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Monkey1229

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Hi All, I'm looking for a round diamond as close to 3 carats that's eye clean with Ideal cut with Platinum setting but I'm not sure about J/I color is might be too yellow for platinum. any thoughts or advice?
Thank you!
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4039665.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4045357
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4063383.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4022278
 
Monkey1229 said:
Hi All, I'm looking for a round diamond as close to 3 carats that's eye clean with Ideal cut with Platinum setting but I'm not sure about J/I color is might be too yellow for platinum. any thoughts or advice?
Thank you!
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4039665.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4045357
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4063383.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4022278
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The body color and metal color not all that relevant, although most recommend white metal prongs regardless of shank color. The issue is how color acute is the intended wearer. Color and the ability to see it varies greatly. Round diamonds are good at hiding tint. Think about your girl and color. Does she use world like greige, fawn, ecru, stone and mushroom or would she say beige? Does she need to have just the perfect shade of shoe to match an outfit or does she keep is pretty basic? Is she in an artistic field? What does she do for a living (or is studying to do)? Have you (or can you) go to a store with them and had them look at GIA stones to see what colors they can see?

In general, most people can see tint from the top starting at an I. Tint can be seen from the side and 45 degrees (typical wearer viewing angle) at a H and below.

One thing to keep in mind is that seeing color and being bothered by it are not the same. I can see all the color and competently can grade to GIA standards, but tint does not bother me. Its like a cool fact about the stone. Does she or her or your culture demand a pristine white stone? Is size more important to her than color?
 
The tint in a 3ct J would be too perceivable to me personally. Keeping in mind that larger diamonds will show more colour than smaller ones. But it is a matter of individual taste and priority of size, price etc
 
All the posted links say diamond unavailable? Anyway, I have an I set in white gold and I actually think it helps make the stone NOT show the tint. What is your budget?
 
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Matilda said:
All the posted links say diamond unavailable? Anyway, I have an I set in white gold and I actually think it helps make the stone NOT show the tint. What is your budget?
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30-35K
 
Don't know what the intended wearer's sensitivity to or preference for color is, but I can tell a really big difference in an I and a J, esp in sizes over 2 ct. I had a 2.43 ct J set in a halo, and it was "white enough" for me because I could really only view the stone face up, eliminating the side view (where body tint is more prominent). When I made the decision to upgrade to a solitaire, I knew a J color would be too tinted for me, so I went up to 3.33 ct in an I (see avatar), and I am very happy with it. Everyone's preferences are different though...
 
msop04 said:
Don't know what the intended wearer's sensitivity to or preference for color is, but I can tell a really big difference in an I and a J, esp in sizes over 2 ct. I had a 2.43 ct J set in a halo, and it was "white enough" for me because I could really only view the stone face up, eliminating the side view (where body tint is more prominent). When I made the decision to upgrade to a solitaire, I knew a J color would be too tinted for me, so I went up to 3.33 ct in an I (see avatar), and I am very happy with it. Everyone's preferences are different though...
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I still love your avatar and ring. One of my favs on here. As I recall your stone is a GIA 3x right? From Diamonds Direct? Only mentioning this because of recent chatter on AGS vs GIA colors.

Also, it should be noted that a color grade is a range of color. As you go down the color scale the range broadens. So it's possible that maybe an I stone is near an H color or near a J color or maybe just a perfect I.

This is where it's nice to work with someone like WF that can pull the stones and have a certified gemologist view the stones side by side and help get you the right color. If you have in your head a particular stone like @msop04's then you could say, "I am looking for something that is a strong GIA I color" and WF will know how to analyze the stones for you.

Also each person assigns different priorities to the 4 C's. I'd encourage you and your SO to think about what is most important to both of you. Here at PS we believe cut is always #1 but I'd say the majority would claim carat weight as their #2 with color as a close #3. Most tend to be happy with "eye clean" clarity so that normally ranks #4.

But again, everyone is slightly different. Many Asian buyers need high color and clarity for cultural reasons so most tend to have different priorities than others.
 
sledge said:
I still love your avatar and ring. One of my favs on here. As I recall your stone is a GIA 3x right? From Diamonds Direct? Only mentioning this because of recent chatter on AGS vs GIA colors.

Also, it should be noted that a color grade is a range of color. As you go down the color scale the range broadens. So it's possible that maybe an I stone is near an H color or near a J color or maybe just a perfect I.

This is where it's nice to work with someone like WF that can pull the stones and have a certified gemologist view the stones side by side and help get you the right color. If you have in your head a particular stone like @msop04's then you could say, "I am looking for something that is a strong GIA I color" and WF will know how to analyze the stones for you.

Also each person assigns different priorities to the 4 C's. I'd encourage you and your SO to think about what is most important to both of you. Here at PS we believe cut is always #1 but I'd say the majority would claim carat weight as their #2 with color as a close #3. Most tend to be happy with "eye clean" clarity so that normally ranks #4.

