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[oncrutchesrightnow]

Best chance of a strong overblue is vsb+si2 clarity based on clouds not shown and also gaining not shown comments.
To get a strong overblue you need high reactance+a lot going on in the stone.
It will also likely be a bit milky even without UV.
The thing is the most of those get filtered out before entering the US market.

Hypothetically, what if the only clarity characteristic listed on a report was “internal graining?”

 

[lovedogs]

Hypothetically, what if the only clarity characteristic listed on a report was “internal graining?”

From what I know (from Jon and Karl) rhay would make the stone really promising, especially in lower clarities (SI1 and below)

 

[Christinak]

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[oncrutchesrightnow]

3 Options:

1. https://npol.s3.eu-central-1.amazon...https://npol.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/V/

Pic of 1:

2. https://video.diamlist.com/VideoPage.aspx?stoneid=N0330903

Pic of 2:

3. https://diamdna.azureedge.net/Vision360.html?d=awn-287&sr=-30&s=30

Pic of 3:

#3 looks like your best chance of success. But I understand why you like #2.

Is this one too small:

Outside of your budget but did you see the amazing diamond Dolly posted recently? Amazing!

Here’s a smaller, perhaps cheaper option than the one @YadaYadaYada posted

From what I know (from Jon and Karl) rhay would make the stone really promising, especially in lower clarities (SI1 and below)

That sounds true. I would still like to see a stone like the below that is VVS1 but its only clarity characteristic is internal graining. Especially because internal graining reminds me of pink.

 

[lovedogs]

#3 looks like your best chance of success. But I understand why you like #2.

Is this one too small:






Here’s a smaller, perhaps cheaper option than the one @YadaYadaYada posted





That sounds true. I would still like to see a stone like the below that is VVS1 but its only clarity characteristic is internal graining. Especially because internal graining reminds me of pink.

Thanks! I like the criss cut type option you posted! I'm afraid with vvs clarity it might be too clean. But I guess if there is internal graining it might work

 

[Karl_K]

Yeah, that's what I've started to realize. So hard to find. If I found a stone I like on idex, csn any vendor theoretically help me find/purchase it?

Yes, but its going to be on a as is no return basis.

 

[Karl_K]

Thanks! I like the criss cut type option you posted! I'm afraid with vvs clarity it might be too clean. But I guess if there is internal graining it might work

To clean more than likely.

 

[lovedogs]

Yes, but its going to be on a as is no return basis.

Ugh that's unfortunate

 

[lovedogs]

So here's one with a cloud as inclusion. That might work.

0.70 Carat F SI1 Round Brilliant Natural Diamond GIA Certified 7482764862 Affinity Cut - D58483767

0.70 carat, Round, F Color, SI1 clarity, GIA Certified Diamond, GIA Certificate 7482764862, Affinity Cut Natural Diamond, D58483767

www.adiamor.com

Or this one

1.20 Carat D SI2 Oval Natural Diamond GIA Certified 6452325441 Excellent Cut - D52085248

www.adiamor.com

 

[RMOO]

I posted this one earlier and still wonder if all that graining might work, SI2, with grade setting cloud and strong fluoro:

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-15371312

 

[lovedogs]

I posted this one earlier and still wonder if all that graining might work, SI2, with grade setting cloud and strong fluoro:

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-15371312

I think it has to be v strong fluor. I got and returned an I1 with strong because it wasn't milky/strong enough in sunlight. Thank you though!!!

 

[lala646]

Outside of your budget but did you see the amazing diamond Dolly posted recently? Amazing!

It's so incredible. If olyl I had the $$....

 

[lovedogs]

@Karl_K what are your thoughts on a high color, strong fluor, with I1 clarity "clarity is based on clouds not shown" plus a bunch of other inclusions?

Do you think it needs to be very strong fluor to be overblue?

 

[Karl_K]

@Karl_K what are your thoughts on a high color, strong fluor, with I1 clarity "clarity is based on clouds not shown" plus a bunch of other inclusions?

Do you think it needs to be very strong fluor to be overblue?

