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Date: 6/7/2009 5:52:05 PM
Author: Chrono
I am familiar with Multicolour and their rating system. Despite what the picture shows, a rating of 7 per GIA means it is dark toned.
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I was asked whether it''d be "too dark," not whether it''d be "dark." The question is moot anyway as Maisie wants an asscher-shaped stone. I only brought up the picture of that stone as an example of colour. I made no representations as to its accuracy.

Maisie,
For the fun part ... give us a range of colours you like!
 
If you have 3,500 sitting around I know a guy with a spessartite to die for. 4 carats. Pure Fanta. I almost passed out when I saw it.

Alternately I''d get Gene to cut me something in a yellow/orange garnet. That would be my stongest preference.
 
Maisie- what about a spess in this range? http://thegemtrader.com/Jan%2009%20Spessartite%20Page.htm

orange with a pop of red... which makes it much less expensive, apparently. Really lovely, I think!

Just for color reference though, since it is not your preferred shape. I wonder if you might need someone to custom cut for you, since you want a pretty specific shape.
 
D&T those garnets are gorgeous!
 
Date: 6/7/2009 7:30:41 PM
Author: szh07
D&T those garnets are gorgeous!
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I know, i love it! with concave faceting on some parts.. yummy- I think one of those garnets will be on my wishlist... ahhh next time.

Maisie- GEM 874 (the one you posted with the ring) is Sold now,,, did you get it?
 
Date: 6/7/2009 2:04:24 PM
Author: Maisie
Date: 6/7/2009 1:56:40 PM

Author: CharmyPoo

In my opinion (although no one asked), if I am going to invest in a Leon RHR .. I would pay the bucks for a stone that is worth while. That is .. I wouldn''t spend a couple hundred dollar stone in a 3 to 4 thousand dollar setting. There are stones that are not diamonds but are high quality or rare that will be worth the money in these settings. My thoughts are Harriet is a prime example of doing this right.
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You edited your post after I responded. I understand that most people won''t understand me buying an expensive setting for a less expensive stone.
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Maisie hon,
I understand!
I had my Jim Meyer made for a ~$350 garnet - and I think it works perfectly
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Of course, my JM will not be as exxy as that Leon - but you should just do what makes you happy.

However, I will suggest, decide exactly what colour/shape you''re after and have it custom cut by either Gene, Barry or Jeff White. It just feels more special that way too, knowing the gem was cut just for you, kwim?
I''m sorry but I just don''t think Dan''s faceting will stand up in a Leon - don''t get me wrong, I have a nbr of Dan''s stones and love them - but this is just a different standard, is all.

That spess you linked from Gene I have had my eye on for a while - but I''m not a huge fan of that cut (you however, may be)..
Why don''t you ask those cutters what they can do for you in an asscher or cushion cut - bonus, Barry has just started cutting modified asschers like last week, and they look fab
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Date: 6/7/2009 8:31:07 PM
Author: D&T
I know, i love it! with concave faceting on some parts.. yummy- I think one of those garnets will be on my wishlist... ahhh next time.

Maisie- GEM 874 (the one you posted with the ring) is Sold now,,, did you get it?
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I bought and returned a gem to Gene that was similar to 874. All brown like a dull copper penny in most lights. I was sad
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Maisie: What a wonderful project! That's spessartite in my avatar... it's one of my favorite stones for color and brilliance! If you can narrow down the range of colors you're interested in, it might be worth your while to get a stone cut just for you. Spessarttite can range from the very tangerine-y "fanta" shade, to a rich cognac-y color, to rich red with hints of orange.

Honey (or hyacinth) zircon is another orangish option, but my experience with zircon has been kind of spotty. I have one cinnamon colored zircon that has great sparkle and color. Subsequent attempts to buy warm zircons have led to disappointment, so this isn't a stone I'd feel comfortable getting cut to order.

Do you have a stone shape an size range in mind?
 
