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Awe, ebree, good luck at the appointment next week. That''s great that you were able to get in with an amazing doctor sooner than the first clinic would take you. The whole TTC journey is so emotional that I often find myself in tears for reasons that I can''t figure out.

It''s never too early for wine if you''re not at work!
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Good Morning Everyone!

I''m here, been away for awhile. Sorry.
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I''m going into my 9th month of trying, and it''s just been hard to be peppy and to look on the bright side- be optimistic. Especially when I''ve been surrounded by pregnant cousins as well as another (21 year old) cousin who wants to give her 1 year old baby up.
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. I tried to lurk here and the PG Psers but just ended up depressing myself when I see people I was TTC with who are now like, 5 months pregnant.
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It''s totally MY deal, and I don''t know if I can overcome that issue of mine. Of course, when I finally do get pregnant, you can bet your sweet asses that I''ll be here taunting you with my brand new ability to get pregnant. Hopefully.

All kidding aside, I don''t know why it''s so hard for us, but I think it has to do with the stress level in our home, and my husband''s inability to actually leave things at work- thus inhibiting our "alone" time- at least inhibiting the outcome. So yeah, that makes it hard to see all the posts about these DHs who are willing and able and happy to actually have sex with their wives more than once a season (I exaggerate). What a novel concept. I feel bad telling him that he''s just making it even harder to conceive, because all parts ME seem to be working okay, but he''s not like the other DHs here, he''d much rather think it''s just a timing issue, and disregard the fact that he needs to actually have a part in this TTC thing. I spoke to a friend of his at work- she told me that even though we''ve been trying for two months (!!!! WHAT?), the key is NOT doing it every day. Gotta love unsolicited advice from people with 5 kids. I so wanted to tell her that doing it every day is SO not the reason we''re not pregnant yet. It''s so far from the truth. All I did was say, "Actually, it''s been 8 months- PAUL- EIGHT months, and thank you for the tips." He doesn''t even know how it works, despite me telling him again and again, and he STILL doesn''t listen to me. Two months?? How is it even possible to be off by SIX MONTHS?

So we''re dealing with Dingle Demons here, and my tiny grinch-sized heart isn''t letting anyone or anything else in. It''s just a bad cycle- he stresses, then can''t perform, then stresses more, and then doesn''t even want to try to perform because he''s afraid it''ll happen again, and I''m just sad sad sad. Everything else in our lives are perfect- I''m not even saying that so we don''t sound screwed up- we really are so happy. He''s wanting a baby, he loves me, we''re just so happy with all the other aspects... it''s just this one thing. And it makes me hard to be around, so be thankful I''m not here! I''m so the black cloud that follows Eeyore around. Or maybe I''m Eeyore, and the cloud is sex.




I also wanted to give my sincerest best wishes to Robbie for her loss. I''m so sorry you had to go through that, hun.

Amber signing off:
CD 23, 9 useless DPO.
 
Date: 10/7/2008 2:01:33 PM
Author: EBree
Thanks for the encouragement, gals!

Well, I did it. I booked an appointment with an RE next Wednesday. The earliest the other clinic could see me was November, but I wanted to be seen sooner, and the doctor I have an appointment with sounds outstanding. He''s very accomplished.

After I booked the appointment, I burst into tears. I don''t really know why, exactly. Perhaps due to a mix of emotions. A mix of ''why me'' along with relief, I think. And fear. I''m still very emotional, but I''m trying to look at the bright side: I''m doing what''s best for my future bean. I''m trying to be the most pro-active, protective mom I can be for a bean that doesn''t even exist yet. That''s how much I love it already.

I''m sorry for the pity party, I just have no one else to share this with. Is it too early to have a big glass of wine?
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That''s great that you got an appointment with a great doctor and it''s next week to boot.
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it''s totally understandable to have the mixed emotions and i''m sure that you''ll feel better once some of this uncertainty is laid to rest! cheers
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amber honey I am so sorry. {{{HUGS}}} I am going to suggest something and you can just ignore me completely, but I wanted to get it out there: I think maybe you guys should consider either couples counselling about this or even just individual counselling for your DH about this specific issue. I just feel for you so much and from being with you on this journey I know how upset you are and how hard it is to have this one black cloud hanging over a relationship with a man you love and adore.
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It sounds like your hubby is really stressed and worried about the sexual aspects of your relationship right now--which is normal BTW many men feel like that, and many women too! But it doesn''t have to be like that, with some gentle help he can change his way of thinking about this issue and no longer have so much anxiety about it. Anyhoo, just thought I''d throw it out there.... money, sex, and some other thing are the three top causes of fights in relationships, and they can also cause breakups too over longer periods of time, so it may be worth trying to find a way to work through this issue before you get too resentful.

