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Yenny, I am sending you the biggest hugs. Good luck with your counselor tomorrow. I hope you can find some healing in therapy. A good therapist can be a life saver in tough times.

Something really stuck out to me when reading what you wrote about all of your successes yet you feel like a fraud. It might help to read about “imposter syndrome.” Hopefully, it will help you to feel not so alone. Many people feel just like you do.

Big hugs.

Thanks @House Cat! I'll definitely google imposter syndrome, thank you. I'm sure that I'm not alone and the glass half full way to look at it would be "fake it til you make it", but somehow, I make myself physically ill sometimes, worrying about not being able to do something (facilitating a meeting, managing a youth group event, etc.) Definitely something a good counselor can help me with!

Yenny I adore you and I am glad you are able to share here and it is a catharsis of sorts for you. Sending you big hugs and much love and by the way WOWzer on your new setting. I have to say it is so much better than the original setting. Your initial vision was spot on my dear! And I am sorry I didn't see that right away when you shared pics with me. I agree completely this is heads and heels above the original!!!

You are a kind generous warm and wonderful strong woman and know how many here care about you and know we are here to listen and do whatever else we can. Life is challenging and life is hard. No doubt about it. (((HUGS))).
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Missy, I adore you and almost feel like you gave me a physical hug with your kind words. Thanks for the Bertie love! You were also one who helped guide me to the decision to have her redone and I'm grateful and so glad that you did! Yup, life is hard and we have to learn to weather the ups and downs with grace and aplomb! I'm still working on that, for sure! But this thread has really been tremendously helpful, so thanks for starting it!
 
So I read this thread yesterday and started to post, but then (honestly), felt so overwhelmed at all of the terrible stuff my PS friends are struggling with, I just couldn't form the words.

My problems are trite by comparison (not that anyone could or should compare). I am dealing with crippling anxiety, which has resulted in depression. I am struggling to get out of bed every morning and get through the daily tasks of showering, brushing my teeth, getting kids off to school, meal planning, etc. I know that sounds ridiculous, but when I look at my "to do" list, I get overwhelmed (I am the person who never says "no" to anything or anyone, and as a result, I am the President of several boards and am involved in a million things to the point that there aren't enough hours in the day). My two tweens (11 and 13) have crazy schedules too, and my husband travels, so very often, I'm a single parent, trying to get kids to activities across town from one another at the same time of day (or doing elaborate contortions with other parents to work out who can take and who can pick up...sometimes, I'm afraid I'll just flake and forget someone!) We usually roll into the garage at about 9:45 pm and I'm ready to collapse. I just don't want to do it anymore, but I'm also a firm believer in finishing what you start, which means honoring whatever commitment it is that I've made. I'm slowly extricating myself from these commitments and I do think that life will be calmer at least. I do think that I need to deal with the underlying issues.

The funny thing is, if you met me, you'd never have a clue that I feel completely incompetent about everything in life. I graduated cum laude with a MS from a Top 25 University, I worked at an executive level for some pretty large companies (Accenture, GE, etc.). While I always appeared prepared and confident, inside I felt like the biggest fraud. I feel socially awkward and don't know how to make and cultivate friendships. I feel very isolated and lonely, even when standing in a crowd of people I know.

Like many of you, I use bling as a distraction...unfortunately, my precious sparklies only distract me for so long.

Clearly, I need some help, so I finally reached out to a counselor and have my first appt. on Thursday. Fingers crossed she can help me.

I am sending prayers and hugs to all of you. @missy thanks for starting this thread. I have not said a word about how I'm feeling to a living soul (hubby included), so unburdening myself here feels cathartic and actually helps to provide perspective.

I’m still catching up on this thread, but I resonate SO much with this post. In one of my first therapy sessions I told the counselor “I am a fraud, I have these amazing children and a family who loves me and a great group of friends. Any minute they are all going to figure out the truth, which is that I am a POS who doesn’t deserve any of it.”

It’s a ridiculously classic presentation of anxiety. If every single person went to therapy they’d be better for it!
 
I just got back from therapy. I can't get over how I am nearly 50 and yet again am doing EMDR to reprocess childhood trauma.

She gave me the names of some good books with research into how trauma physically affects the body.
 
I’m still catching up on this thread, but I resonate SO much with this post. In one of my first therapy sessions I told the counselor “I am a fraud, I have these amazing children and a family who loves me and a great group of friends. Any minute they are all going to figure out the truth, which is that I am a POS who doesn’t deserve any of it.”

