Help with AVC???

[EmmRose]

Hello! I'm just starting putting my e-ring ideas together. I already know exactly what I want. I want an AVC in the Tacori 2620 setting. After seeing a GOG video of it, I'm in absolute love. I don't know much about AVC's, but I LOVE the look of them. My budget for a stone is 10k. I'm pretty color sensitive and don't want to go below an H. I like like these two stones, but don't know which is better by AVC standards. I'm unsure of the medium flouro in the 1st stone. I have a round brilliant with flouro and it always looks cloudy in sunlight to me.

This is exactly what I want. If I could be this ring, I would.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMB6pJ_Tv0o

Stone 1
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11494/

Stone 2
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8619/

Stone 3
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8621/

 

[04diamond<3]

How big is your RB? I realize you might not want something with a tint, but AVC's are cut to make even the yellow stones appear whiter. Example, for your budget:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11102/

It's a k, but you can't see the color (you may be able to from the side, but who looks at the side view all day?). Also, it's an si2, but ask them how clean it is, it may not be so noticeable....but definitely confirm it.

 

[EmmRose]

How big is your RB? I realize you might not want something with a tint, but AVC's are cut to make even the yellow stones appear whiter. Example, for your budget:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11102/

It's a k, but you can't see the color (you may be able to from the side, but who looks at the side view all day?). Also, it's an si2, but ask them how clean it is, it may not be so noticeable....but definitely confirm it.

My RB is a .9. I've never seen an AVC in person before. Buying below and H, I think I'd definitely want to see it before I commit just to be sure it would fit my taste. That K is lovely! I'm a few hours from GOG, but maybe I could talk my other half into a weekend trip

 

[EmmRose]

Also, is there a difference between the AVCs and the Premium cuts? Is it the branding?

 

[04diamond<3]

How big is your RB? I realize you might not want something with a tint, but AVC's are cut to make even the yellow stones appear whiter. Example, for your budget:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11102/

It's a k, but you can't see the color (you may be able to from the side, but who looks at the side view all day?). Also, it's an si2, but ask them how clean it is, it may not be so noticeable....but definitely confirm it.

My RB is a .9. I've never seen an AVC in person before. Buying below and H, I think I'd definitely want to see it before I commit just to be sure it would fit my taste. That K is lovely! I'm a few hours from GOG, but maybe I could talk my other half into a weekend trip

They can send you a video! They will do one by the window too so you can see a tint (if there is one from the side view), but those stones face up the whitest I've seen! An R doesn't show much tint face up! Anyways, call Jonathan and ask him about the clarity, color and sending you a video of the stone. Although, if you really need to, you could also go see it.

The premiums look more like true old cut diamonds whereas the AVC are designer cut and a newer cut...

 

[packrat]

There's no pic of the 1st one, but of the other two, I like the 3rd one best, the 1ct E.

I'd email Jonathan and ask him about fluorescence. He's super knowledgeable and nice, and he can explain it to you, and give you thoughts on them.

 

[ariel144]

[quote="04diamond
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11102/

It's a k, but you can't see the color (you may be able to from the side, but who looks at the side view all day?). Also, it's an si2, but ask them how clean it is, it may not be so noticeable....but definitely confirm it.[/quote]

I vote for this large K SI2…i doubt if the inclusions are noticeable. Wintotty went from a 3ct AVC D color to a 4+c K color AVC. Will try and find her thread. She wanted a 4+c AVR but loved the AVC too.

I once saw a K colored princess cut and it was lovely…The slight color to me adds dimension to the stone. Haven't seen the AVC's in person but watched the videos a million times. 1.7 k faces up 7x7 which is the size of a 2c diamond.

They will do a video of 3 of your choices which will help you decide. Also the blue fl. can sometimes give the stone a blue hue in certain lighting which also gives it more personality. They will tell you if it looks cloudy in sunlight.

But bigger is better to me and the AVC's are cut for performance.

I remember one PSr had an N color AVR and was attending a GIA class. No one in the class could guess the color of her stone….They out perform higher colors like crazy based on all those who have purchased and posted on PS. Remember cut is king.

Good luck with your search. You cannot go wrong no matter which stone you prefer.

Here's Wintotty's 4.27 k AVC…enjoy!

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/4-27avc-meets-steven-kirsch.191951/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/4-27avc-meets-steven-kirsch.191951/[/URL]

Also for comparing an AVR K color to a AVC D with blue fl…this thread is great:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/too-good-to-be-a-temp-ring-something-to-tide-me-over-lol.184444/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/too-good-to-be-a-temp-ring-something-to-tide-me-over-lol.184444/[/URL]

 

[ariel144]

Also, is there a difference between the AVCs and the Premium cuts? Is it the branding?

