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naruto267

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Hello, i was starting my search for a engagement ring diamond and found this site. There seem to be some very knowledgeable people on this forum and i was hoping for some help in searching for a diamond. She already found the setting she likes so i'm just looking for the diamond. My coworkers were recommending bluenile but it seem there are other options recommended on this forum. My budget is a soft 5k for the diamond. Looking for a round diamond around 1ct.
 

Gypsy

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Show us the setting while you are at it. Please. You wouldn't believe the 'near misses' people have had with setting quality, that we have saved them from.

"Around" 5k for a one carat well cut round isn't going to get you a carat without some sacrifices to color. You are looking at I color with that budget, which is still very nice. Tiffany carries I color stones, so if you need to see them in person, I would suggest you go there.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-703899
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.00-carat-i-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-817286
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.00-carat-i-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-817289 (probably the one I'd get in the I color range)

When you say 'soft' does that mean you can go to 6k? If so you can get H color, which is a more conservative choice:
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.00-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-927364
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.12-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-1007206 (what I'd get in the H color range).
 

naruto267

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Gypsy|1458628763|4009235 said:
Show us the setting while you are at it. Please. You wouldn't believe the 'near misses' people have had with setting quality, that we have saved them from.

"Around" 5k for a one carat well cut round isn't going to get you a carat without some sacrifices to color. You are looking at I color with that budget, which is still very nice. Tiffany carries I color stones, so if you need to see them in person, I would suggest you go there.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-703899
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.00-carat-i-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-817286
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.00-carat-i-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-817289 (probably the one I'd get in the I color range)

When you say 'soft' does that mean you can go to 6k? If so you can get H color, which is a more conservative choice:
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.00-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-927364
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.12-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-1007206 (what I'd get in the H color range).
The H color one you recommends says it has a strong blue fluorescence. I read that it makes the diamond looks milky. Its that true?

What do you think of this diamond?
http://images.b2cjewels.com/Images//Certificate//8071844.pdf
 

JDDN

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Strong blue fluorescence should be fine, but you will need to check with the vendor and ask if there is any milky/hazy affects of the fluorescence. It can look bluish in sunlight so you have to be sure your intended is okay with that.

The diamond you linked looks nice. I would ask if it's "eye clean" and at what distance they define eye clean.

Also, with any vendor check the return policy in terms of how long you have once you receive the diamond/ring, what is and isn't returnable, and if you will have to pay any restocking fees.
 

Dancing Fire

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[quote="naruto267|

The H color one you recommends says it has a strong blue fluorescence. I read that it makes the diamond looks milky. Its that true?

What do you think of this diamond?
http://images.b2cjewels.com/Images//Certificate//8071844.pdf[/quote]


The odds of any negative effect is very slim.
 

ADN

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Dancing Fire|1458689846|4009597 said:
[quote="naruto267|

The H color one you recommends says it has a strong blue fluorescence. I read that it makes the diamond looks milky. Its that true?

What do you think of this diamond?
http://images.b2cjewels.com/Images//Certificate//8071844.pdf

The odds of any negative effect is very slim.[/quote]

Hi - :wavey: - Just a comment to the OP to carry on with the fluoro thread, and to back up what other members have mentioned...odds are that strong fluoro will not impact the stone negatively, but just make sure you check with your vendor and confirm this. Also, if strong fluoro actually is detrimental to the diamond (hazy/milky/etc), it's likely going to be a heavily discounted price - so just keep in mind that if you find a diamond that is priced well below other similar stones with the same amount of fluoro, you might want to take extra care. The good thing for you about strong fluoro (even if there is no negative impact), is that because of normal trade discounts for strong/very strong, you may be able to afford a diamond that would otherwise be outside of your price range - so if I were on a tight budget, I would actually include 'strong' in my search parameters, and just get confirmation before purchase that it doesn't affect the stone in normal conditions.
Hope this helps
 

naruto267

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thanks everybody for the reply's. I send a email asking the vendor for that information. Still searching to see what else is out there.
 

Gypsy

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naruto267|1458657543|4009377 said:
Hi Gypsy, thanks for the quick response. The setting she wants is a verragio 5051r. I linked it below. Yes my budget can move to 6 k if needed. https://www.verragio.com/Verragio-Engagement-Rings/Venetian-Engagement-Rings/VENETIAN-5051R?slide=

Oh boy. So many issues.

First, that setting is so impractical for every day wear it makes my head ache just looking at it. So your lady needs to know that. If she gets that setting she just shouldn't wear it in the house. Just out, and not to work out, or garden, or any thing like that. I wouldn't even wear it to sleep. I cracked a diamond in my halo when I was asleep one night. Just knocked it against the nightstand just right and crack!

Second, Verragio is very overpriced for the quality. I know jewelers that have gotten in samples of their settings in and refused to carry the line. It looks like cheap Chinese mass produced pave in person. Has your lady seen it in person?

6k is a LOT of money. You could afford a very nice custom setting that is much better quality in a similar design. Unless it is important for your lady to have the brand name and it is important for some.

I suggest you guys see the settings in person. And also look at Tacori ,which is similar in price and name recognition, but much better in terms of quality.

Here is a good thread for you to read: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/time-to-select-a-setting.218654/page-2']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/time-to-select-a-setting.218654/page-2[/URL]
 

naruto267

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hi Gypsy, wow I didn't know that brand was bad. She did go see it in person and she like the flower halo on top with the twisted shank on the side (I think that's what its called). I think she really wanted to twist to go all the way around. If I give the verragio image to on of the custom makers from the thread you sent would they beable to replicate?
 

RetroTreeGal

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Good reference thread, Gypsy!
OP- the ring in the thread Gypsy posted was custom made by one of the best ring makers in the country, has similar features to what you are looking for, is one of a kind, is much more durable, and it was likely less money than a stock Verragio setting. I see no downside here. :lol:
 

naruto267

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He some more detail images of the ring she likes. You can see the floral like halo and the twist in the shank that she likes. All the rings are verragio. Funny think is we didn't even know what verragio was. She just saw the pictures and hunted down the ring.





She like the gallery of this ring



And the lace shank of this.



You think the custom ring makers would make something like this from another designer?

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Gypsy

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Okay, well if she saw it in PERSON and liked it, then just make sure you get it from an authorized retailer.

It's not a BAD brand. Just overpriced for the quality.

Have you talked to her about the durability issues of the setting style?

Please share the below threads with her.

Pave:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/which-online-retailer-for-a-custom-setting.203660/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/which-online-retailer-for-a-custom-setting.203660/[/URL]
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/what-do-you-all-think-of-this-stone.219137/page-2#post-3981481#p3981481']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/what-do-you-all-think-of-this-stone.219137/page-2#post-3981481#p3981481[/URL]

Okay?

Also ask her if she like design below this one as much. Modified to have the lacy profile she likes. This would be a good one to have custom made, would be a less fragile design, and I would recommend you have it made by Brilliantly Engaged or David Klass via CAD.

We can help you with the CADs.

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