helping with $4-5k budget e-ring: what would you do?

[msop04]

And I like this oval best

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/0.80-carat-e-color-vs1-clarity-sku-209039

I agree with Niel, as I love a chubby oval! ...and with this setting, it would take up some serious real estate!! I love love LOVE the sapphires, but any color would be beautiful.

http://www.beverleyk.com/r9459-a-d-s-m.html

 

[Gypsy]

I think the problem is... she cares about the setting most. And she wants an "intricate pave setting". I think those Beverly K's are lovely and yes, in the abstract, I think set with a chubby oval they'd be gorgeous. But I think that someone who wants a ton of pave is going to be disappointed in them.

Which is too bad. But, it's her ring and she's the one wearing it, so her tastes trump everyone else.

 

[msop04]

I think the problem is... she cares about the setting most. And she wants an "intricate pave setting". I think those Beverly K's are lovely and yes, in the abstract, I think set with a chubby oval they'd be gorgeous. But I think that someone who wants a ton of pave is going to be disappointed in them.

Which is too bad. But, it's her ring and she's the one wearing it, so her tastes trump everyone else.

True that, Gypsy... I think a lot of us like to live vicariously through other PS members. (well, I do anyway...)

 

[msop04]

I think the problem is... she cares about the setting most. And she wants an "intricate pave setting".

Keeping that in mind, I still love the oval shape. What do you think of these?

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER8838W44JJ - an oval to soften the corners a bit. It would also be very easy to get a band since it would fit flush... I love this!!
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7739W44JJ
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER10293W44JJ
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER8857W44JJ - this would be my "no halo" choice for an oval... simple, yet intricate at the same time...

 

[Gypsy]

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER8857W44JJ - this would be my "no halo" choice for an oval... simple, yet intricate at the same time...

I like it. Nice choice. Like they Tiffany Ribbon, but with a different profile, intricate and very nice. Would even look great with a sapphire or an old cut.

 

[velouriaL]

These suggestions are all great. I am sharing all these with him.

This is where we're at now:
He's trying to decide whether to go for a sapphire, which will be bigger and a beautiful blue at under $3000 and a diamond. So, if anyone would like to suggest diamonds-- most shapes but marquise and princess- for UNDER $3000, that will help him make a comparison of how far the same amount would go.

I'm more of colored stone and settings person, so I REALLY appreciate the diamond help! I am really learning a lot!

 

[velouriaL]

Ok, I have another question: Do you think that Beverley K and Gabriel are comparable in quality? I know that BK is supposed to be pretty good for the money, but the pictures of Gabriel available online aren't great, and it's hard to tell.

Also, apparently she doesn't like that her sister's ring is set too high. So there's another thing guiding principle.

 

[Gypsy]

No, they aren't comparable quality.
Beverly K is better.
But Gabriel isn't maul quality or anything like that. It's affordable, and the quality is not the same as Beverly k. But it's not bad. I haven't seen too many of their settings. But I have seen their bands, and I would buy them.

Problem with Beverley K is... their designs that your friend would like the best are expensive.
Good thing about Beverly K is they will customize, and the additional cost is minimal for that (as low as 200 bucks). Here's one gorgeous ring (done on a strict budget) by them: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-art-deco-bev-k-ring-princess-of-hearts-from-gog.175328/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-art-deco-bev-k-ring-princess-of-hearts-from-gog.175328/[/URL]

You know. Since she doesn't care too much about the center stone. You might want to consider a 'mostly' eyeclean I clarity stone for savings. GOG is good with those. Hmm... let me look.

 

[Gypsy]

So... things to consider.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9436/ 3,500

You could do something similar to webdiva's with that, in budget.


I'd ask for prices for this setting:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/images/classicjewelry/BEVERLY%20K/SSR1191_C.jpg


There's also this (but from GOG): http://www.primejeweler.com/8wr769a54rd-ddm.html with this: (ask if eyeclean): http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10513/

 

[velouriaL]

Thanks, Gypsy. Good to know. I wish the internet were tactile! And good suggestions as usual.

Right now, he likes:
http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-designers/beverley-k-jewelry/rings/79PP1/ (How high do you think this sits)
http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=2358 (thought on quality for this one?)
http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SignatureSettingsPortfolio/Halo/The-Gabbie-Halo-Setting-1/15232017_cCzpHK#!i=1400931829&k=ztj8P55
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/TacoriHT2510engring/
https://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/files/art%20deco%20sapphire%20b.jpg (possible custom from ERD)

And maybe these?
http://www.gabrielny.com/amavida/style/ER6514PT3SA
http://www.gabrielny.com/amavida/style/ER10050PT3JJ
http://www.gabrielny.com/amavida/style/ER6500PT3JJ
http://www.gabrielny.com/amavida/style/ER6506PT3JJ
http://www.gabrielny.com/amavida/style/ER6496PT3SA

Still hasn't made a decision on sapphire vs diamond. I think it will depend on what setting he goes for.

