Date: 3/10/2008 10:48:03 AM
Author: LegacyGirl
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Date: 3/10/2008 4:13:31 PM
Author: MaraO
We are an intermediary for all auctions and can guarantee the goods that are sold on the site simply because we have a GIA-certified gemologist verify all jewelry when we receive the items after the close of an auction.
Ditto, well said.Date: 3/10/2008 4:37:03 PM
Author: enbcfsobe
I am glad that someone from this site finally responded in this forum, but I think many of us will still be troubled by the fact that while a gemologist is supposedly guaranteeing the authenticity of all rings sold through this site, it took the vigilance of non-jeweler members of this community to figure out that the pictures are not pictures of the rings that are actually being sold, and that pictures within the same listing are not pictures of the same ring. If their gemologist cannot figure this out, what is their guarantee worth??
ETA: AGBF, GMTA!
Also, how about being proactive and reporting this scam artist to her probation officer??
Exactly what I was going to say!Date: 3/10/2008 4:37:03 PM
Author: enbcfsobe
I am glad that someone from this site finally responded in this forum, but I think many of us will still be troubled by the fact that while a gemologist is supposedly guaranteeing the authenticity of all rings sold through this site, it took the vigilance of non-jeweler members of this community to figure out that the pictures are not pictures of the rings that are actually being sold, and that pictures within the same listing are not pictures of the same ring. If their gemologist cannot figure this out, what is their guarantee worth??
ETA: AGBF, GMTA!
Also, how about being proactive and reporting this scam artist to her probation officer??
Date: 3/10/2008 4:37:03 PM
Author: enbcfsobe
I am glad that someone from this site finally responded in this forum, but I think many of us will still be troubled by the fact that while a gemologist is supposedly guaranteeing the authenticity of all rings sold through this site, it took the vigilance of non-jeweler members of this community to figure out that the pictures are not pictures of the rings that are actually being sold, and that pictures within the same listing are not pictures of the same ring. If their gemologist cannot figure this out, what is their guarantee worth??
Date: 3/10/2008 8:36:58 PM
Author: CaptAubrey
Also, the term ''GIA certified'' with respect to gemologists or diamonds is frowned up, both by GIA and much of the community, though it''s often used anyway. The correct term is ''GG,'' ''GIA Graduate Gemologist'' or similar terminology.
Show me the ring. One forum below RT.Date: 3/11/2008 12:50:29 AM
Author: Kissmark
Off topic but what is SMTR? tia
That's what I was thinking as well... and was hoping that because she was posting pics that didn't match any item she may or may not have had, that was an indication that nothing had sold and been verified (or not as the case may be).Date: 3/10/2008 8:36:58 PM
Author: CaptAubrey
Date: 3/10/2008 4:37:03 PM
Author: enbcfsobe
I am glad that someone from this site finally responded in this forum, but I think many of us will still be troubled by the fact that while a gemologist is supposedly guaranteeing the authenticity of all rings sold through this site, it took the vigilance of non-jeweler members of this community to figure out that the pictures are not pictures of the rings that are actually being sold, and that pictures within the same listing are not pictures of the same ring. If their gemologist cannot figure this out, what is their guarantee worth??
Keep in mind that we don't know yet whether this person actually sold anything that was offered under the purloined photos. It's possible that we caught this thing before it went very far. If so, their gemologist may not have had the chance to do any comparisons.
To MaraO:
The above notwithstanding, it would be a good idea to have your gemologist check the auction listings and compare the offering to the jewel, if s/he isn't doing that already.
Also, the term 'GIA certified' with respect to gemologists or diamonds is frowned up, both by GIA and much of the community, though it's often used anyway. The correct term is 'GG,' 'GIA Graduate Gemologist' or similar terminology.