It’s a ridiculously classic presentation of anxiety. If every single person went to therapy they’d be better for it!

See, but the difference between you and me is that I know a million people, but am not close with any of them. I'm the one they come to if they need something done, but not someone they ask to go shopping with them, kwim? As for my kids, I don't know. I think I project my childhood social/academic anxiety on them, so I can't even gauge if they are happy/well adjusted or not. They both get all As and Bs, but do abominably on standardized tests, so I worry that they won't get into the college of their choice (of course, there are hundreds of schools out there and they will find one that's a good fit, I know that)....socially, my son struggles. He's a dual sport athlete and has almost no free time to cultivate friendships (and the kids on his team's all go to different schools)...my daughter is in the middle of girl drama with the 7 5th grade girls in our hood and I just don't know how to help her. There were no kids my age in my hood growing up, so I never dealt with this stuff....see, I'm a Bona fide mess! o_O I'm sorry you struggle with this stuff too. It's not much fun, is it??
 
Hi Lyra,

Thank you for writing in - I appreciate your advice, I really do.

Yes I'm Canadian. I'm not sure if we can see a psychiatrist - we'll ask his GP when we see him next week. He gave us a card for a psychologist last week. A psychiatrist will likely require a referral (which is fine) and a wait of months but we would be willing to do that. We need help right now too.
If EAP think it's a long term problem (and it is), they'll cut him off. No wonder people are self medicating with drugs and alcohol, they can't get the help they need.

Thanks for listening, again.

Begonia,

Across all provinces both psychiatry and psychology are covered under provincial health care, provided that the psychologist is employed within the public health care system (private practice psychologists are not covered under the provincial health insurance programs, but most people have at least some degree of coverage through their extended health benefits through work).

All psychologists who work within the hospital system or publically funded access centers are salaried employees and are able to be accessed via a referral from a family doctor (or psychiatrist) at no cost. The majority offer outpatient psychotherapy and most major hospitals also offer outpatient CBT groups for both anxiety and depression that can also be really helpful. There are typically wait times to see a psychologist through the public health care system, but the EAP program can probably offer him support until his care can be transferred. I would recommend asking his GP for a referral to your local hospital-based psychology department. Most have central referral systems. The wait time may be less than for a psychiatrist, plus, most GP's have training in prescribing first-line antidepressant medications and will typically want to wait to refer to psychiatry until it is evident that the first-line medications are not effective.

Plus, as a Canadian, there are no issues regarding work or health insurance based on an individual's health history (other than when applying for privately funded long term disability insurance when you are self employed). Extended health benefits policies offered through the workplace cannot ask about your health history, nor can a potential employer ask about your health history unless it is specific to an issue of workplace safety (for example, pilots are required to report mental and physical health conditions that might affect their ability to fly, but otherwise, your health is not your employers business, nor will health care providers release information without consent per the Personal Health Information Act).

I hope that he is able to get some help.
 
See, but the difference between you and me is that I know a million people, but am not close with any of them. I'm the one they come to if they need something done, but not someone they ask to go shopping with them, kwim? As for my kids, I don't know. I think I project my childhood social/academic anxiety on them, so I can't even gauge if they are happy/well adjusted or not. They both get all As and Bs, but do abominably on standardized tests, so I worry that they won't get into the college of their choice (of course, there are hundreds of schools out there and they will find one that's a good fit, I know that)....socially, my son struggles. He's a dual sport athlete and has almost no free time to cultivate friendships (and the kids on his team's all go to different schools)...my daughter is in the middle of girl drama with the 7 5th grade girls in our hood and I just don't know how to help her. There were no kids my age in my hood growing up, so I never dealt with this stuff....see, I'm a Bona fide mess! o_O I'm sorry you struggle with this stuff too. It's not much fun, is it??
Aww Yenny. I may have been you in my younger Mom days.
I was trying so hard to show I was competent and 'worth something'. I was VP of HOA and over-volunteered at kids school, blahblahblah. Always the person people asked for a favor. I had lost track of ME. I had also been an accomplished professional person and my husband travelled all the time.

I instituted a new rule and developed an all-purpose new saying.
Whenever anyone asked for anything---I told them I would sleep on it and let them know the next day. It was awesome. It stopped me from saying 'yes' all the time.

