- Apr 23, 2018
Yep. My bff just got engaged with a sterling silver ring with a small moonstone.I think in addition to forums being somewhat passé, diamonds are falling out of popularity a little bit too. I mean many of us still love them, clearly, but often, engagement rings are the only diamond many people will ever buy, and not everyone gets married anymore. Also, many people specifically *don’t* want an earth mined diamond for an engagement ring, for myriad reasons. Heck, Emma Stone is worth millions of dollars and just got engaged with a pearl.
Sledge, I am really puzzled by your post. It appears you don't know that there are vendor sponsors of this site. They pay to be listed and advertise here. Some of them have stones listed in the diamond search, and they can tell when a stone is puchased through that link. It's been that way from the start, as far as I know. I know it has since I joined in 2006. I can assure you freedom of speech has not been impaired. If someone complains about a sponsoring vendor, they certainly are not banned from the forum. Here are the forum sponsors, FYI:My only fear with using vendor dollars to fund this site is the potential for freedom of speech to be impaired.
I've seen it happen before elsewhere. Vendor A pays $X to the forum. All is great if the mods and users push that product. But if someone has a bad experience and says something negative, they get a warning and/or ban for it. Then another user or two gets irritated and questions that and they too get banned. Next thing you know, a large group breaks off and creates a new (competing) forum.
I get it -- the forum is trying to support the vendor that paid money to support the forum. But the harsh reality is that sometimes vendors do stuff or have products that suck and they (and others) need to hear it.
Not to pick on anyone, but how do you think JA would feel if they paid money to sponsor this site? I utilize them because they get picked on for their TH line that is't always true to the name. Or prior to them blocking certs, basically selling the same virtual inventory stones available elsewhere except at higher costs. Or most recently, their decision to block certs and the rumblings that came as a result so they could basically sell the same stones available elsewhere at other sites for higher prices, but without any proof it was the same stone, lol.
If the forum is taking their dollars, does that mean they will start censoring/banning users when the user opinion turns against the vendor? Will the vendor cease their support?
There are also benefits. I love the fact that WF, HPD, VC, JA and others contribute here. I think having that vendor/trade adds value to the site as a whole.
How cool would it be to see this forum work together with some of these vendors to do studies and tests on various subjects. For instance, the topic of fluor is what spawned this entire thread. There are some strong opinions on both sides, and it would be interesting to see a study with several vendors, maybe a few prosumers and some outside GIA/AGS people.
I think there is a way to network and grow the vendor relationships here, while possibly getting some monetary support. But it has to be done right. I think a simple thing that could happen is make trades pay for their membership. Maybe even have different tiers. And at a certain tier, a sub-forum could be created for that vendor so they could freely discuss their products, special pricing, group buys, etc.
Then vendors could start to see any direct relationships to PS and sales. Also, it may entice more people to sign up and participate.
I don't think my intention with this thread (after reading all opinions and thoughtful responses) is to increase the number of people signing up.
I want to help more lurker visitor people in their pursuit of buying a nice diamond and putting it into a great setting.
The elitist idea is that when people are told they MUST only buy a diamond with 56.3 - 57.2% table, 34.3 to 34.7 degree crown blah blah - and it must be supa dupa blood and guts cut etc
That we frighten them off.
I think there is a misunderstanding there:Sorry, didn't mean to confuse anyone.
In the case with the search engine, PS only receives dollars if a stone is recommended and the buyer utilizes the link with affiliate ID, correct?
What is different is the principles the original owner and founder set for the forum.I agree it seems different here. I've not been censored or banned for speaking my opinions.
We have an emailed newsletter with all of that...@Johnbt That could be an idea. There are all types of ways to drive engagement and registration. A lot of companies use things like giveaways and discount codes to get people to sign up, although what PS has as its asset is knowledge (or referral privileges for existing members) or if PS had a newsletter with highlighted posts, or “tip of the week” or include “jewel of the week” and other fun ways to engage people to register to get a newsletter. you could have pop ups that when you identify a “lurker” it can prompt them to register or ask “do you need help?” With links or something to helpful sticky posts.
There’s the opposite approach (like paywalls for digital newspapers) where you only get to see a few posts before you have to register. There are pros and cons.
id think about different digital campaign strategies, decide if it’s multi channel or single (are you open to driving traffic with an instagram or email newsletters?) -I’d guess there’s already a great amount of traffic being driven to the forum given the sheer amount of content, and a cohort of very dedicated and passionate members - oftentimes people need more than just passion to stick around and like rewards (it’s called contingency management theory or operant conditioning and it’s so far been proven pretty effective)
I’m just spitballing and don’t mean to derail the thread. Someone with more expertise in digital would probably give much better advice. I know enough to be dangerous and have ideas but definitely unable to execute. PS is a special forum!!!
good to know! I didn't know that as a new user, maybe a prompt / notification could be helpful. but i am not trying to imply that some of these things haven't been considered or executed at all!We have an emailed newsletter with all of that...
I was letting you know. Maybe check your junk folder? It comes one a week. I’ve been here so long I don’t remember how it came for me to get it.good to know! I didn't know that as a new user, maybe a prompt / notification could be helpful. but i am not trying to imply that some of these things haven't been considered or executed at all!
agree this could be a separate thread and didn't mean to hijack