I wish you the best my dear, you are a wonderful person.
 
Amber, thanks for the kind thoughts. I''m so sorry that you''re having a rough time right now. ::hugs::
 
Hey Amber - I just wanted to respond and let you know I can relate. My DH is also a "stress pot." It started affecting his performance in the bedroom right after our wedding 4 months ago. The biggest change is he has ZERO interest in sex. He does want to TTC, but he just has little desire, making it tough. Well I was very straight forward and told them he had to seek help for his stress/anxiety so that we could have a healthy sexual relationship. I''m lucky that my DH WANTS to get better. So he''s been seeing a therapist. On his therapist suggestions, he had a physical recently and it turns out he also has low testesterone. Now, stress can affect that. So now he''s off to a urologist this week to see how the testesterone issue can be fixed. But honestly I think the stress and anxiety need to be fixed first.

I know I''m rambling, but try to hang in there. This was the first real month that I did everything I could think of to get him in the mood for the crucial week. It wasn''t easy, and we really just did every other day, but that''s better than nothing!

I would try to talk to your DH and see if he''s open to counseling. I really had no idea until recently how badly (job) stress can effect a man''s libido, but it''s done a number on mine. And it''s been tough because no matter what they tell you, you can''t help but feel a little rejected
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Hang in there, and if you need to vent you know where to do it
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amber. I never see you as a dark cloud. I love your humor and wit, and ridiculous self-deprecating stories that make us howl. I''m so sorry that you are in such a bad patch. Regardless of DPO''s and temps and blah blah blah, please stick around because we''re your friends and we understand what you''re going through. you don''t have to go it alone!
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We''re here for you to vent! Vent away.
Now I''m going to give you a hug whether you like it of not (HUG).
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I miss you when you''re not around ;)
 
Thanks everyone, really. It''s tough because it''s been a REALLY rough week for me. I''m sick, DH is sick, my mom was in the ER with a dislocated shoulder, and her friend told me that I need to hurry up and have babies, because my mom promised she''d quit smoking when I got pregnant. So now I need to get pregnant to get my mom to quit smoking. It''s a good thing I have a really bad cold, because no one at work can tell I''m crying.
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DH is starting to think he may have low testosterone, but is taking his sweet time making any appointment. I dunno, I can see why this would cause a fissure in an otherwise stable relationship. And that really makes me sad.

I really appreciate your kind words. Like others, I have nowhere else to go with this. Especially considering my very fertile cousins read my blog and are like, nooo, it''s easy!
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Amber!!! - I''m so glad to see you here!! And I''m equally sorry that you are going through a difficult time right now. I''m just sorry. I can tell you that I hope you''ll stick around. I know that I didn''t post for a while, when I was feeling crappy, but I found the support I got when I actually did post made me feel better, if that makes any sense. Anyway, I''ve missed you, friend. And I''m sorry. You and your DH love each other - and I really hope you guys get some resolution. My thoughts are totally with you.

Ebree - Good luck with the appointment with the RE! And you are going to be such a great mom! and I totally second Robbie''s statement about getting teary for no reason. This whole journey is just hard and emotional. Feh.

LuLu - Cool that thinks were comfortable and you felt good about the doctor. That is huge. Glad to hear that you got some answers and you are feeling better!

Robbie - Good luck with O''ing soon! fwiw, my cycle was a bit late this month and I O''d between 3 and 8 days later than I usually do.

Mela - Good to see you and very happy that things are going well.

I''m CD2. AF started really light and got pretty heavy today...which kind of stinks, but it is what it is. Not much else new or exciting in my world. We looked at the $$ websites you guys suggested. DH, who is a professional computer geek, didn''t feel comfortable putting our financial information online. Which is one of his quirks, but I can understand it. So we are using some open-source free budgeting program (DH refuses to pay for software...see previous computer geek comment), and just really really watching what we are spending. It isn''t too bad so far. I''m sort of trying to put myself back in post-college mode. Where I didn''t really buy anything, because I couldn''t even begin to afford it. Kind of sad, but I''ve realized the best way to stay within my budget is to not shop. Went to Target with my sis today, and walked out empty handed. Sad, but a victory. I can spend $100 at Target without blinking an eye. So yeah.

