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Need on just visuals from that pics that is. The labs would be able to deduce from the characteristics of the inclusions.
 

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My jewellers think your large one is probably from Ceylon too :)
No scientific reason why...beyond they don't really see comparable colour from the mines that are producing during their industry lifetime.

But considering many mines are mined out, if it's really old, then they wouldn't have seen one within their lifetime too.

Just like cflutist's mum jadeite pendant. They can tell from the pics that it's really old. Utility jade. But I've never seen utility jade this green during my stint here :)

It’s such a shame that mines are mined out. Old stock/ old mine means ever more these days for almost every gem. That’s why I love looking at antique/vintage jewelry, for the gems and the hand work/artistry at more accessible prices. Some things one could just not find new and in sizes and qualities once available in the past anymore.

Re the large one, I suppose the main reason I suspect Ceylon is because it has s watery quality to it which I’ve seen in other sapphires from there, and also the bluish/lavender color. But, I’m sure they are found elsewhere too. Kind of like the one posted above.
 
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regarding inclusions...here one can see the 2 clear crystals within it. The darkness in the picture is a shadow which they sometimes make. There of a few tiny specks of smaller, clear crystals, but those are hard to see. I kind of like having it be a mystery as to origin, because for me it’s all about the sapphire, and it’s fun to guess!
 

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Sorry. Typo. Need = Based.

Yes! No more stunning watery translucent large ones here. I'm yet too see one like yours!

Lol I couldn't help thinking. Because yours is a large cab, you don't even need a loupe to check out the tiny inclusions!

They could be spinel, zircon, apatite, so much more. Amazing that a gemstone is host to so many other minerals and entities :razz:
 

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Sorry. Typo. Need = Based.

Yes! No more stunning watery translucent large ones here. I'm yet too see one like yours!

Lol I couldn't help thinking. Because yours is a large cab, you don't even need a loupe to check out the tiny inclusions!

They could be spinel, zircon, apatite, so much more. Amazing that a gemstone is host to so many other minerals and entities :razz:
It was pure luck to find them both in one Summer. I’d been looking forever before. I agree, sapphires hosting other crystals is amazing. They could even be sapphires within a sapphire. This is going to sound new agey, but I believe crystals within crystals add to the energy of the stones lol.
 

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It was pure luck to find them both in one Summer. I’d been looking forever before. I agree, sapphires hosting other crystals is amazing. They could even be sapphires within a sapphire. This is going to sound new agey, but I believe crystals within crystals add to the energy of the stones lol.

I think so too. Or else lessen the dominant energy of the host rock :)

My mum certainly believes in it!
 

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I think so too. Or else lessen the dominant energy of the host rock :)

My mum certainly believes in it!
I definitely am with her. Between my 2 large stars, the @19 carat one has no eye visible inclusions or striations, but I like the energy of the larger one a bit more, even though I delight at the flawlessness of the smaller one. It’s a subtle thing, but I’m sensitive to it. This is why I don’t wear certain stones, even though they are beautiful, because the energy hasn’t meshed with me well. My jeweler was so wonderful, ( before she retired to commissioned custom work only) and would let me borrow pieces for a few days to feel them out, in style and otherwise, so I could get a sense of the spirit of the stone before purchasing. This gave me a good idea about how I would feel about some gems.​
 

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Ok @stracci2000 , I’m about to watch it!
The star was magnificently sumptuous and large. Just amazing to see on. Too bad there was never a closeup. But even from afar and in black and white, it made such an impression! You are right, @stracci2000, it was this same one.,.
 
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The star was magnificently sumptuous and large. Just amazing to see on. Too bad there was never a closeup. But even from afar and in black and white, it made such an impression! You are right, @stracci2000, it was this same one.,.
She wore it in every single scene!
Even in her nightgown...a girl after my own heart!
And @Bluegemz, your gorgeous large star is just as fabulous, and was once probably also owned by Hollywood royalty!
 

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She wore it in every single scene!
Even in her nightgown...a girl after my own heart!
And @Bluegemz, your gorgeous large star is just as fabulous, and was once probably also owned by Hollywood royalty!
Awe, thanks, @stracci2000 ! I’m flattered that you think so!
 

