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Tips and hints for purchasing a yellow diamond for engagement ring?

hobbitfancier55 said:
Still waiting to hear back from David Klass on this.

One thought I did have (probably out of budget) is a colorless diamond halo with a yellow diamond pave on the shank. Shank would be yellow gold. Has anyone ever seen this done?
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Many vendors were in Vegas this week, so I am sure that he will get back to you soon. The last option that you mentioned would be a bit too colorful for me, but you can ask for multiple quotes and go with your heart regarding the setting. I think that keeping only the center stone yellow and everything else colorless looks classic and accentuates the main stone. Other options can sometimes get "busy". Or as Neil mentioned, if a double halo, then the first halo can be yellow diamonds. Again, sometimes it is just tricky to match the color of the center stone to that of the yellow meleè.
 
Yes! I saw on his Instagram that it looked like he was in Vegas at some trade event. I'm just going to have to be patient :)

Is 18k gold usually what is recommended for the setting? Platinum would also be an option. but I'm not sure it's worth the price hike
 
I don't think I'd like the design you're describing, can you find an example?

Id you're doing white gold I'd do 14k to save money. 14k palladium white gold or platinum would be my options.
 
Yes! Seems like everyone was having a great time:) I would go with white and yellow gold. 18kt is what I would use.

Based on prior quotes, DKs price difference between 14k and 18k was minimal. I would prefer rich 18kt yellow gold for the prongs and undergallery (cup) for the yellow diamond. Btw did you pick the diamond?
 
Hard to have a hard time in Vegas! Especially when it involves diamonds!

Below is a somewhat similar DbL designed, except the halo is pink and not white. And it's not a pear obviously.

The things is, I really prefer yellow gold over white in general, BUT I don't think a pave with stones that small would look good in yellow gold. I think the color difference between the yellow gold and white diamonds would make the setting look kind of choppy? If that makes sense.

So I think I'll have to go with white gold. Or do a two tone ring with yellow melee. If he's able to match it. Decisions decisions.


Either way, it's going to look great!

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I think an all yellow ring would look better than two tone

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Niel said:
I think an all yellow ring would look better than two tone

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I agree with Neil. Like Heidi Klum's old engagement ring. I adore that ring :love:

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SimoneDi said:
I agree with Neil. Like Heidi Klum's old engagement ring. I adore that ring :love:

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That's one of my favorite rings!

Another option would be yellow melee on the shank only. Less finger coverage that way though
 
Niel. Yes what you posted is what I was thinking. Sorry didn't see your response earlier for some reason.

Is there any benefit of 18k vs 14k?
 
hobbitfancier55 said:
Niel. Yes what you posted is what I was thinking. Sorry didn't see your response earlier for some reason.

Is there any benefit of 18k vs 14k?
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If yellow gold, I would definitely go with 18kt - it has a much more "golden" shade vs the light yellow of 14kt yellow gold. 18kt obviously has more gold - 75% vs 14kt at 58.5. Some say 18kt is softer because of the higher gold content, but I have multiple gold pieces of various kt and I find them all comparable. To me, it is about the color preference.
 
I'm going to disagree slightly here, even though everything she said is accurate. I think 18k has a deeper golden color when 14k yellow can look more yellow colored...however, that's why I'd do a pave ring of fancy yellow diamonds in 14k, personally. You're trying to accentuate the yellow of the diamonds, so I don't think you would be fine with 14k. Plus it's less soft and less expensive.
 
hobbitfancier55 said:
That's one of my favorite rings!

Another option would be yellow melee on the shank only. Less finger coverage that way though
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Whatever diamond you pick will need a halo, in my opinion.
 
hobbitfancier55 said:
While I'm waiting to hear back from David, these are two more I came across. Any thoughts on these? Both FLY, with faint florescence.

Budget wise, this would probably only leave room for a simple solitaire.
.90 VS2 FLY - $3,140
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/v/19560Z364

A tiny bit larger than the .50, but lighter in color. Chunkier faceting on this one.
.71 VVS2 FLY - $2,210
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/v/698941581
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My personal vote is still for the FIY that Neil found, or other FIY. FLY I do find to be pretty light, but if you think you will be happy with it, then I would go for the bigger one and maybe do just pave on shank.
 