Alright, off to make some jewelries!!

LL, cd2
 
Lysser, I forget, how far along were you? I was kind of expecting this to be a longer cycle, but I guess I''ll just have to wait and see what tomorrow and Thursday''s temps bring! I think I''ve either O''d or my body was gearing up to it and changed its mind. I only had one little bit of ewcm today and if I was still gearing up to go I would''ve had at least as much as yesterday. At least that''s what my pattern''s been so far. DH was the same way about using mint at first. I forgot that your DH also did something with computers. Man, we''ve got a lot in common. We may just have to meet up one of these days, we could make it the first burgh get together with you, me and sabine!
 
Y''all hardly know me, so I feel a little weird just jumping right into your lives, but what the hey - I feel like I know you!

Ebree - I think it''s great that you made that appointment. (p.s., what''s an RE?) I completely understand why you burst into tears, too. Sometimes it''s scarier to take action than not. It may also be a shi-zitty reminder that things are not going as you''d planned. But the good news is that you are doing something about it and/or about to find out that everything is just AOK and you had some craptastic bad luck. Either way,
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Amber - Hi! We haven''t met yet, but you make me laugh. A lot. And that''s a big compliment because I am a very tough audience.
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My DH is also a big work stresser so I can relate to some of what you and cdt are going through. I''m so sorry that this is a stressful time for you but I''m glad you came back!

Got the one and only BBT at my local Rite-Aid today and have another one coming in the mail. Maybe they can fight it out.

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EBree, I'm glad that you made the appt, and I hope that something good comes from it! I also crossing my fingers for you!

Amber, I'm really sorry that you're going through this. I too have a really great relationship with my DH, but occasionally he does that think that make me scratch my head. He has a lot of somatic symptoms that are exacerbated by stress like headaches and difficulty breathing, and it's so frustrating. I just talked to a girl yesterday who got pregnant after a lot of months of trying, and she was upset at her DH for a lot of the time because she felt like the work involved (timing, charting, etc) was incumbent on her. This TTC itself can be a big stressor!

Can I also say WTF is with my cycle? The last three cyles I have Oed on days 17, 21, and 21. I stopped taking the pill in late May. Could it still be affecting me, or is it common to have weird (anovulatory or very long) cycles like this every once in a while? I definitely showed a biphasic shift the last three cyles; does that mean that I definitely ovulated?

Just checked my CM, and it stretches about an inch. Could that be EWCM? It's clumpy like snot during a cold though, and not clear. It's kinda whitish/greyish/yellowish.

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Hey Amber - I actually stalked you the other day to see just how far off the face of the Earth you went!

I'm so glad to see you posting again! TTC suketh big time!

I'm sure you've thought of this but has DH had a physical lately? (ETA - just re-read that you think it's testosterone) Just to rule out medical stuff and possibly hormonal issues. This sounds familiar to me.

Doesn't help that the DH's don't really get how anything works in there ya know?

Mine even went to the masturbatorium (even a word?) several times at the RE's and still asked what for?

To ice a cake!

Thinking of you guys.
 
Date: 10/7/2008 2:01:33 PM
Author: EBree
Thanks for the encouragement, gals!

Well, I did it. I booked an appointment with an RE next Wednesday. The earliest the other clinic could see me was November, but I wanted to be seen sooner, and the doctor I have an appointment with sounds outstanding. He''s very accomplished.

After I booked the appointment, I burst into tears. I don''t really know why, exactly. Perhaps due to a mix of emotions. A mix of ''why me'' along with relief, I think. And fear. I''m still very emotional, but I''m trying to look at the bright side: I''m doing what''s best for my future bean. I''m trying to be the most pro-active, protective mom I can be for a bean that doesn''t even exist yet. That''s how much I love it already.

I''m sorry for the pity party, I just have no one else to share this with. Is it too early to have a big glass of wine?
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Aww, Ebree, this statement made me tear up. It is absolutely a testament to how much you already love your future bean. I''m so glad you made your appointment!


CD3...
 
