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peacechick

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Excuse my ignorance but what is “bean quality” ?
Is it bad to wear two together? I tried mine together but the clinking makes me wonder if it might damage them, though the sound is actually rather pleasant.
And yes, I would dearly love a lavender one but.......
It’s referring to the translucency and texture of the jade. Based on my understanding, there is:

1) Glassy: See through and glossy like glass. Super expensive. Like mortgage your house expensive.
2) Icy: Highly translucent, may be glowy.
3) Taro/Glutinous: Translucent but like looking through starch water.
4) Flywing/Crushed Ice: Semi-translucent and you can see the crystalline structure, may be coarse-grained.
5) Bean quality: this is the entry level for fine jade—ranging from “glows in the sun” to “glows if a flashlight is placed on it” to totally opaque. The grain can range from fine to coarse, the texture can be glossy to rough.

I want to know if the metal bangle will scratch the Jade?

I have a rose gold bangle that would look adorable with the Jade bangle!

I was told not to wear metal, because it may scratch the jade but I do it anyway... I try to ”park” my bangle anyway so they are not in contact much.

But Bron, wearing two bangles together is totally fine if you don’t mind the clinking!
 

icy_jade

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Excuse my ignorance but what is “bean quality” ?

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Glutinous/taro

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Icy

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MMtwo

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I want to know if the metal bangle will scratch the Jade?

I have a rose gold bangle that would look adorable with the Jade bangle!

I bought a jadeite bi and wore it on a 14k chain until I saw little gold shavings around the inside of the hole. The jade was eating my gold. I picked up a silk cord.

Anyhow, I believe your jade will be impervious to scratching but be careful of the gold.

PS: I love this bangle and very pretty on you!
 

mellowyellowgirl

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I bought a jadeite bi and wore it on a 14k chain until I saw little gold shavings around the inside of the hole. The jade was eating my gold. I picked up a silk cord.

Anyhow, I believe your jade will be impervious to scratching but be careful of the gold.

PS: I love this bangle and very pretty on you!

Whoa thank you for that bit of info MMtwo!!!!

Definitely not wearing them together! Haha with the price of gold these days I cannot afford to shave off my whiteflash bangle!
 

MMtwo

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Whoa thank you for that bit of info MMtwo!!!!

Definitely not wearing them together! Haha with the price of gold these days I cannot afford to shave off my whiteflash bangle!

No problem...I was completely fascinated! jade is 6.7 to 7 on the Mohs scale, gold is a delicate 2.5 to 3 (I'm not that smart, but I run a mean Google). A bangle might not be so bad, but the motion of the bi was forever sawing against the hole as it shifted, so it was a more extreme situation.
 

mellowyellowgirl

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No problem...I was completely fascinated! jade is 6.7 to 7 on the Mohs scale, gold is a delicate 2.5 to 3 (I'm not that smart, but I run a mean Google). A bangle might not be so bad, but the motion of the bi was forever sawing against the hole as it shifted, so it was a more extreme situation.

I just realised you are a fan of Jade from your other thread! Stay tuned!!!

Because I'm highly predictable I have a matching necklace that is almost the same color as my bangle!

Will take pics tomorrow!!!
 

MMtwo

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I just realised you are a fan of Jade from your other thread! Stay tuned!!!

Because I'm highly predictable I have a matching necklace that is almost the same color as my bangle!

Will take pics tomorrow!!!

Oh nice - I look forward to pictures! Yes, I am definitely a fan of jade! However, where I live in Virginia it is very hard to find jade or even jade bargains of any type, so I have quit trying for now. Add to it I do not have a delicate wrist, so need at least a 59mm. I have done a great job at learning "what is not jade" and "what is bad jade". LOL
 

Bron357

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This is why I find Jade so hard to buy online.
This bangle is apparently worth $16,000 alongside the $200 bangle I bought. 0305A38E-E3BA-4709-8E85-1F26E1BAC68C.jpeg F39FD00A-4125-4160-A707-8FABD766D2C0.jpeg
 

Sparkles88

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Hi @Bron357

I can post a few links to a few sites so you can see how much they charge for each bangle. I find it very helpful to do that. After a while you know or can deduce why X bangle is more than Y bangle. It was what I did in order to determine my budget and expectations.

I think the wrist thing is personal preference. I suspect most right handed people would do more work with their right hand so the bangle might be less likely to clang on things if you were it on your left.

My left hand is very flexible and I can slide up to a 52mm on comfortably without soap. Not true for the right hand which doesn't seem to bend or contort as much!


