J Color Stones in Platinum
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One of the professional appraisers posted here or in a DT thread that one of the most frequent mis-grades he sees is supposed J stones that are really L or M. Just something to be aware of. His post is in a thread about an M colored diamond but I can''t find it without a lot of sifting through search results.
Mara
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Ada....that'd probably be true of most maul purchases, but on Pricescope I highly doubt there are many people who own J's who have purchased either online or offline with research that are truly owning L or M's...especially since most people on here would take their purchase to a secondary independent appraiser to check it out.
So in the real world out there....quite possibly if they do not do their homework first someone could take home the wrong thing. However, the idea of this particular thread is to show how great a J or even a K that is well-cut and properly graded can look in platinum or white gold settings, and I think it has succeeded wildly!
So in the real world out there....quite possibly if they do not do their homework first someone could take home the wrong thing. However, the idea of this particular thread is to show how great a J or even a K that is well-cut and properly graded can look in platinum or white gold settings, and I think it has succeeded wildly!
Glad you cleared that up, gal. ;-D But I''d bet that "maul" purchases far outnumber PS & DT. I also know of many towns that lack convenient access to a highly skilled independent appraiser and thus most people there are not sending stones out for appraisals. If an independent appraiser bothers to mention he is seeing misgraded Js that are really L/M, then the misgrading is probably even more widespread. Thus I thought the issue worth mentioning. Comprehend?
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Oh, I'd agree that overall, maul purchases do far outnumber PS and other forums........and that being so, perhaps the best place to warn folks about J stones would be standing outside the local mall....where most of those "misgraded Js" are likely purchased. (Incidentally, given the labs being used, it's not just J stones that are misgraded in that environment, by the way.)
Considering that most of the participants here aren't "maul" purchasers, the sage advice would seemingly miss it's intended target market here.
I tend to feel that an offhand comment by an independent appraiser saying "I'm seeing misgraded J stones that are really L/M" is really far too vague to be of much use for my liking. I honestly think such statements perpetuate the "FUD" syndrome and contribute unnecessarily to the mistrust of the industry.
There's too much information missing in such a vague comment. Does he notice it more with certain labs? Does he notice it more in offline vs. online purchases? Does he notice it more in larger goods vs. smaller goods? Is he talking about fancy stones more than RB? Hard to know.....maybe his appraisal business only sees IGI or EGL European stones coming through the door, right? After all, as you astutely point out, maul purchases "far outnumber" other venues, and mauls *overwhelmingly* carry EGL/IGI stones and tend not to carry more than a handful of GIA stones and almost no AGS stones. So it's strongly likely that the majority of what he's appraising is maul stones and not the stricter quality AGS/GIA stones. Who knows?
This is really the problem with such broad statements. People end up reading them and they come away with "J stones are often misgraded L/M stones", apply such admonishings too broadly and it NEEDLESSLY scares a whole bunch of folks away from stones that would be great choices for them. Hopefully, threads like this one showing all the great J stones will help to defray this effect.
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No matter how large and beautiful your stone is, there will always be someone with a bigger, brighter stone. It is the same with houses, cars, etc.
With the exception of people like those on Pricescope and some jewelers, few will examine your stone as closely as you will. Your stone looks very beautifl from the photos and I doubt that the other women were comparing the color of your stone with theirs.
I have a 2.95 pear shape stone that was my original engagement ring. I have had it many years and always thought it was beautiful until my husband decided I should have an upgrade for an Anniversary present. Then I started looking around and reading the Pricescope forums and I realized that my stone did not have much life and is probably not a great cut. I always thought it was a really great stone until I learned how to judge. I am going to make it into pendant because I want to keep it.
I now have a 4.10 I color round stone with an ideal cut and it looks very white in most circumstances and not that white in artificial light. We live in Manhattan and have gone to operas, ballets, formal events, etc. where my stone is the size of a side stone for some rings. I wanted the biggest, most beautiful ring I could get for the money and I did not want to tie up so much money in a ring that I would be afraid to wear it and have to keep it in the vault and pay some exhorbitant insurance on it.
My husband and children are the best jewels. The ring is just a very pretty accessory to a happy life. It is not the biggest or best stone I have ever seen but I love wearing it because my husband wanted me to have it. I grew up in a family of limited means but had very rich, showy relatives with great jewelry and I never in my wildest dreams expected to have a ring like this.
Jennifer5973
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My 1.56, J, SI2 in 14K WG pendant
LuvsPricescope
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Gosh I wish I knew how to take a great picture! FI and I were intitally looking for 1.5 carats, D color, VVS-VS clarity. I had read the threads here on great lower color & clarity stones so I definitely had an open mind as long as the cut was beautifull. I told this to all of the jewlers we had met with. Oropaz in Atlanta, GA really shocked me when they sent me an email saying they had a 2.51 carat J, SI2 they wanted me to see. Never in my life did I even think I''d have 2 carats no less 2.51! I was hoping to maybe one day upgrate to a 1.8! So went to check it out but still worried it would be yellowy with visible inclusions. My jaw hit the floor when I saw the ring. It was so stunning, absolutely white and NO visible inclusions...even under a loupe. Even after seeing the GIA report I still couldn''t locate the inclusions as they''re feathers. I can only see them if i scrutinize through the pavillion. They let me take the ring outside in daylight as well as view it all over the building in multiple different lightings. White and flawless everywhere! Had FI inspect the ring and he was delighted. Needless to say we couldn''t be happier with this J, SI2! Great ones may be hard to find, but they are certainly worth the effort!
Mara
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ok LV where are the pictures of this fabulous find? none of that ''i wish i could take good pictures''...take SOMETHING and post it!! we have to see this 2.50 J SI2 marvel, especially me since that is what i am planning on sticking with for future upgrades!
congrats! now, pictures!
congrats! now, pictures!
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Playing with my camera now. Just can''t get a good close-up to save my life! I''ll post one of the crappy pics if need be, but I really want to capture the pretty! J S12 are the BEST!!
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