I will also say that my behavior was in large part an avoidance of the elephant in the living room.
I was in a miserable marriage and trying to prove I was valuable or worthy. Stupid.
Stop worrying about pleasing others--block out time/money to do something that makes YOU happy or fulfilled.
 
Aww Yenny. I may have been you in my younger Mom days.
I was trying so hard to show I was competent and 'worth something'. I was VP of HOA and over-volunteered at kids school, blahblahblah. Always the person people asked for a favor. I had lost track of ME. I had also been an accomplished professional person and my husband travelled all the time.

I instituted a new rule and developed an all-purpose new saying.
Whenever anyone asked for anything---I told them I would sleep on it and let them know the next day. It was awesome. It stopped me from saying 'yes' all the time.

I will also say that my behavior was in large part an avoidance of the elephant in the living room.
I was in a miserable marriage and trying to prove I was valuable or worthy. Stupid.
Stop worrying about pleasing others--block out time/money to do something that makes YOU happy or fulfilled.

@Elizabeth35 thanks for having the courage to respond. Your post resonated with me in so many ways. I like the idea of saying "let me think about it and get back to you" approach. I also need to stop letting guilt drive me (the "I'm a stay at home Mom with the time to do xyz, how can I say no?" mentality). I'm sorry that your marriage was toxic to you. Mine is far from perfect, but my DH is a good guy with a good heart. He sometimes doesn't "get" my feelings (the few times I've tried to explain), but he tries hard. I guess that's enough...

Please tell me that your story has a happy ending? What do you do for YOU that you love?
 
Begonia,

Across all provinces both psychiatry and psychology are covered under provincial health care, provided that the psychologist is employed within the public health care system (private practice psychologists are not covered under the provincial health insurance programs, but most people have at least some degree of coverage through their extended health benefits through work).

All psychologists who work within the hospital system or publically funded access centers are salaried employees and are able to be accessed via a referral from a family doctor (or psychiatrist) at no cost. The majority offer outpatient psychotherapy and most major hospitals also offer outpatient CBT groups for both anxiety and depression that can also be really helpful. There are typically wait times to see a psychologist through the public health care system, but the EAP program can probably offer him support until his care can be transferred. I would recommend asking his GP for a referral to your local hospital-based psychology department. Most have central referral systems. The wait time may be less than for a psychiatrist, plus, most GP's have training in prescribing first-line antidepressant medications and will typically want to wait to refer to psychiatry until it is evident that the first-line medications are not effective.

Plus, as a Canadian, there are no issues regarding work or health insurance based on an individual's health history (other than when applying for privately funded long term disability insurance when you are self employed). Extended health benefits policies offered through the workplace cannot ask about your health history, nor can a potential employer ask about your health history unless it is specific to an issue of workplace safety (for example, pilots are required to report mental and physical health conditions that might affect their ability to fly, but otherwise, your health is not your employers business, nor will health care providers release information without consent per the Personal Health Information Act).

I hope that he is able to get some help.

LOVE CANADA...
 
@Elizabeth35 thanks for having the courage to respond. Your post resonated with me in so many ways. I like the idea of saying "let me think about it and get back to you" approach. I also need to stop letting guilt drive me (the "I'm a stay at home Mom with the time to do xyz, how can I say no?" mentality). I'm sorry that your marriage was toxic to you. Mine is far from perfect, but my DH is a good guy with a good heart. He sometimes doesn't "get" my feelings (the few times I've tried to explain), but he tries hard. I guess that's enough...

Please tell me that your story has a happy ending? What do you do for YOU that you love?

I have the happiest ending ever! I eventually got divorced and rebuilt my life to one that had work, friends and eventually my DH.

But first I had to go through the bad part. Over 12 months my ex left me (3 weeks before our 25th-lol), my Mom died, then my Dad died. I had been caring for Dad as he had Alzheimers.

To cope during the bad times I saw my PCP and made sure my physical body was holding up. Then I went to a counselor and one by one sorted out all the components of my messed up life. Job, divorce, teenagers, elder care, selling house, etc.
I made sure I ate well, got regular exercise and took time for my mental and spiritual well-being.

That is extra important for you if you are the one caring for others.
Take care of your self---build in down-time, exercise time, FUN time into your calendar.
 
I have the happiest ending ever! I eventually got divorced and rebuilt my life to one that had work, friends and eventually my DH.

