Will you get the Covid 19 Booster vaccine when it is available to you?
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I don’t think we know. Moderna’s side effects were slightly worse than Pfizer’s especially for women. But did that extra confer slightly greater protection? Or is it unnecessary? I would be ok with half the Moderna with the flu vaccine as long as the flu vaccine is preservative free. The same flu vaccine I get yearly.
And if we’re getting a yearly Covid vaccine perhaps we don’t need to go full on with the dose?
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Grammie has just had a brilliant idea! I’m going to take pot gummies to try to knock me out for a bit. Finally I can get some sleep I hope!
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Grammie has just had a brilliant idea! I’m going to take pot gummies to try to knock me out for a bit
I love my CBD gummies. Sweet dreams zzz
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Moderna also has more vaccine in the shot than Pfizer. Maybe we don’t need as much..
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Yes, I want a booster! My DH is a college professor and will be required to teach in person in Sept at a major university. Unfortunately our TX governor says there can't be mask oe vaccine requirements. . So DH and I are feeling very vulnerable. We got vaccinated in the early spring so I think its been over six months already. I know several people IRL who have had breakthrough infections and while they didn't land in the hospital thankfully, the infections weren't mild, and the folks were healthy middle aged adults like us. So we are worried and definitely want a booster.
We were flying home from CA recently and while we were queuing up for our flight, the in-airport health center people where coming around asking if anyone wanted a free, quick J&J one dose vaccine. I have to admit DH and I were very tempted. I know that that would be diving into the unknown since we already have had our two doses of Moderna. But knowing he's going into a large classroom of unmasked and probably unvaccinated teenagers very soon made getting a third dose extremely appealing. We didn't do it but still wonder if maybe we should have.
We did think too, that giving people shots right before they got onto an airplane was a little weird and not the best idea (what if they had a reaction while in the air?)
. So DH and I are feeling very vulnerable. We got vaccinated in the early spring so I think its been over six months already. I know several people IRL who have had breakthrough infections and while they didn't land in the hospital thankfully, the infections weren't mild, and the folks were healthy middle aged adults like us. So we are worried and definitely want a booster. We were flying home from CA recently and while we were queuing up for our flight, the in-airport health center people where coming around asking if anyone wanted a free, quick J&J one dose vaccine. I have to admit DH and I were very tempted. I know that that would be diving into the unknown since we already have had our two doses of Moderna. But knowing he's going into a large classroom of unmasked and probably unvaccinated teenagers very soon made getting a third dose extremely appealing. We didn't do it but still wonder if maybe we should have.
We did think too, that giving people shots right before they got onto an airplane was a little weird and not the best idea (what if they had a reaction while in the air?)
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Me too!
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I'm having my booster in precisely 5 hours. Moderna x 3.
I have Crohn's disease and am on heavy duty immunosuppressant drugs, so the load of antibodies I have on board after two shots will be markedly lower than for a person who isn't on immunosuppressant drugs. - possibly close to zero. If we produce antibodies at all after the second shot, it's markedly less than the average, healthy person. (I believe the average antibody load for a twice vaccinated person on immunosuppressant drugs is between 4 and 30 percent that of a fully vaccinated person who is NOT on IS drugs). A lot of people on Immunosuppressant drugs don't produce ANY antibodies in response to the first two shots, but about a third of those did produce an appreciable antibody load after a third shot.
So, for me, having a third shot is like a healthy person having their first or second shot. I'm just not fully vaccinated as yet, and may well not be after the third shot either; for those who produced no antibodies after the first or second shots, 2/3 remain fully unvaccinated after a third shot. So a third shot for the immunocompromised is not just an indulgence. We're playing serious catch-up compared to other people.
ETA This is the latest science as it's been presented to me. But studies are being run all the time and I'm sure this information will morph and change over time. The general thrust of it, tho, will remain the same.
