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3.95-Carat Pastel Green Sapphire - Thoughts & Setting Opinion?

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I am currently obsessed with this stone from the NSC: 3.95-Carat Pastel Green Sapphire.


It looks so brilliant and I love the color!
What do you think? The price is great too, for a virtually flawless, "no evidence of heat" sapphire.

Remember my pear diamond ring from this thread - pictures toward the bottom of 1st page: Estate Pear Diamond Ring ? Well, WF is setting the pear into a necklace for me, so I will have a setting left over.

I want to have the setting modified to accommodate this sapphire. The pear was 12.25 x 7.83 x 4.57 mm. The proposed sapphire is 8.30 x 7.95 x 6.32 mm. The pear was set high, so I don''t imagine depth being a problem.

I guess what I envisioned was the 5th prong that held the point of the diamond removed and the basket with the remaining 4 prongs made continuous. Those 4 prongs are roughly square with one another. Therefore I''m thinking that the 8 mm square (approximately) cushion should fit with a minor modification.

Do you this this is do-able? If not, would it be hard to just replace the main basket and keep the baguettes intact?
 

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I don''t know how much "life" this stone has. It is awfully bottom heavy, the culet looks off center and the symmetry looks off too...
 

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I love the color of the sapphire, but I think it needs a re-cut. The stone looks really deep, so you probably won''t loose much if any diameter if they recut it.
 

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Hi Chrono. Thanks for your thoughts. I know what you mean, but I thought the symmetry appearance had more to do with the orientation of the stone in the photo. I don't mind off-center culets - sometimes they are better!

Did you watch the video? It looked pretty symmetrical to me in the video. What are you seeing that is bothersome?

The stone is deep, but like culets, that's a call that the cutter makes in order to maximize the face-up appearance of the stone. I wouldn't think that the NSC carries poorly cut stones.

Why do you not think the stone has much life? I thought it looked really lively! Hmm.
 

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Maybe it's my aging eyes or the picture, but the face up symmetry seems off to me. It's not a squarish cushion square, one side is fatter and the other side is sort of skewed. I guess I'd better go watch the video. Somtimes, stones that have a shallow crown with deep bellies don't sparkle well (well, sparkle or have as much brillliance in the coloured stone way). I am only guessing on this based on the picture.

Update:
Just viewed the video. How did I miss that link?
Anyway, my eye still detected the off symmetry. Sorry but my eyes are anal like that.
The stone sure looked very brilliant. I also noted the light reflective base it is sitting on. I wonder if that has any effect on the brilliance of the sapphire? I also noted the crown of the stone was cut differently, termed fancy crown by NSC. Perhaps that is what is helping the sapphire look more sparkley?
 

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How about calling them and asking them their opnions of the stone?? I did that when I bought my sapphire ring from them. Good luck!!!
 

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Date: 4/13/2007 4:06:17 PM
Author: Kaleigh
How about calling them and asking them their opnions of the stone?? I did that when I bought my sapphire ring from them. Good luck!!!
Hi Kaleigh. Yes, I had the same thought - ah, great minds!


I spoke with Steven who told me the stone is blinding-ly brilliant. I couldn't stand it, so I'm having the stone sent to me for inspection.

Chrono and KC, I'll let you know how the symmetry looks in real life and if it's "too deep". I know sometimes with lighter color sapphires, they are cut deeper so they don't have a window. This one does not seem to have a window.

Any thoughts on the setting? Does it make sense to try the retrofit?
 

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Cool. Steven is a straight shooter, I really respect him. Let me go back and look at the setting idea.
 

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Gosh it looks doable but am no expert. Do you have a good bench jeweler??
 

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Date: 4/13/2007 4:23:56 PM
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Gosh it looks doable but am no expert. Do you have a good bench jeweler??
Yes, there's a local guy here who is great. There's usually at least a 2-3-week-wait minimum because he's so sought-after.

Steven offered to take a look at the setting and make the adjustment if it's possible. Do you (or anyone) have any experience with their benchwork?
 