But again, everyone is slightly different. Many Asian buyers need high color and clarity for cultural reasons so most tend to have different priorities than others.
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Thanks, @sledge! Yes, it's GIA XXX... Diamonds Direct is very pro-GIA. They do have a few AGS stones and *other* labs, but I'd say they're about 90% GIA... and they preach "GIA is best" ad nauseum. LOL

RE the range... you are absolutely right. The lower the color, the broader the range. I'm not sure if my stone would be considered a "high I" or not, but it is so much whiter than my J (which was GIA XXX as well). I also have faint fluoro in my I color, so I'm sure that doesn't hurt. I'm not super color sensitive, but I'm totally oblivious to it either. I can see a little tint from the side and in unfavorable lighting conditions, but 90% of the time, my stone look pretty dang white to my eyes.

A vendor like WF would be super helpful if you cannot view the stone(s) in person, or if you simply don't trust your own eyes... that said, a super ideal cut diamond should face up a bit whiter and brighter than another diamond of the same color. DD's showroom has lighting that is sort of the "anti-jewelry store lighting" in that it's not that complimentary. Their thing is that if you like the stone in their showroom, you'll really love it IRL! And they're right! When shopping for my upgrade (stone in avatar), I was cool with the color in the showroom, but when they let me take it outside, in my car, and to THREE other shops close by, I was floored at how much whiter it was compared to in their showroom. :)
 
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DD's showroom has lighting that is sort of the "anti-jewelry store lighting" in that it's not that complimentary. Their thing is that if you really like the stone in their showroom, you'll really love it IRL!
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How interesting. I bought a few diamonds pieces fooled by store lighting in the past (one of those compulsive buys with your husband urging romantically to get something), so I can't imagine a jewelry showroom not taking advantage of that. After a few of those events, I insist on going outside the store, near the window, and explore all corners of a store before buying any diamond.

Contrary to many people here who think AGS trump all else, you can buy some exceptionally good GIA stones when you shop around, if you know what to look for. It's always nice to have a stone to compare with, such as your own e-ring when shopping in person. ;))
 
blueMA said:
How interesting. I bought a few diamonds pieces fooled by store lighting in the past (one of those compulsive buys with your husband urging romantically to get something), so I can't imagine a jewelry showroom not taking advantage of that. After a few of those events, I insist on going outside the store, near the window, and explore all corners of a store before buying any diamond.

Contrary to many people here who think AGS trump all else, you can buy some exceptionally good GIA stones when you shop around, if you know what to look for. It's always nice to have a stone to compare with, such as your own e-ring when shopping in person. ;))
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Don't get me wrong, their showroom doesn't make everything look bad... they just don't have the "magic lighting" that all others seem to have. :) They are totally aware that most jewelry shoppers (myself included) have been duped by such lighting, then disappointed when they view their purchase under "real life" lighting... so they really work that angle. They seem to really want shoppers to feel good about their purchase... and come back, of course. ;) They are also more than happy to escort you outside and to other places within the shopping center area to view their stones/pieces as well. They actually encourage and recommend it.

I agree with you about GIA vs AGS... you just have to do a bit of extra work. ;-)
 
Monkey1229 said:
Hi All, I'm looking for a round diamond as close to 3 carats that's eye clean with Ideal cut with Platinum setting but I'm not sure about J/I color is might be too yellow for platinum. any thoughts or advice?
Thank you!
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4039665.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4045357
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4063383.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4022278
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Those are all good stones (thanks to @rockysalamander for the working links), but no one can tell you of your own color tolerance better than yourself. Have you seen J stones in person? For a major purchase such as this, you absolutely must go out and visit some jewelry stores to confirm what your preferences are, whether you want a larger size or higher color. Visit a local Heart On Fire store or other decent local jewelry stores and see for your self.

As far as the size difference, visit this site (adjust your monitor size) to see the difference between your biggest vs smallest.

https://www.diamdb.com/compare/3.01ct-round-9.24x9.27x5.71-vs-2.79ct-round-9.02x9.05x5.55/
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I wanted to chime in again and mention that the style of your setting will make a big difference in how low (or not) you may feel comfortable going regarding color. If the setting is such that the side view is open enough to show the diamond, then I would stick with I and above. If the side view is camouflaged by an intricate basked or wide bar, or maybe if you were thinking a halo that is just under the girdle, then you may be good with J as well.
 
Picture of 4 stones together in normal lighting. What do you guys think?
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It's practically impossible to judge from still photos. I personally liked the I 2.786 stone from the videos on the site, and it's the least tinted.
 
Another vote for the smallest I, it is a beautiful stone.
 
2.78 for me too. Color is noticeably better than the others and proportions are great!
 
I still like the 2.7, it is significantly whiter to me and has lovely proportions. Exciting purchase!
 
I'm also holding steady on the 2.786. That stone is noticeably whiter and I think that adds value and beauty I would appreciate daily.
 
If you like whiter stone the 2.786 one is the one that I would go for. If you want bigger size I would pick 2.948. I do notice the different even it only .2ct difference.
 
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