I think you are right Simone. I'd rather have a better quality, more intense stone, even if it is smaller. The halo will add some size as well. The .5 looked great on my finger when I tried them on. I think I'm just used to people on here talking about diamond shrinkage and larger rocks ;)
 
hobbitfancier55 said:
I think you are right Simone. I'd rather have a better quality, more intense stone, even if it is smaller. The halo will add some size as well. The .5 looked great on my finger when I tried them on. I think I'm just used to people on here talking about diamond shrinkage and larger rocks ;)
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DSS will never go away unfortunately :lol-2: But finding something that you truly love and enjoy looking at every day will definitely be better than looking at your pretty and feeling that you compromised somehow. Again, I would personally prefer the color, but if for you size is more important, then go with that. FIY is definitely rarer than FLY and I would be selective when it comes to fancy yellow diamonds with blue florescence as that would "cancel" some of the yellow color when exposed to UV light. My FIY actually has pink/orange flouro which I find cool and it doesn't affect the color. Another solution would be to order a couple of stones and pick the one that you like most in person.
 
SimoneDi said:
DSS will never go away unfortunately :lol-2: But finding something that you truly love and enjoy looking at every day will definitely be better than looking at your pretty and feeling that you compromised somehow. Again, I would personally prefer the color, but if for you size is more important, then go with that. FIY is definitely rarer than FLY and I would be selective when it comes to fancy yellow diamonds with blue florescence as that would "cancel" some of the yellow color when exposed to UV light. My FIY actually has pink/orange flouro which I find cool and it doesn't affect the color. Another solution would be to order a couple of stones and pick the one that you like most in person.
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Size is nice, but quality is more important to me. Are there any other vendors you think I should reach out to for setting quotes? Do many people use DbL for settings? I know colored stones are their specialty, and he certainly is familiar with Pricescope ;) I'm sure they'd prefer I buy the stone from them, but I guess it couldn't hurt either way.
 
hobbitfancier55 said:
Size is nice, but quality is more important to me. Are there any other vendors you think I should reach out to for setting quotes? Do many people use DbL for settings? I know colored stones are their specialty, and he certainly is familiar with Pricescope ;) I'm sure they'd prefer I buy the stone from them, but I guess it couldn't hurt either way.
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DBL is amazing. I really love their inventory of fancy color diamonds and they do a beautiful job on their settings. It wouldn't hurt to ask them if they can source that FIY 0.5ct stone from enchanted diamonds for you (many stones are virtual inventory). And sure - ask them for a quote and evaluate your options.
 
This setting is pretty much similar to what I want. Albeit the basket is a bit different. They even give the price breakdown for specific types of gold types, and for yellow or colorless diamonds. They have the option of yellow halo with colorless shank, could probably do vice versa, and they even have an example ring which is a yellow pear, yellow gold, yellow diamond melee.

Using FIY is a $300 price increase. And if you don't purchase the stone through them it's an extra 25%. I was going to ask if they could potentially get the ED stone for me, but it looks like you already answered that question :)

http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/ind...gle-shank-halo-pink-lemonade-version-3-so3375
 
I'm not impressed by the pave quality of the ring posted above.
 
Niel said:
I'm not impressed by the pave quality of the ring posted above.
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What is it that's lacking in your opinion? I'm so new to this, so it's good to have another eye. He has two other halo settings that start at a slightly higher price point. Second link is hand forged, not sure about the first compared to the second.
http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/ind...ring-delicate-looking-halo-custom-made-so3039

http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php/jewelry/semi-mount-hand-forged-diamond-halo-so4351
 
Hi Neil,
I'll admit that such setting style may be referred to as "Pave" on our site- but in fact, it's not pave in a technical sense.
The ring in question is a casting.
Bottom line is that there's just a lot more metal on the casting.
There's pluses and minuses to both.
From a stylistic standpoint, it's a matter of taste.
I will say that a lot of people are looking for a ring with less metal, from a standpoint of style- but not all.
From a durability standpoint, the more metal aspect does equate to a more durable ring. Harder to knock the stones out, and generally more agreeable to size adjustment.
Also, our cast rings cost less.
Our hand forged rings feature U prong and cut down pave setting style.
Much finer in appearance for sure.
Maybe that's part of what you saw that you did not like?
I'm always interested in improving our designs.
hobbitfancier55 - I hope that clarifies part of your question:)
 