I definitely love orange or yellow for the stone. I don't want a brownish colour though. That wouldn't give me the look I want. I don't want a vibrant orange either. I would love an asscher or cushion. In fact I had an email from Barry last night and he offered to cut me a cushion in golden yellow heliodore. He was planning on recutting it anyway I think so I won't be tied to buying it if its not right for me.
For size I would say no bigger than 7x7.

I honestly didn't think it would be this difficult to buy the stone. I am so naive!
 
Date: 6/8/2009 4:10:52 AM
Author: Maisie
I definitely love orange or yellow for the stone. I don''t want a brownish colour though. That wouldn''t give me the look I want. I don''t want a vibrant orange either. I would love an asscher or cushion. In fact I had an email from Barry last night and he offered to cut me a cushion in golden yellow heliodore. He was planning on recutting it anyway I think so I won''t be tied to buying it if its not right for me.
For size I would say no bigger than 7x7.

I honestly didn''t think it would be this difficult to buy the stone. I am so naive!
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Your Leon ring will be so beautiful. I''m glad you are making progress finding your perfect stone.
 
I called Leon today to have a chat about my options. He is going to send me a photo of a ring he thinks I will like. I will update when I have seen it.... he was absolutely lovely to me on the phone.
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Peter Torraca has a spessartite garnet that might work for you. It looks kind of brown in the picture but it doesn''t hurt to ask how that translates to reality.

I never worry about putting inexpensive stones into expensive settings. Funnily enough, my Leon is my only piece where the setting cost less than the stone.
 
I''ll just add that I''d probably rather go with a cushion for the shape, to make shopping for the next stone less complicated. Off course, you can always have a stone custom cut, but going with a cushion would probably save you some money (and give you more options since cushions and ovals are the most common shapes when it comes to colored stones).

P. S. Also consider malaya garnets; they can come in quite nice reddish-orange shades and are not very expensive.
 
Date: 6/8/2009 4:10:52 AM
Author: Maisie
I definitely love orange or yellow for the stone. I don''t want a brownish colour though. That wouldn''t give me the look I want. I don''t want a vibrant orange either. I would love an asscher or cushion. In fact I had an email from Barry last night and he offered to cut me a cushion in golden yellow heliodore. He was planning on recutting it anyway I think so I won''t be tied to buying it if its not right for me.
For size I would say no bigger than 7x7.

I honestly didn''t think it would be this difficult to buy the stone. I am so naive!
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Oooh... heliodore! I think arjunajane''s heliodore is just yummy, myself...

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/yellow-beryl-heliodore-etsy-bezel-ring.115436/
 
Love that one FLY GIRL!
 
Here's the modified asscher spessertite. It has a slight window that would close up in a setting, but it sparkles. It's a bit too dark for me, so I'll probably be returning it. However, someone else might want it. It's still a lovely and vibrant stone. It's from Jason Brim. Excuse the smudged fingers, I got ink on myself today.

3.5 carats.

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FlyGirl,
That concave faceting really makes the citrine stand out. Beautiful.
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It''s not Richard''s standard concave faceting pattern either.
 
Date: 6/8/2009 4:10:52 AM
Author: Maisie
I definitely love orange or yellow for the stone. I don't want a brownish colour though. That wouldn't give me the look I want. I don't want a vibrant orange either. I would love an asscher or cushion.
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As someone who bought (and returned) a stone with very similar colourings, I can safely say that the stone you originally posted is going to be very vibrant. I did post a few handshots in my thread, and can find more of them on my cameras if you wish. Very pretty though, and there's no warnings about it being cut shallow, so it should be a good buy, if you wanted to go that way.

Looks like a nice project!

Edit: oh, and that citrine is gorgeous, too!
 
Date: 6/8/2009 3:59:17 PM
Author: Maisie
I love AJ''s ring!


How about this one...


http://www.webgraphicsengineering.com/Gemstones/detail.cfm?zNum=5282
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That looks nice, I didn''t realize you were interested in concave cuts as well. Have have been through that site a few times (as I bought my stone through RH).

Did you see these?


Orange-red spess




Hessonite - not sure about color

However, a spinal would be a great choice as it is also a hard stone (MOS 8) and has a ton of sparkle.
 
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