But first I had to go through the bad part. Over 12 months my ex left me (3 weeks before our 25th-lol), my Mom died, then my Dad died. I had been caring for Dad as he had Alzheimers.

To cope during the bad times I saw my PCP and made sure my physical body was holding up. Then I went to a counselor and one by one sorted out all the components of my messed up life. Job, divorce, teenagers, elder care, selling house, etc.
I made sure I ate well, got regular exercise and took time for my mental and spiritual well-being.

That is extra important for you if you are the one caring for others.
Take care of your self---build in down-time, exercise time, FUN time into your calendar.

@Elizabeth35 that's a wonderful "story" despite the hard work and pain you went through to get there. I'm sorry for the loss of your parents. I know that will come in my life at some point too and I'm dreading it! I'm so happy to hear that you are happy now and living a life that fulfills you! You are my inspiration!
 
Cmd2014

I'm learning along the way as this is my first time advocating for someone with mental illness. Your post was most helpful in explaining how services can be accessed!

His GP has prescribed a "well tolerated" antidepressant and he is going to start taking it this weekend. I think his GP would like to stabilize him before the referral to the above but I will follow through on that. He has an EAP appointment today, which we are hoping will help with his paralyzingly anxiety.

My husband has no friends or family (that he is close to) beyond me and our 2 sons. No bros to run things by. A father figure or uncle type would be ideal. I do what I can. His mom and sister do not talk about that elephant in the room, or anything else for that matter. I'm using this as an opportunity to talk with my sons about mental health and how family rallies around when one of us needs help. My boys are not going to have to suffer in silence like their dad did when he was growing up.

Thank you for taking the time to respond cmd, Callie, missy...it
has helped in ways I can't describe. I think of you all several times a day with gratitude.

To all of you who have written in with the struggles you are going thru - you are not alone. We have all read your stories and are thinking and hoping for the best for you all. Life is beautiful, and then it's terrible and then it will be beautiful again. Different but beautiful.
Hang on.
 
Cmd2014

I'm learning along the way as this is my first time advocating for someone with mental illness. Your post was most helpful in explaining how services can be accessed!

His GP has prescribed a "well tolerated" antidepressant and he is going to start taking it this weekend. I think his GP would like to stabilize him before the referral to the above but I will follow through on that. He has an EAP appointment today, which we are hoping will help with his paralyzingly anxiety.

My husband has no friends or family (that he is close to) beyond me and our 2 sons. No bros to run things by. A father figure or uncle type would be ideal. I do what I can. His mom and sister do not talk about that elephant in the room, or anything else for that matter. I'm using this as an opportunity to talk with my sons about mental health and how family rallies around when one of us needs help. My boys are not going to have to suffer in silence like their dad did when he was growing up.

Thank you for taking the time to respond cmd, Callie, missy...it
has helped in ways I can't describe. I think of you all several times a day with gratitude.

To all of you who have written in with the struggles you are going thru - you are not alone. We have all read your stories and are thinking and hoping for the best for you all. Life is beautiful, and then it's terrible and then it will be beautiful again. Different but beautiful.
Hang on.
Begonia,

I hope that antidepressant works well for him. I have several girlfriends who live with anxiety and going on an antidepressant has literally changed their lives. If this one doesn’t work, for whatever reason, there are many, many more for him to try.

Please do what you can to care for yourself. A lot of times when someone is caring for a person with mental illness, they can become depressed themselves.

Big hugs. Your husband is very lucky to have you.
 
I'm glad to read the happily-ever afters! I am definitely someone who thought I would be with my ex forever, someday in sitting rocking chairs basking in the glow of raising our two kids. But- towards the end, the last 5 years at least, were bad. And not good for the kids. Though the separation was not my idea, it was the RIGHT thing. I am healing emotionally. I feel no matter what happens, it is for the best. I still love my ex, but I can't be with him. Among other things, he has a drinking problem. Being married to him, financially supporting him, I was being an enabler. I enabled a lot of bad behavior. Next phase of my life I'm going to take care of myself (and my kids) instead.
 
I'm glad to read the happily-ever afters! I am definitely someone who thought I would be with my ex forever, someday in sitting rocking chairs basking in the glow of raising our two kids. But- towards the end, the last 5 years at least, were bad. And not good for the kids. Though the separation was not my idea, it was the RIGHT thing. I am healing emotionally. I feel no matter what happens, it is for the best. I still love my ex, but I can't be with him. Among other things, he has a drinking problem. Being married to him, financially supporting him, I was being an enabler. I enabled a lot of bad behavior. Next phase of my life I'm going to take care of myself (and my kids) instead.

