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Need a setting for my wife's new 4.72 ct RB stone

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EdOhio

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I am a long-time reader, but a first time poster on PS. We just bought for my wife a gorgeous stone that requires a custom setting. We have come up empty handed in dealing with local jewelers, and have concluded that we may have to look more broadly. I love Yssie's 5 stone setting from DBL, but wonder about 5 stones in those proportions being too much for a size 6.5 ring. I also worry about the complexity of dealing with an out of state designer. I would greatly appreciate any advice.
 
First, welcome! And what a great husband you are to help your wife in this quest.

Second, you might get more responses if you move this over to Rockytalky.

Third, what state are you located in? For my tastes a 5-stone with a 4.72 center is a bit much but then again, I’m not the one wearing it. :-D
 
As a newbie, I posted this in the wrong forum. Should I start a new topic in Rocky Talky, or can I move this?
I am in Ohio.

I have also wondered about 5 stone being too much. Her previous ring had a three small stone bypass on either side of a 2.09 RB. We both have loved that design, but thought about something different for the new setting.

Thank you for responding!
 
Hit "report concern" to have this topic moved to rocky talk. You can do what Bliss did with her gogeous 4ct. She got a wrap with I think two 1 carats and she wears it as a 3 stone when she wants to glam it up...I think it's a genous idea, you could also do a five stone on the wrap to really glam it up but I think a 3 stone would be perfect:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-98-rb-in-vatche-u113-thanks-to-idj.184808/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-98-rb-in-vatche-u113-thanks-to-idj.184808/[/URL]
 
04, thank you. I requested a move to rocky Talky.

I did not know about wraps. Very interesting. I think, however, that my wife would like her everyday ring to also be her go to look. She has temporarily set the stone in a solitaire, which is a bit boring although better than leave the stone in a box. I will post pictures of her previous setting, which we both like, but wonder if we can't take it to the next level with this 4.7.

The new stone is a GIA D, IF, triple excellent, HCA 1.9. It is really beautiful. We just need help in getting the right setting designed.
 
How about a 3 stone with the same sort of design? A 5 stone is possibly going to be either too big to go across the finger if the other stones are larger as well or it is going to have a different look ie different proportions to the ring you like if the side stones are all much smaller than the centre stone. This is one of the nicest ones with 3 stones;

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/steven-kirsch-jbeg-owd-yssie-2-62ctw-oec-3-stone-goodness.184650/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/steven-kirsch-jbeg-owd-yssie-2-62ctw-oec-3-stone-goodness.184650/[/URL]

Otherwise if she wants max bling go for a simple, elegant well done halo.
 
EdOhio|1391484012|3607474 said:
04, thank you. I requested a move to rocky Talky.

I did not know about wraps. Very interesting. I think, however, that my wife would like her everyday ring to also be her go to look. She has temporarily set the stone in a solitaire, which is a bit boring although better than leave the stone in a box. I will post pictures of her previous setting, which we both like, but wonder if we can't take it to the next level with this 4.7.

The new stone is a GIA D, IF, triple excellent, HCA 1.9. It is really beautiful. We just need help in getting the right setting designed.
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HI:

I will be the dissenting opinion and suggest you keep a 4.7, D, IF, stone in a solitaire. How about a separate band to wear, with stones of different shape?

If not, a three stone ring with pears would be elegant.

cheers--Sharon
 
canuk-gal|1391487347|3607509 said:
EdOhio|1391484012|3607474 said:
04, thank you. I requested a move to rocky Talky.

I did not know about wraps. Very interesting. I think, however, that my wife would like her everyday ring to also be her go to look. She has temporarily set the stone in a solitaire, which is a bit boring although better than leave the stone in a box. I will post pictures of her previous setting, which we both like, but wonder if we can't take it to the next level with this 4.7.

The new stone is a GIA D, IF, triple excellent, HCA 1.9. It is really beautiful. We just need help in getting the right setting designed.
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HI:

I will be the dissenting opinion and suggest you keep a 4.7, D, IF, stone in a solitaire. How about a separate band to wear, with stones of different shape?

If not, a three stone ring with pears would be elegant.

cheers--Sharon
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I concur with Sharon. Solitaire for sure!!
 
+1 for solitaire.
Can't wait to see pic of the current temporary setting.
 
Also another vote for a classic solitaire. Let that beauty be the main attraction!
 
Oh my goodness :sun: a well-cut D IF RB of this size, what an exceptionally rare treat!! Please post a couple of photos for us, I'd LOVE to see this mammoth beauty!

I'm flattered that you and your wife like my setting enough to consider it for your stone! I'll go against the grain and suggest that if she likes and is comfortable sporting a very big, blingy look, the right jeweller could certainly make a multi-stone with RB sides work - it's all in the number, size, and angling of those sidestones. I would imagine that with such a large stone there's actually quite a bit of room under the girdle for smaller sidestones to "tuck in"... But I agree with previous posters - it'd be a complete SHOWSTOPPER, and that might not be a good thing.

I also love the idea of a pair of pears! Or, if you do want two pairs of RBs, make them considerably smaller proportionally so that they're more like "accent" stones than sidestones. Given the size of your centre even "accent" stones can be quite a bit bigger, objectively, than we usually see! Another idea might be a pave band - tons of bling but you avoid the "will it all fit" concern...
 