Not the branding but the care, high precision, and specs in making the cuts which makes them ultra high performing stones. It costs more to have them cut. The cut design was a labor of love for the look of the old mine/cushion cut and Old European cut stones. But finding a great performing antique stone is like finding a needle in a haystack. So Jonathan set out to create high performing chunky cut cushion and rounds….voila…AVR's and AVC's.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I have seen 2 AVC's in L and M color and while absolutely gorgeous, I would probably buy those lower colors for a right hand halo ring and not for my engagement ring. I would encourage you to maybe consider I and maybe J color, though. I ended up with an I color AVR just because that is what they had in the size I wanted, and I do like it in an antique style stone. A J will have a very slight tint, but I kind of like it in an AVC.

There are few settings that I think are prettier than the 2620 for an AVC, so I think you are going to have one GORGEOUS ring!

Here are my suggestions for diamonds:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11105/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10809/ (a few hundred over budget, but sooo much size over those 1 ct stones and gorgeous shape for your setting)

The AVC's are custom cut to very specific parameters to have ideal light performance, polish, and symmetry. The other cushions may be old or generic newly cut stones that are not cut to ideal proportions. They will have much more variation in appearance, symmetry, etc. Both are antique style cuts, but the AVC's are rare in that few cushions in the world have such an outstanding cut. If my money tree ever blooms, I would like to have one!

 

[EmmRose]

Thank you so much for all the input and stone suggestions! I've been pouring over AVC threads. It seems like the slightly warmer colors are favored over icy white in the AVC. To me, it look like H-K seem to throw out more pastels. They are stunning! I found another video on GOG of a J AVC in the Tacori 2620 and I see next to no tint! If I can go up a little in size and still love the color, then I'll definitely take that route. All of these stones are so beautiful! I want to go to GOG just to stare in person hehe

 

[EmmRose]

I have seen 2 AVC's in L and M color and while absolutely gorgeous, I would probably buy those lower colors for a right hand halo ring and not for my engagement ring. I would encourage you to maybe consider I and maybe J color, though. I ended up with an I color AVR just because that is what they had in the size I wanted, and I do like it in an antique style stone. A J will have a very slight tint, but I kind of like it in an AVC.

There are few settings that I think are prettier than the 2620 for an AVC, so I think you are going to have one GORGEOUS ring!

Here are my suggestions for diamonds:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11105/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10809/ (a few hundred over budget, but sooo much size over those 1 ct stones and gorgeous shape for your setting)

The AVC's are custom cut to very specific parameters to have ideal light performance, polish, and symmetry. The other cushions may be old or generic newly cut stones that are not cut to ideal proportions. They will have much more variation in appearance, symmetry, etc. Both are antique style cuts, but the AVC's are rare in that few cushions in the world have such an outstanding cut. If my money tree ever blooms, I would like to have one!

I ADORE that J color one! I think I like the AVC a little more square for me and that one is perfect!

 

[EmmRose]

Here is the video of a J AVC in the Tacori 2620. I worried about contrast between the center stone and the halo, but it's not noticeable to me here. At least in anyway that would be displeasing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwsMqUcz9S8

 

[LittleSparkle]

My engagement ring is a K colored AVC ([URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/bad-pricescoper-fantastic-avc-lm-creation.161471/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/bad-pricescoper-fantastic-avc-lm-creation.161471/[/URL]) and I can honestly say that the color has never once bothered me. It definitely throws off creamy, pastel colors, but it also looks quite white (my side stones are g/h, if that helps) and absolutely doesn't stand out in terms of warmth when compared to my friends' higher colored stones. J/K/L stones aren't for everyone, but I do think that this particular cut really hides the color of the stone.

Just my two cents

But you can't go wrong with an AVC. I am obsessed with my stone and still, STILL, catch myself staring at it several times a day.

 

[ariel144]

Here's another J and faces up large…SI2 …I prefer the strong blue fl. but you will have to check to make sure no haziness in sunlight. Brian Gavin gets a premium for his "Blues" ….Hopefully the inclusions will blend with the faceting:
J color is still in the near colorless range.
and under budget:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10814/

 

[04diamond<3]

Here's another J and faces up large…SI2 …I prefer the strong blue fl. but you will have to check to make sure no haziness in sunlight. Brian Gavin gets a premium for his "Blues" ….Hopefully the inclusions will blend with the faceting:
J color is still in the near colorless range.
and under budget:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10814/

I also like this option and love SBF! And the fact that it's under budget!

 

[04diamond<3]

Here's another J and faces up large…SI2 …I prefer the strong blue fl. but you will have to check to make sure no haziness in sunlight. Brian Gavin gets a premium for his "Blues" ….Hopefully the inclusions will blend with the faceting:
J color is still in the near colorless range.
and under budget:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10814/

I also like this option and love SBF! And the fact that it's under budget!