Does not always have to be vsf to be overblue but its more likely.
For the amount your seeking I would stick with vsf..

 

[lovedogs]

Does not always have to be vsf to be overblue but its more likely.
For the amount your seeking I would stick with vsf..

I figured. Damn. Thought I might have gotten lucky.

For reference, thus is the one in question

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.21-carat-e-color-i1-clarity-very-good-cut-sku-14239058

 

[Karl_K]

Does not always have to be vsf to be overblue but its more likely.
For the amount your seeking I would stick with vsf..

I wanted to add that I once held a legit gia none that was near overblue in sunlight from UV(not reflecting sky). There are other wavelengths of UV that diamonds respond to than GIA uses. It can be argued that the are using the wrong wavelength.
There is a much better chance with vsb.

 

[Karl_K]

I figured. Damn. Thought I might have gotten lucky.

For reference, thus is the one in question

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.21-carat-e-color-i1-clarity-very-good-cut-sku-14239058

Inclusions in the clouds are too big and dark and not very dense.
Not a good candidate.

 

[lovedogs]

Inclusions in the clouds are too big and dark and not very dense.
Not a good candidate.

Thanks!!

 

[lovedogs]

Inclusions in the clouds are too big and dark and not very dense.
Not a good candidate.

Any more promising?

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.09-carat-d-color-i1-clarity-sku-14684631

 

[Karl_K]

Any more promising?

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.09-carat-d-color-i1-clarity-sku-14684631

same I think.
The ideal inclusions for overblue look more like dust not gravel.
That one is more gravel and poorly cut.

 

[SparklieBug]

Just saw this:

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[lovedogs]

Just saw this:

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Sadly that company only sells to trade, I've asked

 

[oncrutchesrightnow]

Sadly that company only sells to trade, I've asked

Looks like Instagram is helping you!

Below is from Etsy.

 

[lovedogs]

Looks like Instagram is helping you!

Below is from Etsy.

That's lab grown so no fluor

 

[RMOO]

Just throwing these up here (like cooked spaghetti to see if they stick.) Do not feel obligated to respond if they don't suit...

D, Si2, Cloud, Strong Blue and the numbers aren't horrible:
https://www.brilliance.com/loose-di...make-si2-clarity-gia-certified-SKU-D121787077

E, I1, Cloud, Strong Blue
https://www.brilliance.com/loose-di...-make-i1-clarity-gia-certified-SKU-D122069859

 

[RMOO]

D, Si2, cloud is only inclusion, SBF
https://www.brilliance.com/loose-di...make-si2-clarity-gia-certified-SKU-D121858218

D, I1, clarity based on clouds not shown, SBF with "color patches"
https://www.brilliance.com/loose-di...-make-i1-clarity-gia-certified-SKU-D121770455

 

[lovedogs]

Just throwing these up here (like cooked spaghetti to see if they stick.) Do not feel obligated to respond if they don't suit...

D, Si2, Cloud, Strong Blue and the numbers aren't horrible:
https://www.brilliance.com/loose-di...make-si2-clarity-gia-certified-SKU-D121787077

E, I1, Cloud, Strong Blue
https://www.brilliance.com/loose-di...-make-i1-clarity-gia-certified-SKU-D122069859

@Karl_K any hope of tjese working? The .4 looks nice and milky/cloudy to me, but strong fluor instead of v strong

 

[Karl_K]

@Karl_K any hope of tjese working? The .4 looks nice and milky/cloudy to me, but strong fluor instead of v strong

wants email addy and phone # to show video, they can kiss my grits!
Twice.

 

[SparklieBug]

Sadly that company only sells to trade, I've asked

Do you have someone in the trade who would purchase for you? Maybe whoever will be making the setting for you?

 

[freddyboston]

have you looked at this Light Milky V Strong one yet ?

0.63 Carat Natural Diamond, Round Cut, SI1, F Color, GIA Certified

Round cut, 0.63 carat natural diamond, certified by GIA. F color and SI1 clarity. Priced at $1018, is 39% lower than our fair price estimate.

www.rarecarat.com