What we are asking it that from this day forward the ring not only be verified against the cert. but the pictures and discription the seller uploaded.Date: 3/11/2008 12:34:10 PM
Author: MaraO
Sellers post rings on our site with descriptions and pictures of the items for sale. Once an auction has successfully closed, the seller sends us the ring and the buyer sends us their money, which we hold in escrow until our gemologist verifies the seller's ring against the certificate that they send.
Date: 3/11/2008 12:46:37 PM
Author: strmrdr
What we are asking it that from this day forward the ring not only be verified against the cert. but the pictures and discription the seller uploaded.
Date: 3/10/2008 6:23:33 PM
Author: beau13
I just want to add that when people like PS members post pics (of themselves,their family, their jewelry, personal belongings), it''s VERY easy for others to ''steal'' those photos and do what they please with them. Unfortunately the internet, and public forums such as this one, is just that... PUBLIC! Maybe sites like Pricescope, could set up the site so that only members can see the pics, and read posts...however, it is not set up this way, so anyone can read and view what is going on here! If you don''t want your pics to fall into the wrong hands, then don''t post them. I have had many of my ring pics ''stolen'', ''borrowed''..etc...and I don''t make a big deal of it...because I know that is the risk I take when I post a photo! I don''t post photos of my children or husband for everyone to view because I respect their privacy, and god knows where those pics (especially of chidren) could end up being displayed on the internet. Many strange individuals out there ! Just something to think about!
Ha!Date: 3/11/2008 2:23:45 PM
Author: CaptAubrey
Date: 3/11/2008 12:46:37 PM
Author: strmrdr
What we are asking it that from this day forward the ring not only be verified against the cert. but the pictures and discription the seller uploaded.
As I said, this would seem like a simple and wise thing to be doing, given that IDNID's business model is built around verifying the seller's representations.
A further note for the mods: Given the way this thread has evolved, that we've determined that the guilty party was a third-party seller and not IDNID, and that they are now here making a good-faith effort to explain themselves, I think it would be fair to change the thread title to something more neutral. A lot of people who might pull this thread up on a search aren't going to have the stamina to get to the 9th page.
Date: 3/11/2008 3:50:56 PM
Author: idreamofice
MaraO - I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I do not regret starting this thread because I feel that due to it we have uncovered many ''stolen'' photos from the seller in question. BUT I feel I DO owe IDNID an apology for the title of this thread.
I can''t seem to edit the title or my original post.....Is there a way to do this?
Wow. Using the prudence of "if it''s not MINE, don''t use it" doesn''t apply here huh? So I can locate this person''s picture on the internet, start a webpage with a fictional character and their image and it''s a compliment then? Even if the person on this webpage is described as a criminal? Ok, sounds like a plan!Date: 3/25/2008 3:25:30 PM
Author: sillysimms
I had sent an email to the ''contact'' page on the seller''s website at diamonddirectbuy several weeks ago and just got a response:
''Hello
I am a broker and do not stock my jewlery I offer great deals because I
sell direct.
the photos you are refering to are used NOT as bait BUT an example what a
ring will look like. Once you put any diamond into a setting of your
choice they all end up looking thesame. The photos are a catalog.
Just like if you get a catalog in the mail and go to the store to purchase
the ring YOU ARE NOT BUYING THE ACTUAL ONE from the PHOTO just one LIKE
IT!
I have my website info listed as well .As information that I have to check
availability of a particular diamond before anyone buys it. So people know
that I am not a individual they can see all my listings and a lot of loose
diamond photos are stock photos..... what is wrong with that?
So I really do not understand your anger over this?
Was your picture one of them? they are not copyrighted and I would take
it as a complement if my ring was used as a example.''
She thinks that once you put a diamond in a setting, they all look the same!!!
Date: 3/25/2008 3:25:30 PM
Author: sillysimms
I had sent an email to the ''contact'' page on the seller''s website at diamonddirectbuy several weeks ago and just got a response:
So I really do not understand your anger over this?
Was your picture one of them? they are not copyrighted and I would take
it as a complement if my ring was used as a example.''