Hi @mellowyellowgirl
I’m not Bron, sorry to jump in, but I would love to see the links if you’re happy to post them.
My parents purchased a jade pendant for me many years ago and that’s the only piece of jade I own, I would love to add a bangle to my collection. I’m unsure if I would like the feel of bangle so more of a in expensive starter piece to see if I can wear it.
I’m also in Australia.
 

Laurainthesky

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I would love a jade bangle. I actually like the bean quality lol. But I do not want it dyed because it fades over time.
 

peacechick

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This is why I find Jade so hard to buy online.
This bangle is apparently worth $16,000 alongside the $200 bangle I bought. 0305A38E-E3BA-4709-8E85-1F26E1BAC68C.jpeg F39FD00A-4125-4160-A707-8FABD766D2C0.jpeg
Probably marked up due to being a strong green all around with some intense green patches but imo it‘s overpriced and the polish doesn’t seem very good. Is it vintage?

This one has similar intense green but in bigger, more attractive patches and the lustre is very good.

Bron, is your $200 bangle the one with peridots set in yellow gold? If so, my guess is the bangle is not grade A, because the colour itself would command a premium. And usually jade sellers would not carve into jade that is so valuable. When you see carved bangles, it’s often to remove or hide impurities. However, I think it is a STEAL for $200 because of the workmanship, the gold and the peridots and would gladly buy it too!
 
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Bron357

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I actually have 2 bangles, both were around $200.
I don’t know what grade but I have used the UV light, no fluorescence (I have a dyed pendant and that really lights up ha ha) and I’ve looked at them both under the microscope. Apparently if they are dyed the colour will be in like cracks between the crystal structure, like spider veins. With both of the bangles the green colours are diffuse and there are also like tiny black specks in places plus some of the colour is “within” rather than surface reaching. So I don’t know if that helps confirm grade A but to me I bought them on looks alone (and size) and I love them. 1FB1D83F-590C-4133-9867-E37A659F7D2B.jpeg E07FDB83-C69B-480C-8C1A-8D79EF3848CC.jpeg E07FDB83-C69B-480C-8C1A-8D79EF3848CC.jpeg
 

peacechick

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I actually have 2 bangles, both were around $200.
I don’t know what grade but I have used the UV light, no fluorescence (I have a dyed pendant and that really lights up ha ha) and I’ve looked at them both under the microscope. Apparently if they are dyed the colour will be in like cracks between the crystal structure, like spider veins. With both of the bangles the green colours are diffuse and there are also like tiny black specks in places plus some of the colour is “within” rather than surface reaching. So I don’t know if that helps confirm grade A but to me I bought them on looks alone (and size) and I love them. 1FB1D83F-590C-4133-9867-E37A659F7D2B.jpeg E07FDB83-C69B-480C-8C1A-8D79EF3848CC.jpeg E07FDB83-C69B-480C-8C1A-8D79EF3848CC.jpeg

Honestly I think they are both very beautiful. I don’t think anyone has the ability to tell whether they are Grade A or not based on how they look. Only a gem lab that specialises in jade will be able to give the right answer. If you are ever in Singapore (after we can all travel again), you can walk in at NGI and ask for an on the spot verbal evaluation. Takes 30 mins, that’s what I did with my nephrite bangle which I had bought in Canada.

I just remembered I have some Grade B jade that I will post, which can at least help in terms of showing what they look like. Let me find the photos.
 

MissSarah

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@MissSarah thank you! The beauty of Jade is you can keep looking until you find the shade you like in the texture you like! I'm so happy with this green. It's my "happy place" green.

Or you can just Pokemon jade bangles over five years until "the one" is found. :lol:

I really, really admire your patience to keep looking until you found your happy green! It is such a pretty one.
 

peacechick

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Non-Grade A Jade for Educational Purposes

Sorry for the blurry photo but this was my old set before I bought my current jade collection. All were purchased because I liked them, under $100 and definitely not Grade A.

So, the most realistic of the three was the bangle, it was a pale apple green, even in colour with some slightly greener areas, and cold to the touch. When I shopped for my first Grade A jade bangle, I asked the vendors whether they thought it was real and a couple of them said they did and I should get it tested (The others declined to answer, haha). Anyway, I did test it at NGI and it was Grade B. I gave it away later on when my collection grew.

