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I think the main argument is that voting is a RIGHT. Why should one have to jump through a hurdle over their rights? People have fought long and hard and died for that right, but you want to make it difficult for some - why?
Why does texas allow someone to vote with a GUN ID but not a student ID?
How much does it cost to obtain all the necessary documents to obtain a govt ID? Even if the ID is free you can't just walk up and get one willy nilly. How many additional trips/visits/forms does it take to obtain those documents?
@the_mother_thing
How do these same people get to/from everywhere else in life? Work, school, grocery store, doctor appts, visits with family, shopping malls, etc.?
-Many low income people view most of these as luxuries and don't. Yes, they can take transit to and from work/school, but if you can't take a day off work, it doesn't matter how you GET to the DMV if it's closed, because of working hours. Doctors appointments? You really think low-income folk put that at the top of their list in the shitty healthcare system that is the USA? C'mon now.
What do these same people do when they are sick and/or have a doctor appt?
They don't skip work for a doctors appointment. They go to work sick. The USA has no federal law requiring sick leave. More than a few low income folk will work through whatever sickness they have unless it requires the ER. Your privilege is showing [eta - this comes off very "let them eat cake?"]
@redwood66
IDs are required for so many more things so to me this argument is not valid. You cannot get medical care without an id unless it is in an ER and life threatening
What else do you need an ID for that is considered a right? You need ID to buy liquor, not a right. Drive a car, not a right. Go to a doctors office, not a right (as you say the ER doesnt require ID).
Why are some people trying to make controlling who is in power more difficult?
Why does texas allow someone to vote with a GUN ID but not a student ID?
How much does it cost to obtain all the necessary documents to obtain a govt ID? Even if the ID is free you can't just walk up and get one willy nilly. How many additional trips/visits/forms does it take to obtain those documents?
@the_mother_thing
How do these same people get to/from everywhere else in life? Work, school, grocery store, doctor appts, visits with family, shopping malls, etc.?
-Many low income people view most of these as luxuries and don't. Yes, they can take transit to and from work/school, but if you can't take a day off work, it doesn't matter how you GET to the DMV if it's closed, because of working hours. Doctors appointments? You really think low-income folk put that at the top of their list in the shitty healthcare system that is the USA? C'mon now.
What do these same people do when they are sick and/or have a doctor appt?
They don't skip work for a doctors appointment. They go to work sick. The USA has no federal law requiring sick leave. More than a few low income folk will work through whatever sickness they have unless it requires the ER. Your privilege is showing [eta - this comes off very "let them eat cake?"]
@redwood66
IDs are required for so many more things so to me this argument is not valid. You cannot get medical care without an id unless it is in an ER and life threatening
What else do you need an ID for that is considered a right? You need ID to buy liquor, not a right. Drive a car, not a right. Go to a doctors office, not a right (as you say the ER doesnt require ID).
Why are some people trying to make controlling who is in power more difficult?