Date: 10/7/2008 2:20:13 PM
Author: AmberWaves
Good Morning Everyone!

I'm here, been away for awhile. Sorry.
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I'm going into my 9th month of trying, and it's just been hard to be peppy and to look on the bright side- be optimistic. Especially when I've been surrounded by pregnant cousins as well as another (21 year old) cousin who wants to give her 1 year old baby up.
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. I tried to lurk here and the PG Psers but just ended up depressing myself when I see people I was TTC with who are now like, 5 months pregnant.
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It's totally MY deal, and I don't know if I can overcome that issue of mine. Of course, when I finally do get pregnant, you can bet your sweet asses that I'll be here taunting you with my brand new ability to get pregnant. Hopefully.

All kidding aside, I don't know why it's so hard for us, but I think it has to do with the stress level in our home, and my husband's inability to actually leave things at work- thus inhibiting our 'alone' time- at least inhibiting the outcome. So yeah, that makes it hard to see all the posts about these DHs who are willing and able and happy to actually have sex with their wives more than once a season (I exaggerate). What a novel concept. I feel bad telling him that he's just making it even harder to conceive, because all parts ME seem to be working okay, but he's not like the other DHs here, he'd much rather think it's just a timing issue, and disregard the fact that he needs to actually have a part in this TTC thing. I spoke to a friend of his at work- she told me that even though we've been trying for two months (!!!! WHAT?), the key is NOT doing it every day. Gotta love unsolicited advice from people with 5 kids. I so wanted to tell her that doing it every day is SO not the reason we're not pregnant yet. It's so far from the truth. All I did was say, 'Actually, it's been 8 months- PAUL- EIGHT months, and thank you for the tips.' He doesn't even know how it works, despite me telling him again and again, and he STILL doesn't listen to me. Two months?? How is it even possible to be off by SIX MONTHS?

So we're dealing with Dingle Demons here, and my tiny grinch-sized heart isn't letting anyone or anything else in. It's just a bad cycle- he stresses, then can't perform, then stresses more, and then doesn't even want to try to perform because he's afraid it'll happen again, and I'm just sad sad sad. Everything else in our lives are perfect- I'm not even saying that so we don't sound screwed up- we really are so happy. He's wanting a baby, he loves me, we're just so happy with all the other aspects... it's just this one thing. And it makes me hard to be around, so be thankful I'm not here! I'm so the black cloud that follows Eeyore around. Or maybe I'm Eeyore, and the cloud is sex.




I also wanted to give my sincerest best wishes to Robbie for her loss. I'm so sorry you had to go through that, hun.

Amber signing off:
CD 23, 9 useless DPO.
Amber- I know I don't know you yet, but I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry you're having a rough time. {{Hugs}}



CD3...
 
Hi Amber. Good to "read" you again. You''ve been missed.

I won''t say I understand everything you''re feeling, because we''re all different, but I do understand the frustration and "Eeyore" moments around others at times. It''s hard. It''s hard seeing how hard it is, and then seeing others not have a hard time, and then act flippantly about being a parent. It''s also hard for me when I know it''s the "time" to be BDing and Paul thinks there are other things to be done (like the precious x-box). I think that in general, many many men don''t see the cycle as something pertaining to them. I think they think we stress over it and they prefer to be more of an outsider to the ins and outs of it all, and then it is frustrating.

Paul wants a baby. I know he does, but he''s just not as vested in the temping, cycle analyzing thing. I think because it''s not physically happening to him, it matters less. That''s not to say he''s not on board for growing a baby, he is. It sounds like your hubby is the same way. Men. They don''t always react the way we''d like them to. Talking to my Paul is often a useless thing when it''s too detailed about the whole BD thing. He''d rather think of things in terms of "God''s timing" (which I''m not opposed to at all, but I still like knowing where I am at a particular time in my cycle, to help with my own sanity); to him, it''s going to happen when it happens. Period.

It can be hard on a girl when that''s all you seem to think about. What I''ve found best is to not talk to Paul about the details of my cycle, since he doesn''t respond the way I''d like him to when I do, but instead to talk to him about how much I want him to be a part of the process, and then he usually perks back up and we have more fun and he''s more supportive of me, and it''s really a growing process for us. He talks about a baby a lot more now, and it''s comforting to see that this truly is a desire of his heart, too.