I have Crohn's disease and am on heavy duty immunosuppressant drugs, so the load of antibodies I have on board after two shots will be markedly lower than for a person who isn't on immunosuppressant drugs. - possibly close to zero. If we produce antibodies at all after the second shot, it's markedly less than the average, healthy person. (I believe the average antibody load for a twice vaccinated person on immunosuppressant drugs is between 4 and 30 percent that of a fully vaccinated person who is NOT on IS drugs). A lot of people on Immunosuppressant drugs don't produce ANY antibodies in response to the first two shots, but about a third of those did produce an appreciable antibody load after a third shot.
So, for me, having a third shot is like a healthy person having their first or second shot. I'm just not fully vaccinated as yet, and may well not be after the third shot either; for those who produced no antibodies after the first or second shots, 2/3 remain fully unvaccinated after a third shot. So a third shot for the immunocompromised is not just an indulgence. We're playing serious catch-up compared to other people.
ETA This is the latest science as it's been presented to me. But studies are being run all the time and I'm sure this information will morph and change over time. The general thrust of it, tho, will remain the same.
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Good luck @mrs-b, I am glad you are getting the booster today!
We stopped wearing masks for a few weeks after we received both doses. But we started again as soon as we realized the variants were raging and we will be doing so for the rest of the pandemic. The evidence is clear nothing is 100% so every thing we do helps.
We stopped wearing masks for a few weeks after we received both doses. But we started again as soon as we realized the variants were raging and we will be doing so for the rest of the pandemic. The evidence is clear nothing is 100% so every thing we do helps.
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It looks like the Federal Government will be recommending a booster shot for everyone who has received two shots or is fully vaccinated.
www.wsj.com
www.theguardian.com
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WASHINGTON—The Biden administration is expected to announce that Americans who have been fully vaccinated against Covid-19 should receive a booster shot to ensure continued protection, according to people familiar with the discussions.
The booster shot would be administered eight months after the second dose of the vaccine was received, the people said.
Senior Biden administration health and medical officials have been discussing the possibility of calling for booster shots for weeks and are nearing agreement on the issue, said the people, who added that a final decision hasn’t been made. A formal announcement could come as soon as later this week.
The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this month that the Biden administration was preparing a booster-shot strategy, and that the shots could be needed as soon as in the next few weeks for people who were first to be vaccinated.
Pfizer Inc. and partnerBioNTech SE, the companies behind a two-dose Covid-19 vaccine, are seeking clearance from the Food and Drug Administration to provide booster shots to the general public. If the FDA greenlights the shots, the first doses could be distributed in September, the people said, as the first Americans who were vaccinated reach the eight-month window.
Pfizer is furthest along in the regulatory approval process, so the initial booster shots could go to Americans who received that vaccine. Moderna Inc., which also produces a two-dose vaccine, has said it plans to ask regulators next month to authorize its booster shots. Johnson & Johnson is expected to release data about the efficacy of two doses of its single-shot vaccine later this month.
The question of whether additional shots are needed to protect people against Covid-19 has come into focus amid a surge of infections caused by the Delta variant. Although breakthrough cases in fully vaccinated people are rare, some data has indicated the immunity provided by the vaccines wanes over time.
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Biden Administration Expected to Call for Covid-19 Vaccine Booster Shots
The U.S. is expected to recommend that Americans get a Covid-19 booster shot eight months after the second dose of the vaccine, people familiar with the matter said.
www.wsj.com
US experts expected to recommend Covid booster shots for all
Amid alarm among federal officials about the spread of the Delta variant, authorities are set to recommend a third dose
www.theguardian.com
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The U.S. is expected to recommend that Americans get a Covid-19 booster shot eight months after the second dose of the vaccine, people familiar with the matter say
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WASHINGTON—The Biden administration is expected to announce that Americans who have been fully vaccinated against Covid-19 should receive a booster shot to ensure continued protection, according to people familiar with the discussions.
The booster shot would be administered eight months after the second dose of the vaccine was received, the people said.
