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1) WRONG. ALL politicians who use violent rhetoric to fire up their bases and the media who give them air time are responsible for this atmosphere, to include several of those on the receiving end of these packages. You don’t get to say things like “bring a gun”, “kick ‘em”, “you can’t be civil until the dems are back in power”, “push back on them and tell them they are not welcome here”, etc. then act innocent when your own hostile rhetoric brings about hostility towards you. You want to pick apart Chump’s comments, then you need to force the Dems to own their comments and role in this environment as well. And no, that is not me condoning the packages being sent - I don’t. But Chump is not the only one guilty of making such comments, and he himself has been on the receiving end of such threats, suspicious packages, etc. Where was the outrage then? Crickets ....
2) That is not the only comment Obama made in his campaign & presidential era that was perceivable as ‘hostile’, not to mention racially divisive; but you glaze over where I said I wasn’t digging them all up. You are free to search them out if you want. I could post them all and you and others here will just give him a pass, cry ‘racism’, and every other argument that has been made to defend him. Been there, done that, passing on buying the t-shirt.![]()
The expression "bring a gun to a knife fight" or alternatively "don't bring a knife to a gun fight" is a very common colloquial phrase in the English language. When that's what you have to point to when trying to show "Obama did it too!" that's a pathetic grasping at straws. I don't actually blame Trump for whoever sent these packages. I do agree we're all responsible for our own actions. So when is Trump going to be responsible for his? Why is every single attempt to discuss his behavior met with "but but whatabout!" You can't say people are responsible for their own words and then try to deflect every. single. time the topic of Trump's rhetoric comes up.
Good news, though, there has been an arrest!
OMG!!! Is this for real @soxfan ??? I was wondering why they covered the vehicle with a tarp.
You don’t get to cherry pick what types of rhetoric are ‘acceptable’ because your guy said them vs. someone else.
My first thought was this van has to be a set up? Wouldn’t police pull this van over and watch a person who drove this van. On second thought Trump has definitely emboldened these people. Heck, I’ve heard a few comments that I never would in a million years expect to hear, from people I have known for years.
who said ALL politicians use violent rhetoric?
What historically has been ‘colloquially’ acceptable is no longer acceptable ... there were all kinds of words, phrases, etc. ... be it use of racial slurs, sexist terms, behaviors even that were at one time considered “acceptable”, but in this era, they are not - regardless of WHO says/does them. You don’t get to cherry pick what types of rhetoric are ‘acceptable’ because your guy said them vs. someone else.
There are days It feels like we are living in a Jerry Springer show that never ends.
What historically has been ‘colloquially’ acceptable is no longer acceptable ... there were all kinds of words, phrases, etc. ... be it use of racial slurs, sexist terms, behaviors even that were at one time considered “acceptable”, but in this era, they are not - regardless of WHO says/does them. You don’t get to cherry pick what types of rhetoric are ‘acceptable’ because your guy said them vs. someone else.
He may not even have been driving it, Calliecake. It may have been parked somewhere. We have to wait and see.
AGBF
What are the odds this guy attended a Trump rally???
What historically has been ‘colloquially’ acceptable is no longer acceptable ... there were all kinds of words, phrases, etc. ... be it use of racial slurs, sexist terms, behaviors even that were at one time considered “acceptable”, but in this era, they are not - regardless of WHO says/does them. You don’t get to cherry pick what types of rhetoric are ‘acceptable’ because your guy said them vs. someone else.
What are the odds this guy attended a Trump rally???
Fox News was blurring out the stickers on the van.
I didn’t; re-read what I wrote.
As for the rest of your post, you’re simply giving Obama a pass for his rhetoric while tightening the rope around Chump’s neck. Chump never said - to my knowledge - “go build some bombs and send them to Dems”. He’s made stupid, thoughtless comments ... just like many on the left. Again, NONE of these on either side justifies acts of terror against anyone. But EVERY ONE of them who have made comments have contributed to the tense environment we’re all living in. If you can’t admit that and condemn the behavior on BOTH sides (vs. just pointing fingers at one side), then you remain an obvious partisan and (IMO) are part of the problem.
I’m glad to see an arrest was made. News is reporting the suspect’s name is Cesar Sayoc, Jr.
They were never considered acceptable. You chose to use them anyway. I knew as a young child things my father said were awful and wrong and that was over 50 years ago. I got sent to my room with no dinner for telling him so when I was 8.