Anyway, don''t think that we think that your marriage is in term oil or anything like that. This is a stressful time in a marriage, when both are on board for baby and baby''s just not showing up. I sincerely hope that you both find yourselves on the way to parenthood soon.

In the mean time, don''t be afraid to rest in the support of one another. It''s really been a blessing for me when I''m having one of my batty days over being baby deprived.
 
Anyone seen this on FF yet? I'm excited to have another way to obsess about my "imaginary" pregnancy symptoms during the TWW, lol. It will really suck if they analyze my symptoms and tell me that I may be preggo and I end up with a BFN.


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CD3...
 
Ebree,

Congrats on taking the step to make an appt. I know it was hard, but you''ll feel better knowing how to get a bean baby growing in you sooner, to last!!

You will be a great parent. Don''t let any posible issues with your body''s system make you think otherwise, at all. There is going to be a baby that sticks and that will be one lucky baby!!
 
Just wanted to add that depression is a major cause of low libido, so if your DH has issues with this it is something to look into as well.
 
robbie, lulu, lysser, Festy, peony, InLuv, fisher, and all other PS TTCers-

Thank you all for your support. I'm feeling good about the decision. I'll definitely keep you updated on what I learn at the consultation- I get to spend a long, luxurious HOUR with the RE. I told DH how excited I was, as my OBGYN is in and out in about 10 minutes. I'm barely able to tell her all I need to before she has to run to another appointment. Boo.

Festy- RE = Reproductive Endocrinologist :)

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Hey there Robbie - I was 19DPO when I started to spot a bit and have some light cramping. 21 DPO when we learned the pregnancy wasn''t viable and 24DPO when I started really bleeding. My first HCG level, at 19 DPO was 200 and at 21DPO it was 50. I think yours were a bit lower, correct? If so, you may not have that much of an impact on your next cycle. Oh, and I''d be down for a get together one of these days!

Luv - I have to tell you, I''m not impressed with the pregnancy predictor. Particularly since I know that I''ve felt just about every single possible pregnancy symptom, particularly on the cycles when I WASN''T pregnant. I''m afraid it is just going to really encourage even more obsessing and false hope...of course, I''ll probably use it.

Festy - Congrats on your BBT purchase(s). Just think, now you have a back-up thermometer!

Peony - That really doesn''t sound like EWCM to me...EWCM is usually pretty darn stretchy...not that I''m an expert!

Oh, and ya know, I was thinking, my DH is utterly clueless too. I remember the month I got KTFU, DH said he was kind of confused about why we stopped DTD after I had confirmed ovulation...because I was most fertile for the two weeks after I ovulated. ARGH!...They just don''t get it...luckily, he has many other redeeming qualities!

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Date: 10/7/2008 5:01:11 PM
Author: peonygirl

Just checked my CM, and it stretches about an inch. Could that be EWCM? It''s clumpy like snot during a cold though, and not clear. It''s kinda whitish/greyish/yellowish.

That sounds like ''sticky'' to me.
 
Peony,

I think that when it comes to EW, everyone is a little different. Last cycle, I was making myself nuts trying to figure out what was and was not fertile CM.

The standard is that your EW should pull apart more than an inch and not break, but mine never did meet that criteria.

I''m not positive that I fully "get it" even now, but I do know that I have CF that is more like sticky than the typical EW that is described, and that it is often a mixture with more watery CM.
 
Inluv,

I don''t have that VIP membership to Fertility Friend, but golly, that would be lots of fun! Interpreting symptoms. I''d have that thing thinking I was preggo every other day, I''m sure!!
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Date: 10/7/2008 7:31:18 PM
Author: littlelysser
Hey there Robbie - I was 19DPO when I started to spot a bit and have some light cramping. 21 DPO when we learned the pregnancy wasn''t viable and 24DPO when I started really bleeding. My first HCG level, at 19 DPO was 200 and at 21DPO it was 50. I think yours were a bit lower, correct? If so, you may not have that much of an impact on your next cycle. Oh, and I''d be down for a get together one of these days!

Luv - I have to tell you, I''m not impressed with the pregnancy predictor. Particularly since I know that I''ve felt just about every single possible pregnancy symptom, particularly on the cycles when I WASN''T pregnant. I''m afraid it is just going to really encourage even more obsessing and false hope...of course, I''ll probably use it.