Senior Biden administration health and medical officials have been discussing the possibility of calling for booster shots for weeks and are nearing agreement on the issue, said the people, who added that a final decision hasn’t been made. A formal announcement could come as soon as later this week.
The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this month that the Biden administration was preparing a booster-shot strategy, and that the shots could be needed as soon as in the next few weeks for people who were first to be vaccinated.
Pfizer Inc. and partnerBioNTech SE, the companies behind a two-dose Covid-19 vaccine, are seeking clearance from the Food and Drug Administration to provide booster shots to the general public. If the FDA greenlights the shots, the first doses could be distributed in September, the people said, as the first Americans who were vaccinated reach the eight-month window.
Pfizer is furthest along in the regulatory approval process, so the initial booster shots could go to Americans who received that vaccine. Moderna Inc., which also produces a two-dose vaccine, has said it plans to ask regulators next month to authorize its booster shots. Johnson & Johnson is expected to release data about the efficacy of two doses of its single-shot vaccine later this month.
The question of whether additional shots are needed to protect people against Covid-19 has come into focus amid a surge of infections caused by the Delta variant. Although breakthrough cases in fully vaccinated people are rare, some data has indicated the immunity provided by the vaccines wanes over time.
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Well here's an interesting thing.....
I turned up for my third shot today and the pharmacist was running late. When I finally got in, I asked him what the hold up (1/2 an hour) had been. He said he'd "just needed to check something."
A light went off for me and I said....
"Do these vaccines have an expiration date?
"Funny you should ask that," he said. "That's what I was checking."
So one thing lead to another and - turns out, he assured me the expiration date for the vaccine he was about to give me was November this year.
"So what was the confusion?" I asked.
"Well, on the paperwork for the shots, the head pharmacist had written *this*," he said - and showed me the piece of paper identifying the shots for this particular CVS:
"Expires 8/6/2021"
I'm fully aware that people offering vaccinations get reimbursed for the shots in arms, not the vials of vaccine they're sent. Chances of my CVS pulling a swift (as we say in Australia) - very low. But there it was, in big, bold, black letting - August 6th, and no matter which way you cut it, I couldn't unsee that date.
"I think I'm going to take a pass for now," says I.
Came home and made an appointment for this evening, elsewhere.
So today's PSA is....
CHECK THE EXPIRATION DATE ON YOUR VACCINE BEFORE YOU ACCEPT IT.
And if it doesn't seem right to you - go elsewhere.
I turned up for my third shot today and the pharmacist was running late. When I finally got in, I asked him what the hold up (1/2 an hour) had been. He said he'd "just needed to check something."
A light went off for me and I said....
"Do these vaccines have an expiration date?
"Funny you should ask that," he said. "That's what I was checking."
So one thing lead to another and - turns out, he assured me the expiration date for the vaccine he was about to give me was November this year.
"So what was the confusion?" I asked.
"Well, on the paperwork for the shots, the head pharmacist had written *this*," he said - and showed me the piece of paper identifying the shots for this particular CVS:
"Expires 8/6/2021"
I'm fully aware that people offering vaccinations get reimbursed for the shots in arms, not the vials of vaccine they're sent. Chances of my CVS pulling a swift (as we say in Australia) - very low. But there it was, in big, bold, black letting - August 6th, and no matter which way you cut it, I couldn't unsee that date.
"I think I'm going to take a pass for now," says I.
Came home and made an appointment for this evening, elsewhere.
So today's PSA is....
CHECK THE EXPIRATION DATE ON YOUR VACCINE BEFORE YOU ACCEPT IT.
And if it doesn't seem right to you - go elsewhere.
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Thank you! That is kind of scary. Can you tell me which CVS I should a avoid?
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In the words of my toddler, "Um, maybe not today..."
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Great news @wildcat03! I had my last one on 3/22. That would put me into November. I’m 67 so not sure if that changes anything.
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Absolutely. CVS on Washington St.
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Same!
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