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Next is a pendant that I’ve had for maybe 10 years? So this one actually has a tell tale sign of being Grade B. On the front it looks fine but on the pack you can see the spider web effect which might be the polymer coating breaking down. They were not there when I first bought it, but appeared over time.
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Lastly, this is a bracelet made by a friend who sold her handmade jewelry for some time. According to her they are genuine jade beads, so I think they are probably Type B + C maybe. Interestingly, they do still have small impurities.

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That’s all I have... hope it is somewhat helpful to anyone learning and looking to buy jade!
 

mellowyellowgirl

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Thought it looked rather pretty in the car!

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One thing I've learnt is there is no such thing as a bargain with Jade. Except maybe carved flowers and beads. Sometimes. I've picked up a few bargains in that arena but with bangles I've found them to be pretty consistently priced in terms of what you get and the faults that come with it. Anything that is a pleasant green comes at a price!
 

mellowyellowgirl

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Gorgeous pics!
Thanks @mellowyellowgirl , I really appreciate it.

Okies here goes!

So I go to these Facebook pages and look at their bangles. Awethentic is really pretty but too high end for me!

I've bought other things from Jasmine before. She's fluent in English and good about pictures. Not the cheapest but not bad imo. I've liked everything I bought from her.

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Kathy Jade of course. I find it pricey but a few PSers have bought from here. It's probably less daunting than dealing with China.


I like to go here and see what green I can get for my money!

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https://www.ultimatejadeite.com/

Pricey too but reputable!

Hope this helps!

I looked at a lot of stuff on wechat and bought mine from there but keep in mind if you're not game to deal with random Chinese on the internet, it's probably not the place for you. They sell from different vendors and the videos etc are pretty shady. It's A LOT of drama to buy from them but I do think I got the best value I could in terms of color.
 

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Okies here goes!

So I go to these Facebook pages and look at their bangles. Awethentic is really pretty but too high end for me!

I've bought other things from Jasmine before. She's fluent in English and good about pictures. Not the cheapest but not bad imo. I've liked everything I bought from her.

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Kathy Jade of course. I find it pricey but a few PSers have bought from here. It's probably less daunting than dealing with China.


I like to go here and see what green I can get for my money!

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https://www.ultimatejadeite.com/

Pricey too but reputable!

Hope this helps!

I looked at a lot of stuff on wechat and bought mine from there but keep in mind if you're not game to deal with random Chinese on the internet, it's probably not the place for you. They sell from different vendors and the videos etc are pretty shady. It's A LOT of drama to buy from them but I do think I got the best value I could in terms of color.

Thank you, off to take a look.
 

mellowyellowgirl

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@icy_jade yes her stuff is so fabulous, knock em dead but...... It costs a fortune! Like I can see why it costs a fortune but it's just SO MUCH for a bangle.

That said....I bought a dream ring. One would think someone can have a dream bangle.

Lol not now!!! I wear my bean with colour for now!
 

icy_jade

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@icy_jade yes her stuff is so fabulous, knock em dead but...... It costs a fortune! Like I can see why it costs a fortune but it's just SO MUCH for a bangle.

That said....I bought a dream ring. One would think someone can have a dream bangle.

Lol not now!!! I wear my bean with colour for now!

Honestly I would hesitate to wear such an expensive bangle... already with my most expensive bangle I shudder to think how I’ll feel if I ever fall and crack that bangle. And I’m not buying just to admire and keep in the safe so I’m reconciling myself to the fact that I’ll probably never get to buy my dream bangle. Ah well, enjoy what I have for now.

By the way do you bargain with the sellers? What’s a typical discount like?
 

mellowyellowgirl

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Honestly I would hesitate to wear such an expensive bangle... already with my most expensive bangle I shudder to think how I’ll feel if I ever fall and crack that bangle. And I’m not buying just to admire and keep in the safe so I’m reconciling myself to the fact that I’ll probably never get to buy my dream bangle. Ah well, enjoy what I have for now.

By the way do you bargain with the sellers? What’s a typical discount like?

Depends on what you buy but it's not much of a discount! Just a few hundred yuan. But I don't buy the crazy expensive stuff so I've got no idea how that end of the market works. I reckon if you had the spirit for bargaining you could try harder but I'm already tired after trying to suss out the colors in their videos. I rather spend my energy elsewhere.

I detest grey in Jade so I spend time working to avoid that!
 

mellowyellowgirl

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After seeing this I feel like I cannot buy purple bangles any more...

:lol: haha that's how I felt about greens initially. But then I just made peace with it and told myself as long as it was reasonably green in any light, I could live with it.

I'm lucky the shade of green I like is cheaper!!! Just have to make sure I don't buy a bunch of the same ones. I have that habit!
 
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