Rockdiamond said:
Hi Neil,
I'll admit that such setting style may be referred to as "Pave" on our site- but in fact, it's not pave in a technical sense.
The ring in question is a casting.
Bottom line is that there's just a lot more metal on the casting.
There's pluses and minuses to both.
From a stylistic standpoint, it's a matter of taste.
I will say that a lot of people are looking for a ring with less metal, from a standpoint of style- but not all.
From a durability standpoint, the more metal aspect does equate to a more durable ring. Harder to knock the stones out, and generally more agreeable to size adjustment.
Also, our cast rings cost less.
Our hand forged rings feature U prong and cut down pave setting style.
Much finer in appearance for sure.
Maybe that's part of what you saw that you did not like?
I'm always interested in improving our designs.
hobbitfancier55 - I hope that clarifies part of your question:)
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Yes this isn't the first time you've made these comments to me and I understand you need to defend your product. I'm not sure it really is appropriate when she's discussing buying a product from you for you to respond, I think that might be a violation of your vender agreement. But if I'm wrong I'm sorry.
I'm just trying to help the OP get the best ring she can for.her budget. I don't think that Halo ring is the best place to spend her money
 
I agree David shouldn't be commenting on this thread. I love a lot of DBL stones and settings, but I would not choose them as a vendor for casted pave either.
 
Hi All,
Can we agree that all of us who participate on PS regularly intend to assist consumers? In other words, we're all on the same side.
The rules against self-promotion don't only apply to site sponsors, they apply to ALL vendors.
As a vendor, I do have concerns about specific DBL questions and comments- it's a great place to learn about what people like and don't like. Regardless, I make every effort to follow the rules.
Is a vendor answering a question here good or bad for consumers? Good question and we may not all feel the same way. IMO, having both consumers' and trade input benefit readers.

Pretty much all of what I wrote applies to cast rings versus hand forged, no matter who makes them. Anyone is free to say what bothers them about our rings or anyone else's. I do think that being specific about why the quality of anyone's ring is bad in your opinion will help the person asking. Hopefully you guys carry on and assist the OP
 
Hi everyone! I'm going to work with David at DbL offline to see about pricing and quotes. I'm still waiting to hear back from David Klass. I'm open to any other recommendations for other vendors as well.

A couple of questions:

1. I'm assuming with my budget I'm going to probably be looking at setting that are cast and not hand forged?
2. Does anyone know if the Tiffany setting is made using CAD/casting or his hand forged?
3. I believe David Klass casts most of his designs? But please correct me if I'm wrong

I know there are both pluses and minuses to cast vs. hand forged, especially when it comes to pave settings.
 
hobbitfancier55 said:
Hi everyone! I'm going to work with David at DbL offline to see about pricing and quotes. I'm still waiting to hear back from David Klass. I'm open to any other recommendations for other vendors as well.

A couple of questions:

1. I'm assuming with my budget I'm going to probably be looking at setting that are cast and not hand forged?
2. Does anyone know if the Tiffany setting is made using CAD/casting or his hand forged?
3. I believe David Klass casts most of his designs? But please correct me if I'm wrong

I know there are both pluses and minuses to cast vs. hand forged, especially when it comes to pave settings.
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Hand-forged is much, much more expensive, with your budget + objectives, I would definitely do cast. That said, there is cast and cast - some are more bulky and some jewelers can better refine the finished product and remove to a certain extend any excessive metal.
 
hobbitfancier55 said:
Also, if anyone does have any experience with DbL hand forged pieces, please feel free to chime in. This one could potentially fall in budget in 14K. Especially if we only put the pave on the halo and not the shank.

http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php/jewelry/semi-mount-hand-forged-diamond-halo-so4351
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I am sorry, but I don't like the basket. I prefer that the stems meet at the shank and not form an actual "basket" underneath. You will not be able to wear a band flush.
 
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