Good for you for recognizing the positive in your situation even if it wasn't your idea initially! I can only imagine how hard it is to be a single, working Mom. I'll give you the same advice I was given above, because I think it applies. Take it one day at a time and be kind to yourself! I know that happiness is right around the corner!
 
2017 has been . . . a challenge. In March, my older sister passed away (she was on hospice). In May, I lost a job I loved. In July, I went back to a job I swore I would never do again. Yesterday, my late sister's oldest grandson was killed in a car accident.

Not the greatest of years.
 
I'm so sorry Holly. That sounds like too much to go through so quickly. Please take care.

I feel like there are quite a few of us here who have gone through multiple losses in life. It's been the hardest thing for me to live with. I lost my dad, then my mom, then my brother. I'm deeply estranged from my sister. My DH lost his dad last year, and I know that was very hard on him. I've always felt "weird" that I have no family. I had lost both parents relatively early in life (at 23 and 35), and it's been something that I thought I didn't have in common with anyone else.
 
I'm so sorry Holly. That sounds like too much to go through so quickly. Please take care.

I feel like there are quite a few of us here who have gone through multiple losses in life. It's been the hardest thing for me to live with. I lost my dad, then my mom, then my brother. I'm deeply estranged from my sister. My DH lost his dad last year, and I know that was very hard on him. I've always felt "weird" that I have no family. I had lost both parents relatively early in life (at 23 and 35), and it's been something that I thought I didn't have in common with anyone else.

That is early in life to lose both parents, and I'm sorry you did. Both of mine have passed, before they should have. Thankfully, I was in my 40s and had my DH to help me through those times in my life. I have one surviving sister, but . . . well . . . she hasn't been much of a sister lately.
 
Oh Holly, I am so sorry. Do you have people other than your husband that are there for you? This is a lot to go thru in a short amount of time. Please let us know how are you are doing and if we can help. I can only imagine how hard the next few days will be. We are here for you if you need to talk. Hugs
 
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Begonia, It sounds as though you are doing and have done things to get help your husband get well. Often times with men, just getting them to see a doctor and get them to see they need help is a long road. Hopefully the you will see an improvement in a few weeks as the medicine starts to work. You are teaching your sons everything the need to know about being great family members by watching you. Your husband and children are lucky to have you. It is obvious you do a fantastic job of taking care of others, please remember to take care of yourself too. It's easy to lose sight of yourself when dealing with all you are going thru. Hugs
 
@HollyS I'm so sorry for the losses you've endured and hope that 2018 is a better one for you and your family!

@lyra I'm sorry for your losses and that you can relate to Holly in this way. DH lost both parents to cancer within 4 years in his late teens/early 20s and it is something he still struggles with. It's a club no one ever wants to join!
 
2017 has been . . . a challenge. In March, my older sister passed away (she was on hospice). In May, I lost a job I loved. In July, I went back to a job I swore I would never do again. Yesterday, my late sister's oldest grandson was killed in a car accident.

Not the greatest of years.

Annus Horribils

HUGS
 
2017 has been . . . a challenge. In March, my older sister passed away (she was on hospice). In May, I lost a job I loved. In July, I went back to a job I swore I would never do again. Yesterday, my late sister's oldest grandson was killed in a car accident.

Not the greatest of years.

HollyS I am so sorry. Not the greatest of years is an understatement and I hope 2018 proves to be a much happier year for you and your family. Sending you gentle hugs and good thoughts and hoping good things are coming your way. I am so sorry for your losses.
 
I'm so sorry Holly. That sounds like too much to go through so quickly. Please take care.

I feel like there are quite a few of us here who have gone through multiple losses in life. It's been the hardest thing for me to live with. I lost my dad, then my mom, then my brother. I'm deeply estranged from my sister. My DH lost his dad last year, and I know that was very hard on him. I've always felt "weird" that I have no family. I had lost both parents relatively early in life (at 23 and 35), and it's been something that I thought I didn't have in common with anyone else.

Lyra, I am so sorry you too have endured multiple losses and lost both parents so young and that you are estranged from your sister. My heart goes out to you and keeping you in my thoughts. (((Hugs))).
 