Of course, I just told them that even the best pave falls out and requires care, so who knows, that might change everything...

 

[Niel]

she said she would take a yellow sapphire right? how about this

http://www.fancydiamonds.net/view_diamonds/7613.htm#.UkV31hzfJUw

 

[Niel]

she said she would take a yellow sapphire right? how about this

http://www.fancydiamonds.net/view_diamonds/7613.htm#.UkV31hzfJUw

now this i suspect might be out of budget, but as that stone is under 2k it cooouuld work( in unplated 14k WG?), a setting like this, with that oval, possibly even set E/W?

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/vintage-platinum-milgrain-ring-pid-1069-44.html

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/vintage-platinum-milgrain-ring-pid-1071-44.html

 

[Niel]

I had an idea.... you'll have to answer part of this, as I don't know how hard this'll be, but as she doesn't seem to care too much about the center stone, I wonder if you could find a nice treated Montana yellow sapphire or spinel or something that could fit this.

http://loupetroop.com/listings/settings/vintage-platinum-setting-size-5

Absolutely stunning, and she may even take offers!

 

[Gypsy]

Velourial,

Um. I hate to say it but. His tastes seem very different from hers. She wants 'intricate pave" and he favors simpler and art deco. If it were me, I'd point out that over half of those settings do not have pave or have very little pave. And are definitely not intricate pave. He needs to shop with her tastes in mind. Not his.

The Gabbi with a sapphire.
and this one
http://www.gabrielny.com/amavida/style/ER6514PT3SA with an OEC

Are really the only ones that might make her happy. The rest of them she is going to be disappointed in, flat out.

as for pave falling out, yes. But that doesn't mean he gets to substitute his taste for hers. That means he needs to have a talk with her and say... are you sure you are up for pave? If she says yes, then he needs to respect that.

 

[msop04]

I had an idea.... you'll have to answer part of this, as I don't know how hard this'll be, but as she doesn't seem to care too much about the center stone, I wonder if you could find a nice treated Montana yellow sapphire or spinel or something that could fit this.

http://loupetroop.com/listings/settings/vintage-platinum-setting-size-5

Absolutely stunning, and she may even take offers!

OP, I think Niel may have nailed it with this setting. It's beautiful, extremely intricate, and has a lot of finger presence. A yellow sapphire would be PERFECT in it! This is the best find yet.

And I also agree with Gypsy that he needs to shop with her tastes in mind.

 

[msop04]

Regarding the setting mentioned above, it's halo-esque without being an obvious halo, so it would be more unique.

 

[Niel]

Regarding the setting mentioned above, it's halo-esque without being an obvious halo, so it would be more unique.

Right personally in obsessed with it and want it myself. Oh of only.....


But As a person who wanted a LOT of intricate detail. I feel like this would be very pleasing! IF you think you could find a sapphire for the remaining budget.

 

[msop04]

Regarding the setting mentioned above, it's halo-esque without being an obvious halo, so it would be more unique.

Right personally in obsessed with it and want it myself. Oh of only.....


But As a person who wanted a LOT of intricate detail. I feel like this would be very pleasing! IF you think you could find a sapphire for the remaining budget.

Honestly, I wanted it too!! But I'm not in the market... Damn, that setting is the BUSINESS!!! PS is dangerous to my bank account.
I truly hope a PS member buys it so we can all be like

 

[Gypsy]

Totally agree. Stick a sapphire in it. That's the winner.

 

[Niel]

Regarding the setting mentioned above, it's halo-esque without being an obvious halo, so it would be more unique.

Right personally in obsessed with it and want it myself. Oh of only.....


But As a person who wanted a LOT of intricate detail. I feel like this would be very pleasing! IF you think you could find a sapphire for the remaining budget.

Honestly, I wanted it too!! But I'm not in the market... Damn, that setting is the BUSINESS!!! PS is dangerous to my bank account.
I truly hope a PS member buys it so we can all be like

This setting is being sold by a pretty prominent PSer... they already have some pics

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/meet-audrey-my-2-55ct-s-t-oec-bundle-of-creamy-goodness.193454/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/meet-audrey-my-2-55ct-s-t-oec-bundle-of-creamy-goodness.193454/[/URL]

 

[Gypsy]

http://diamondbistro.com/category/246/Semi-Mounts/listings/35385/Beverly-K-Platinum-Diamond-Ring-Setting-Ret-$3840.html Another option: with a sapphire.

 

[Gypsy]

http://diamondbistro.com/category/196/Rings/listings/35085/Reduced-Tacori-18kt-wSteven-Kirsch-Modifications.html Perfect for a 9x7 rectangular sapphire. Tacori sits the 'intricate pave' button square on the head.