Festy - Congrats on your BBT purchase(s). Just think, now you have a back-up thermometer!

Peony - That really doesn''t sound like EWCM to me...EWCM is usually pretty darn stretchy...not that I''m an expert!

Oh, and ya know, I was thinking, my DH is utterly clueless too. I remember the month I got KTFU, DH said he was kind of confused about why we stopped DTD after I had confirmed ovulation...because I was most fertile for the two weeks after I ovulated. ARGH!...They just don''t get it...luckily, he has many other redeeming qualities!

cd2
My thoughts exactly
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Hi everyone
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well i''m somewhere in the middle of my cycle...tww...my mexican getaway threw me off a bit...but its nice not to really know sometimes...i feel more relaxed about things this month. i don''t feel the need to poas
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. aff is suppossed to arrive next week sometime. i don''t feel any symptoms..no full boobs, no cramping...nada...by this point i usually feel something along those lines.

my sister called me up the other morning asking if i was pregnant because she had a dream that i was. maybe she''s foreshadowing
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sorry you are down amber...go to mexico
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no stress.

hope everyone is catching sticky dust and soon to get a bfp! baby dust to all.
 
Date: 10/7/2008 3:09:25 PM
Author: cdt1101
Hey Amber - I just wanted to respond and let you know I can relate. My DH is also a 'stress pot.' It started affecting his performance in the bedroom right after our wedding 4 months ago. The biggest change is he has ZERO interest in sex. He does want to TTC, but he just has little desire, making it tough. Well I was very straight forward and told them he had to seek help for his stress/anxiety so that we could have a healthy sexual relationship. I'm lucky that my DH WANTS to get better. So he's been seeing a therapist. On his therapist suggestions, he had a physical recently and it turns out he also has low testesterone. Now, stress can affect that. So now he's off to a urologist this week to see how the testesterone issue can be fixed. But honestly I think the stress and anxiety need to be fixed first.

I know I'm rambling, but try to hang in there. This was the first real month that I did everything I could think of to get him in the mood for the crucial week. It wasn't easy, and we really just did every other day, but that's better than nothing!

I would try to talk to your DH and see if he's open to counseling. I really had no idea until recently how badly (job) stress can effect a man's libido, but it's done a number on mine. And it's been tough because no matter what they tell you, you can't help but feel a little rejected
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Hang in there, and if you need to vent you know where to do it
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Cdtt1101 and Amber, may I ask how old your DH's are? My DH is 40, and I also think his testosterone is low too. He needs quite a bit more sleep than I do and is often low-energy, and seems to be pretty comfortable being intimate just once a week - maybe twice. It's kind of concerning because I feel like we'll never get pg on that kind of schedule when we do TTC!
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So I completely empathize. And it's really hard not to feel rejected even when you know logically it's not you.... it still hurts
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Cdt1101, I'm glad your DH is getting help - can he go to a counsellor/psychologist to address his stress issues? Amber - hopefully your DH will get on board too. It must be frustrating to TTC when such an integral part of the process isn't there....
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I'm watching to see how DH's and I sex life goes...if it becomes a problem I'll have to find a way to broach it with him.

Amber - I was wondering where you had gone to. It's good to 'hear' your voice around here, again.
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Date: 10/7/2008 7:37:32 PM
Author: EBree

Date: 10/7/2008 5:01:11 PM
Author: peonygirl

Just checked my CM, and it stretches about an inch. Could that be EWCM? It''s clumpy like snot during a cold though, and not clear. It''s kinda whitish/greyish/yellowish.

That sounds like ''sticky'' to me.
Yupe, that is sticky and it is not technically a fertile quality CF. As Fisher mentioned, this could be mixed with watery, which is fertile, but the sticky stuff is not in and of itself fertile. Why? Well if it is thick and tacky then how will spermies swim easily through it? That''s the definition...
 
Thanks everyone, that makes sense! I wish I knew whether this cycle was ultra long or anovulatory. Do you think having a bad cold at the beginning of the cycle is what screwed it up? I guess we'll never know.

Also, I'm considering getting this product, which has fairly good reviews: http://www.early-pregnancy-tests.com/fertilecm.html. Obviously, I'm desperate.
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Well, my temp went back down so I guess it was just my body trying to fake me out. I barely had any ewcm yesterday and none yet today, so I think it might be a while before I O. Lame.

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