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Date: 4/13/2007 4:29:25 PM
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Date: 4/13/2007 4:23:56 PM
Author: Kaleigh
Gosh it looks doable but am no expert. Do you have a good bench jeweler??
Yes, there''s a local guy here who is great. There''s usually at least a 2-3-week-wait minimum because he''s so sought-after.

Steven offered to take a look at the setting and make the adjustment if it''s possible. Do you (or anyone) have any experience with their benchwork?
They guy they use used to work for Cartier, doesn''t get better than that. I asked because the setting looked very much like something Leon Mege would have done, slender claw prongs. And he told me the story of this bench jeweler...
 

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Hi Kaleigh - that sound encouraging!

However, I don't hold out much hope - I spoke to Leon at WF, gave him the sapphire dimensions, and he told me I'd be better off with a new setting to the tune of $2200. Yikes! That seemed kinda high considering I already have the side diamonds in my original setting.

Sorry to those folks reading this thread and trying to use the link to the NSC - for some reason, the link has been de-activated. Maybe the NSC is really confident that I'll love the stone! I thought "Out on Memo" would have displayed for more than a few hours anyway. Sorry!

So the sapphire is due to arrive on Monday - can't wait!
Although I'm a little afraid that I'll love the stone and not be able to re-use the setting. That would stink!
 

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Starryeyed,
I''m afraid I can''t be of much here. I can''t find the stone or video on the website. Do take pixs when it arrives. Maybe I''ll be able to chime in then. Sorry.
 

Kaleigh

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Can''t wait for Monday, get that camera ready!!!
 

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Your pear is GORGEOUS
 

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Thanks Skippy! I'm having a necklace made for my wedding. WF is doing it for me, which is why they have the setting.

Harriet, KC, Kaleigh, I'll be sure to have the camera charged and ready!
 

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Also, I love the color of that sapphire. Sooooo jealous (in a good way).
 

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Date: 4/14/2007 10:51:28 PM
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Also, I love the color of that sapphire. Sooooo jealous (in a good way).
thanks Skippy! Other than the depth, I think it looks like a green cushion-cut diamond.
 

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hey Starry, can you please post picture of your setting and some dimensions? I like the color of this stone and would love to help you to fit it into the old setting ...
 

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sapphire looks lovely!! pictures when you get it?!
I hope you can figure something out with the setting you already have.
 

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Date: 4/15/2007 3:57:01 PM
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hey Starry, can you please post picture of your setting and some dimensions? I like the color of this stone and would love to help you to fit it into the old setting ...
Hi Irina!
I''d love your help!

Below are the photos from an appraisal - sorry this is the best I have, other than the pictures of the ring from the thread referenced above. WF has my setting or I''d take more.

Icekid, I''m hoping the sapphire arrives tomorrow - I''m not sure if the storm has delayed UPS at all. The weekend wait nearly killed me!
 

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Here it is. Not sure why the image is so small. Again, the stone dimensions were/are:

Pear: 12.25 x 7.83 x 4.57 mm
Sapphire: 8.30 x 7.95 x 6.32 mm

Thanks!


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Hmmm, let's wait till you get the stone and first - see if you like it (take your time, move it around the room, outside, take it to the bathroom
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Then ask yourself if the perimeter is symmetrical enough for you, it's very important imho. I am not talking about off-square, but is it a rectangle or a trapezoid?
 

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Hi Irina. I understand what you are saying. I''m waiting with bated breath for the UPS truck!
 

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That sapphire is so beautiful, can''t wait to see it in a setting. Irina, LOL, take it to the bathroom, LOL LOL, that is what I do, ha ha ha ha ha, with my stones. You made me laugh.



Linda
 

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So the sapphire arrived today. I am a bit disappointed. The NSC site said the sapphire clarity was "Perfection (IF, VVS1)". You will see a noticeable fissure in the images below. Steven told me that "Perfection" does not mean internally flawless - he said inclusions are to be expected. This just seems more like an SI stone. Hmm.

GreenSapp2.jpg
 

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There is also a window near the culet, which you will see in a few shots below.

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