I'm sorry to hear of the bad times people are having. 2016 was one of the worst years of my life. In comparison 2017 has been multiple times better! Not like everything is normal, but it is moving in a positive direction. I published a book, and I am dating someone who is kind and capable (who happens to not drink!)
 
I'm sorry to hear of the bad times people are having. 2016 was one of the worst years of my life. In comparison 2017 has been multiple times better! Not like everything is normal, but it is moving in a positive direction. I published a book, and I am dating someone who is kind and capable (who happens to not drink!)

@partgypsy , heading out, but had to log-in and say a great big Congratulations!
You published a book! :appl: :appl: :appl:
I'd love to hear all about it, topic, etc., but understand that's not easy to divulge without revealing who you are - so just know that I'm so happy and excited for you!

Also, very happy to hear that you've met someone who is more deserving of being with you.


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Cmd2014

I'm learning along the way as this is my first time advocating for someone with mental illness. Your post was most helpful in explaining how services can be accessed!

You're welcome. I know it can be overwhelming to know where to turn. I'm glad your husband has started medication. Most people with anxiety do best on a combination of medication and Cognitive Behaviour Therapy, so it's worth asking his GP for a referral to your local hospital outpatient psychology department (if they have an outpatient anxiety disorders program, even better). And know that modeling openness about these issues to your kids helps reduce stigma about mental health and will allow them to be aware enough to seek help, if it is ever needed in the future.

2017 has been difficult for me as well, both personally and professionally. I lost an aunt, my mother has been sick and is stubbornly refusing to pursue the treatment that she needs and I am worried about what the likely outcome of this will be, I was hospitalized twice and ended up having surgery that I'm not all that sure I've recovered well from, and just when that was all starting to resolve, I unexpectedly lost my furbaby of 11 years (which honestly has been the most devastating thing of all this year). While my husband tries to be supportive, he doesn't really understand, so my grief is met with confusion and honestly a bit of judgy-ness and I don't feel allowed to grieve when he is around (I can, but then I'll get an exasperated "why are you crying now?"). Woven through this have been a number of professional challenges that I won't go into here, but which have been both drawn out and quite traumatic (people can really suck sometimes) on top of my husband's business dropping off a cliff due to international economic factors outside of anyone's control. It has meant that I have had to find a way to keep going to work despite being sick, heartbroken, not fully recovered from surgery (as I could only take a maximum of 3 weeks off), and facing chronic stress at a job that I am not certain that I still want to do but won't likely be able to afford to change in the foreseeable future.

So my plan is to: put one foot in front of the other, find private time to grieve, seek solace from friends, try to make time to take care of myself, find room in my heart for new furbabies as I think that might help me move forward, find joy in life where I can, and hope next year is better.
 
Aww, @cmd2014 You've endured more than any one person should have to! I'm so sorry for all of the struggles you are dealing with. Grief is a strange thing...I think sometimes it controls/consumes us and we feel powerless to do anything about it. It's true what they say...it does get easier with time and the memories you think about will bring smiles instead of tears. I would imagine that not having healed completely impacts your frame of mind, as it makes you feel more vulnerable, frustrated, etc. The advice I've been given here applies to you as well. BE KIND to yourself and cut yourself some slack. Here's to hoping that 2018 is a better year for you! Sending gentle hugs!
 
@cmd2014 I can't imagine all you are going thru and trying to deal with but I too would be devastated and feel as you do if I lost my fur baby. Come here and start a new thread "I need help grieving my pet" or "Calling Callie". I promise I will respond and try to help, even if it's just to tell you it's okay to be upset over this loss, and so will many others here. I am so sorry for all you are going thru Cmd2014. Hugs, hugs, hugs Your post breaks my heart. No one should have to deal with all you are going thru.
 
Begonia,

I hope that antidepressant works well for him. I have several girlfriends who live with anxiety and going on an antidepressant has literally changed their lives. If this one doesn’t work, for whatever reason, there are many, many more for him to try.

Please do what you can to care for yourself. A lot of times when someone is caring for a person with mental illness, they can become depressed themselves.

Big hugs. Your husband is very lucky to have you.

I believe that wholeheartedly HC - I'm having to do a lot of self care to keep my head above water. I'm going to EAP too.

We'll remember that about the antidepressants should this one not agree with him after a decent trial run that is.

Thank you House Cat
 
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