 

[snowmom]

This looks similar to the fay cullen colored stone halo you posted a picture of and it is a great price.
http://www.jkrantz.com/8272013sapphirering1.jpg.....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231049671411?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
The vintage experts would have to chime in to say if this looks like a good oec and how the quality looks.

The BN set on loupe troop is mine and it is beautiful but I don't think it is unique enough for what you are looking for.
Good luck on your search.

 

[msop04]

This looks similar to the fay cullen colored stone halo you posted a picture of and it is a great price.
http://www.jkrantz.com/8272013sapphirering1.jpg......
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231049671411?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
The vintage experts would have to chime in to say if this looks like a good oec and how the quality looks.

The BN set on loupe troop is mine and it is beautiful but I don't think it is unique enough for what you are looking for.
Good luck on your search.

The sapphire setting is very pretty, but if intricate pave is what she desires, the one Niel found is.... just... sublime.

(can you tell I really want this to be the "winner"??)

 

[Niel]

This looks similar to the fay cullen colored stone halo you posted a picture of and it is a great price.
http://www.jkrantz.com/8272013sapphirering1.jpg.......
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231049671411?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
The vintage experts would have to chime in to say if this looks like a good oec and how the quality looks.

The BN set on loupe troop is mine and it is beautiful but I don't think it is unique enough for what you are looking for.
Good luck on your search.

The sapphire setting is very pretty, but if intricate pave is what she desires, the one Niel found is.... just... sublime.

(can you tell I really want this to be the "winner"??)

That setting couldn't fit your stone, could it?


Just in case it doesn't win this particular race.

 

[snowmom]

No I wish! My center is .77.

The setting you found is gorgeous. If they do go with that I can't wait to see the pictures. It will be stunning. I also love the jbeg Emily setting.

 

[snowmom]

typo - meant bella halo

 

[msop04]

This looks similar to the fay cullen colored stone halo you posted a picture of and it is a great price.
http://www.jkrantz.com/8272013sapphirering1.jpg.........
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231049671411?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
The vintage experts would have to chime in to say if this looks like a good oec and how the quality looks.

The BN set on loupe troop is mine and it is beautiful but I don't think it is unique enough for what you are looking for.
Good luck on your search.

The sapphire setting is very pretty, but if intricate pave is what she desires, the one Niel found is.... just... sublime.

(can you tell I really want this to be the "winner"??)

That setting couldn't fit your stone, could it?


Just in case it doesn't win this particular race.

OMG Niel, don't you know I wish I could buy it... mine's an 8.7mm, and it listed 8.3-8.5??? -- but I'm not gonna be in the market for a long time. It took me forever to convince the hubs to let me get the ring I have... I can't imagine he'd be too happy for me to change it!! I'd have to be really sweet for a long time, and that may still not help!!

 

[velouriaL]

These are all very exciting suggestions. The only thing about both the pre-owned BK and the AMAZING vintage setting that that the center stone called for is a bit larger than she wants. I know she wants finger coverage, but she says she doesn't want anything "too big" because of her lifestyle, area, and job. I think the ideal for her would be to have the presence of a 1-1.5 ct diamond. She's not a PSer and not (yet) in the throes of DSS.

Right now, I have supplied him with A LOT of information and options, and have helped him process a lot of it. He's somewhat swamped with work right now, so I think it'll take him a few days to get back to me with some decisions.

In the meantime, I do have some more questions:

I reviewed my conversations with her about her preferences and I think that she doesn't necessarily need a TON of pave. I think it's more, like, "an intricate setting with some bling." I think this is really compared to a more modern or organic setting or a simple, classic solitaire. She also said she was "very open-minded" and "would be happy with a lot of things, some very different from the other." So, I think some of the simpler, art-deco (but still with some bling) would definitely be fine with her.

I also think that "intricate" should also not come at the expense of quality. I think she's rather have a somewhat simpler (but still somewhat intricate and somewhat blingy) setting than one that's highly intricate but isn't going to hold up over time. I also mentioned to her that pave needs to be maintained and can fall out, and she said that she'd want something she didn't have to baby too much. I wish Van Craeynest were a little more affordable, because think some of their more intricate settings would be a really great option.

The other thing he asked me about recently was to give my opinion on some already assembled rings from Antique Engagement Rings. I know that some have said that the quality from AER isn't that high, but I wonder if the settings are comparable to, say, Gabriel? And of course if we read any non-GIA stats with a very critical eye.

 

[Niel]

i know he wanted diamond center, but i mean this is a beauty, and you could do so much wit the remaining budget

http://loupetroop.com/listings/loose-stones-colored-gemstone/reduced-royal-blue-sapphire