Another vote for a solitaire in a gorgeous setting by either Victor Canera or Steven Kirsch. There isn't room for side stones unless she has really large fingers!

This is a magnificent setting (which can have a matching wedding band):

http://www.stevenkirsch.com/engagement/solitaire/r0215.html

Or this absolutely gorgeous ring by Victor Canera (more of a stand-alone ring):

https://www.pricescope.com/blog/jewel-week-sculpted-french-cut-diamond-dream-ring

These two would be my picks for a large and rare stone like yours! Although I personally might go with a plain but elegant solitaire (by Victor or Steven) with a diamond wedding band instead.
 
Thanks to all for your input! I plan on taking photos tomorrow of both new stone with temporary solitaire and old ring and stone with bypass setting. I look forward to your input.

I have been strictly a RB fan, and like the graduated sizes of sidetones. You can really see that look with a five stone ring like Yssie's, as compared to a three stone setting. Doing the math, five is tough to do unless the size reduction is more significant from the proportion I prefer, or if the sidetones can be slightly tucked under the center stone, as Yssie suggested. The center stone is 6.6 mm high, so there's good room to work with.

We have felt a simple solitaire can be boring unless it is complemented by additional bands. During the time we have been considering alternatives, my wife has been wearing a couple of bands with small stones from T&Co that we find attractive, but not as a final look. I'll include photos of this look.
 
With such a magnificent round stone I would go classic-flank the stone with two huge tapered baguettes or bullets. :love:
 
lambskin|1391552625|3607884 said:
With such a magnificent round stone I would go classic-flank the stone with two huge tapered baguettes or bullets. :love:
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Me too. Absolutely.


But a three stone with rounds or pears would be nice too. I personally think that 5 round brilliants of the size you are going to have to get (with that big a center!) you are talking 1.3-1.5 carat for the first set of sides and 80 point for the final two-- is just way too much on one 6.5 finger.
 
Gypsy, I had done the math using other rings I liked and thought that with a 10.8 mm center stone, sides of 5.9mm and 3.8 mm would visually look great. This would equate to side stones of roughly .75 and .21 ct (my estimates--maybe off). However, adding up the dimensions would lead to a very wide setting, unless the stones overlapped and the circular angles reduced the effective width. I'm not saying it's doable, but I wonder if it is.
 
EdOhio|1391565625|3608057 said:
Gypsy, I had done the math using other rings I liked and thought that with a 10.8 mm center stone, sides of 5.9mm and 3.8 mm would visually look great. This would equate to side stones of roughly .75 and .21 ct (my estimates--maybe off). However, adding up the dimensions would lead to a very wide setting, unless the stones overlapped and the circular angles reduced the effective width. I'm not saying it's doable, but I wonder if it is.
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Okay. Those dimensions are much better in terms of visual impact (not talking carat weight, just spread). And will let the center be the star, which I am sure is what you want.

It will be wide, though you are right.

I wish there was a way you could try on something similar and see what it looks like before buying.
 
I saw a 5 carat center with 25 pointers all around the band at a jewelry show. Major bling!! A stunner. I personally toe for a solitaire. ;). At that size it needs no embellishment.

Here is the pic anyway. It's like the big sister to my little ring.

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Here are the pic's of both the 25 year old 2.09 D SI1 setting and the new, temporary setting for the 4.72 D IF. I learned a couple things doing this: (1) taking pic's of diamonds is TOUGH, (2) stone must be beyond clean and without dust, and (3) be careful of what you wear because it will show up.

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Here's a few more:

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I honestly think the most classy and elegant side stones for a large round brilliant are baguettes (as in Harry Winston), or pears, or rounds. But with a stone that size, I think baguettes and pears are best. You want the center stone to be the star. This is a 3 ct stone with side pears:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-erd-steven-kirsch-3-stone-ring-with-pear-side-stones.189157/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-erd-steven-kirsch-3-stone-ring-with-pear-side-stones.189157/[/URL]

5 stones is too much with a stone that size unless you are just making the shank with 2 small accent stones on each side.
 
Double Double, that's a beautiful ring! I did a bit of math on that setting and concluded we might want something like a .75 ct pear on each side to maintain the same proportions (order of magnitude), which I think are beautiful. We're going to investigate this look in more detail. Any suggestions on really beautiful settings with two pears around a RB?

For those who have done this kind of work with out-of-town designers, do you travel there and leave the stones, or have it made and shipped to you for setting with a local jeweler? Shipping this center stone is not a realistic option.
 
Wow, that's a gorgeous stone! It would look good attached with a twist tie! :lol: I'm typically not a solitaire kinda girl, so my personal vote would be a 3 stone with pear or baguette sides....that would be TDF!! Please come back with a handshot and many more photos once you've had the stone set.
 
bullets as sides would be so truly show stopping too! I have only seen bullets online, never in real life-but with that golf ball- would be GORGEOUS!
 
To answer your question, do you have any good designers in your area? If not, many of us have shipped large value stones to the designer of our choice.
 
Another vote for pear sides!
 
Any chance you want to go crazy and use the 2ct stone as one side stone for a 3 stone ring, then buy a second 2ct for the other side? Most expensive option possible, of course, but - hey - we're here to help! :naughty:

Seriously, though, that would be an almost 9ct 3 stone ring. Never seen one like that and it would be jaw dropping, eye-dazzling, and STUNNING!

Just a (really expensive!) thought.
 
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