Need help: GF wants big rock, I want eye-clean nice rock

[Gypsy]

Date: 6/13/2006 9:33:44 PM
Author: blueroses

Here's this one from GOG:

1.8ct N SI1 Hand Selected Round

Reserve Diamond

Shape: Round
Carat Weight: 1.80ct
Color: N
Clarity: SI1
AGS Cut Grade: NA*
GIA Cut Grade: NA*
Fluorescence: Negligible
Girdle: 0.94%
Culet: None
Lab Report #: NA
In House: Yes
Width: 7.82mm
Length: 7.86mm
Depth: 4.77mm
Table Percentage: 61.03%
Depth Percentage: 61.00%
Crown Ú: 37.93‹
Crown Depth: 15.55%
Pavilion Ú: 40.71‹
Pavilion Depth: 43.30%
Upper Girdle Ú: 44.82‹
Lower Girdle Ú: 41.79‹

Price: $6,684.03
(Bank wire price: $6,45

Tilt Photo:

And Megascope cert is attached.

This baby in one of those settings Gypsy posted? It is under 2 cts but at around 7.8mm is a NICE spread!!

Oh yeah!!! We have a winner! IMO... this is the best of both worlds. GOG has Upgrade. Phillip has antiquey settings (18K under 500 bucks with diamonds!) And at 7.8 mm it's almost to the spread of a 2 carat.

Now all we need is Professor to come out of hiding...lol.

ETA: Although I am personally a BIG fan of that Lilly of the Valley ring. Love how white that K looks in that finish.

 

[blueroses]

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/1914


For some reason this thing does not want to post!!!

 

[blueroses]

FINALLY--there it is!! Don''t know why it wouldn''t post before. Thanks for the thumbs up, Gypsy--this seemed like it could do the job!!

MovieZobie, thanks......I agree, there''s something very special about the hand "real estate" that gorgeous "brazillian cockatiel" diamond takes up!

OK Professor, we''re waiting for Office Hours!!!

 

[JulieN]

Well, as long as we're exploring all our options, here...
2.55 M SI2 (that looks possibly eye-cleanish!) http://www.goodoldgold.com/classic/round_2_55ct_m_si2.htm

unfortunately, not quite enough left over for an antique setting.

 

[Dancing Fire]

blue
i think GOG will only do upgrade on H&A stones??.

 

[blueroses]

Ooh, good find, Julie!! At the upper end of his budget, but if he added $400-500 he could still do one of those antique-y setting. Hmmmm.


Here''s the 2.55 M Julie found:

 

[Gypsy]

Holy crap! 2.5 carat would knock a size monger''s socks off. Put that in a three hundred dollar setting and BAM!

 

[blueroses]

Dancing Fire, that''s a good question--Gypsy had mentioned the potential of upgrading a GOG stone but I don''t know about their policy. Somthing to think about, though.

....on the other hand, if we somehow manage to throw enough at Professor that we find him a stone that will work SIZE-WISE for his gf, maybe they won''t want to upgrade?

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 6/13/2006 9:48:12 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
blue
i think GOG will only do upgrade on H&A stones??.

Oh. Hmm. Still we are talking about 1.8 and 2.5 carats. (Is it just me or does that 2.5 carat look like it could be recut for higher clarity??)

 

[JulieN]

I think the M SI2 looks pretty good clarity-wise...check out the darkfield clarity pictures.

Anyway, a 38.8/41.3 would only work in those high temp settings, so just ask GOG to send one for free and then super-glue it in.

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 6/13/2006 9:56:22 PM
Author: JulieN
I think the M SI2 looks pretty good clarity-wise...check out the darkfield clarity pictures.

Anyway, a 38.8/41.3 would only work in those high temp settings, so just ask GOG to send one for free and then super-glue it in.

 

[JulieN]

Steep/deep stones benefit from high settings where light can come in from the bottom (and escape through the top)

The plus is that high four prongs are inexpensive.

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 6/13/2006 10:00:40 PM
Author: JulieN
Steep/deep stones benefit from high settings where light can come in from the bottom (and escape through the top)

The plus is that high four prongs are inexpensive.

But... and I feel like a dummy here, what does that have to do with glue and temperature???

 

[blueroses]

Here''s the HCA on the first GOG (the 1.78 N)

Holloway Cut Adviser
Selected: 60.5% depth, 61% table, 38° crown angle, 40.6° pavilion angle
The result is for a symmetrical diamond with a medium girdle and very good polish
HCA scores were adjusted Dec. 15, 2001 and Feb. 6, 2003.


