the orange one because she was promised a better divorce settlement if she helped him win a 2nd term.
 

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Sooooooo....It's ok that Trump:

- Is at minimum a sexual predator and has admitted to such on tape.
- Does not speak in coherent sentences and just makes up words like it's his f*cking job
- Was entirely ok with separating children from their families with no real way of putting them back together.
- Is a narcissist
- Has no actual political experience in any sort/fashion
- Habitually lies about things that can easily be fact checked

Along with everything else he's done...As long as your bottom line is not affected...It's all ok to you?

Ohhhhhh...ok. What's that feeling in my stomach you ask? Oh that's disgust.
Everything you stated above will not get Trump out of office. A Dems. once said " "It's the economy, stupid". :P2
 

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DF, everyone knows that the economy does better under Democrats:

Economy does better under Democratic presidents.png

Blue wave!!!
This is just “fake news.”

DF also complained about job creation the entire time that Obama was in office, yet Trump has failed to perform in that area as well. I’ll bet not a word has been said about that.
 

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This is just “fake news.”

DF also complained about job creation the entire time that Obama was in office, yet Trump has failed to perform in that area as well. I’ll bet not a word has been said about that.
How is he failing? Our unemployment rate dropped to 3.7 percent the lowest since 1969 of course you weren't born then. :P2 more americans are working = less votes for the Dems.
 
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