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I have a question for everyone. I have worn a star Burmese ruby ring every day for over 10 years. It was about 5.8 cts when I had it set deep into a ring so only the very top was showing. I hit it a couple of months ago and took a bout .25ct chunk out of it. It still looks good from a distance and has a beautiful star. To recut it I would mean cutting down to about 3 cts and no guarantee the star would stay nice or that it would fall apart. Do you think I should take the chance?
 

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I have a question for everyone. I have worn a star Burmese ruby ring every day for over 10 years. It was about 5.8 cts when I had it set deep into a ring so only the very top was showing. I hit it a couple of months ago and took a bout .25ct chunk out of it. It still looks good from a distance and has a beautiful star. To recut it I would mean cutting down to about 3 cts and no guarantee the star would stay nice or that it would fall apart. Do you think I should take the chance?
Gosh, sorry to hear that! A few questions...do you still love it now? Would you love it more if it were smaller without the chip? How would you feel if it fell apart? Would it still be beautiful without the star as it is now if you had it recut? I think first it should be examined by someone experienced enough with stars to assess the strength of the stone re fractures, and rutile.

I can understand the conflict you have now. It was a beautiful, much loved ring. I had a star sapphire repolished in a ring, it was very old and had small surface abrasions. It gave me great anxiety to have it done. I don’t think the shape is quite as perfect as it was, but polish is much nicer now. If I think about having done that, it still brings anxiety.
 

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This is a picture of the ring with the chip. It doesn't look too bad. I will live with it for now.

The yellow gold really makes the color of your sapphire pop! :appl:
 

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This is a picture of the ring with the chip. It doesn't look too bad. I will live with it for now.
I don’t think so either. It would be a shame to have to reconstruct the whole ring of you had it recut. I think it’s lovely!
 

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Thank you. I don't think I could replace the ring if anything happened at today's prices. I had the ruby AGL certified years ago as a 5.86 ct non treated Mogok stone of classic color. I paid $6,000 for the stone when Thaigem first started about 16 to 17 years ago and can't afford to replace it at today's prices.
 

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Thank you. I don't think I could replace the ring if anything happened at today's prices. I had the ruby AGL certified years ago as a 5.86 ct non treated Mogok stone of classic color. I paid $6,000 for the stone when Thaigem first started about 16 to 17 years ago and can't afford to replace it at today's prices.

Whats the size on that? its gorgeous (want!!):kiss2:

I have a VERY petite star sapphire.
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Said I would always get a bigger one, and it just never happened. I now have so many damn stones to set that getting another to sit in a box...lol well it would be kinda silly.
 

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Whats the size on that? its gorgeous (want!!):kiss2:

I have a VERY petite star sapphire.
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Said I would always get a bigger one, and it just never happened. I now have so many damn stones to set that getting another to sit in a box...lol well it would be kinda silly.
That’s such a beautiful little Star. It’s frosty looking with a great sheen!
 

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It was 5.86 cts before I chipped it. I had it set deep on the ring to protect the stone but I guess that didn't work out to well.
 

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It was 5.86 cts before I chipped it. I had it set deep on the ring to protect the stone but I guess that didn't work out to well.
It could be much worse after 10 years of constant wear. It still has it’s ‘soul’ and I personally had to look closely to see it. It’s not distracting in first impressions from your pictures in my opinion. Also, it carries a story of life and a loved and worn piece.
I’d it were me, I’d keep it as is in order to save the ring. If you find that it bothers you, then you can take your time finding/saving for another one and eventually replace it or have a new ring made and have 2 rings.
 

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You are right I will leave it alone. Originally the ring had a 2.5 ct faceted Violet Brazilian Paraiba. I decided to have that taken out and set the ruby because I was chipping the paraiba. I wore this doing digging in the garden and it would scratch the stone.
 

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This star has such a different mood than the other. It’s amazing how stars can vary in feeling. Each one is an individual with its own, inner ‘life’.
 

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This star has such a different mood than the other. It’s amazing how stars can vary in feeling. Each one is an individual with its own, inner ‘life’.

Crystal clear :)
 

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This is a picture of the ring with the chip. It doesn't look too bad. I will live with it for now.
I just noticed that your star ruby has a pink star! That is very special!
 

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This star has such a different mood than the other. It’s amazing how stars can vary in feeling. Each one is an individual with its own, inner ‘life’.
:kiss2:Beautiful! I especially like how the halo seems to pick up the color of the star sapphire ;))
 
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