Factor Grade
Light Return Very Good
Fire Good
Scintillation Good
Spread
or diameter for weight Very Good
Total Visual Performance 3.9 - Very Good - Worth buying if the price is right



And the 2.55 M:

Holloway Cut Adviser
Selected: 61.2% depth, 65.6% table, 38.8° crown angle, 41.3° pavilion angle
The result is for a symmetrical diamond with a medium girdle and very good polish
HCA scores were adjusted Dec. 15, 2001 and Feb. 6, 2003.


Factor Grade
Light Return Fair
Fire Poor
Scintillation Poor
Spread
or diameter for weight Very Good
Total Visual Performance 6.4 - Fair



HMMM....so the larger one didn''t fare well at ALL. Those depth/table #''s almost look switched!?!

 

[Kaleigh]

I''m not getting the super glue either???

 

[JulieN]

No, those temporary settings that just clamp on the stone. you''d have to glue it because a knock and you''ll lose the stone.

Jokes...never explain.

 

[blueroses]

high temp as in set up high TEMPORARY (not hot temperature!!)

 

[Gypsy]

Okay... so it would benefit most from a setting that lets the amount of light-- like a temporary setting. So it would be best to have Jon send one of those with it-- and then superglue the sucker and hope it holds?

We'd have to antique the setting though. Maybe glue some pave on???


ETA: Oh Good Holy God! TEMPorary... not TEMPerature. ROFLMAO. That was BAAAAD!

 

[blueroses]

Date: 6/13/2006 10:09:40 PM
Author: Gypsy
Okay... so it would benefit most from a setting that lets the amount of light-- like a temporary setting. So it would be best to have Jon send one of those with it-- and then superglue the sucker and hope it holds?

We''d have to antique the setting though. Maybe glue some pave on???


ETA: Oh Good Holy God! TEMPorary... not TEMPerature. ROFLMAO. That was BAAAAD!

Oh god. I have this image of budget minded (and 1/2-deranged) PSers trying to somehow BEDAZZLE a temp. setting!!!!

 

[ladykemma]

Date: 6/13/2006 10:35:17 PM
Author: blueroses

Date: 6/13/2006 10:09:40 PM
Author: Gypsy
Okay... so it would benefit most from a setting that lets the amount of light-- like a temporary setting. So it would be best to have Jon send one of those with it-- and then superglue the sucker and hope it holds?

We''d have to antique the setting though. Maybe glue some pave on???


ETA: Oh Good Holy God! TEMPorary... not TEMPerature. ROFLMAO. That was BAAAAD!

Oh god. I have this image of budget minded (and 1/2-deranged) PSers trying to somehow BEDAZZLE a temp. setting!!!!

including me

 

[Gypsy]

Well, it might be fun.

Then again, it would certainly be funny!

 

[JulieN]

Back on topic...I pulled the .gem files on the M and the N, to get a better picture of things.

In terms of light return, they're more similar than the HCA scores suggest.

 

[upgrading mama]

ooh I hope he chooses this one http://www.philipnoel.com/_e/_99_499/product/sm2262a%2Dring/18K_White_Gold_Diamond_Semi_Mount_0_26_TCW.htm

bc it is one I have had my eye on for a few months and would love to see real life pics!!

 

[blueroses]

Sophie, I love that one too!! And $295, I mean, WOW!!

 

[blueroses]

And Julie, thanks for the side by side--wow!! That IS different than the HCA would make ya think!


(Although I still have fun images of a bedazzler-quilting circle a la PS

)

 

[Gypsy]

Yeah I''ve been ogling that for a RHR myself. Set with a fabulous colored gem of some sort. YUM!

 

[Lorelei]

I was looking at the M SI2 last year on the site, I don't think it has a certificate on it, just so the professor knows, but obviously the price will reflect that too. It was the numbers and the HCA scores that made me pass it by although it might look nice.

 

[ladykemma]

i would pick the very first ring in the series. Poifect!.... where did he go?

 

[Dee*Jay]

Date: 6/14/2006 7:48:35 AM
Author: ladykemma
.... where did he go?

Ha ha, I was just thinking the same thing! Maybe PS is too much for the meek of heart! Hope he comes back though because this is a great thread and he can''t complain for lack of options!

 

[Lorelei]

Maybe all us eager ladies scared him

I hope not though!