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southLA504

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Hello all, was hoping y'all could help me with some questions I have.

I have seen people talk about how big is too big for a halo.

My girlfriend really wants a halo ring so i don't really have a choice. The center stone I have is a 2.07 carat round. Would this be too big for a halo? The diameter is 8.3mm and i'm concerned if the halo diamonds are too large it will look almost like too much and a cocktail ring, but her mind is made and she wants a halo!

Also I have seen halo's that have large surrounding stones and u can tell they are visibly different stones. I prefer the much smaller halo stones where they all blend in and look as one together. Any idea what size these halo stones would be? I've read people will usually use between .01 to .03 for a halo and even go up to .05 and as small as .005

As of right now, i'm leaning towards either the .01 or .005

Thanks for everyone's help!
 

frugalfw

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Hi SouthLA.

It really comes down to personal preference, as there are lots of different halo styles.

Have you seen any halo rings that you know she likes? If so, you might want to post them here for further input or show the pics to your jeweler to have them match the style and size ratio of center diamond to side diamonds.
 

southLA504

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Hi and thanks for your reply frugalfw!

We were looking through images last night and came across exactly what she wants. A round stone (which I already have, but she has no idea)and a cushion halo with a split shank.

The following image is a picture of what she wants, a simple, thin halo and band with a split shank. I love this one personally because it doesn't take away from the center stone at all but rather enhances it IMO.

img_660.jpg

Now before I post the second picture of what she does not want, I DO NOT want to offend anyone. To me jewelry are like cars. Everyone has their own thing they like, trucks, cars, luxury etc. Therefore; if u like this style I'm not saying it isn't nice, it just isn't for her.

In the first image the halo diamonds are set to blend together forming a solid halo, in this following image it seems the halo diamonds are made to be more spread out so you can visibly see the independent diamonds going around it.

kirk_kara_cushion_halo_engagement_ring_k1170dc-rt_grande.jpg

If I had to guess, those are .005 in the first halo and maybe .05 in the second?
 

southLA504

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Also is there a certain style or name for the differences between a halo that has it's diamond look to blend together, opposed to the 2nd image where they look separate?

Thanks!
 

southLA504

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Also if anyone wants to post up pictures of their halo and the diamond sizes our their center and halo stones that would be awesome!
 

UrsTx

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What's your budget for the setting, if you don't mind my asking?
 

frugalfw

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SouthLA - Check out these two posts which will give you a lot of helpful information on the halo you want made:

~ This is one PS'ers journey to her perfect halo ring (from frankiextah). There is a lot of helpful info regarding specs:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/victor-canera-rb-halo-ring-my-forever-setting-finally.164262/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/victor-canera-rb-halo-ring-my-forever-setting-finally.164262/[/URL]

~ I think you may also find this post very helpful:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/[/URL]

To help make sure that you get the ring made exactly the way you want, you will definitely want to give the picture you found to your jeweler.

BTW, this is a beautiful ring and looks much like Victor Canera's Anne Marie ring: https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/the-anne-marie-split-shank-halo
 

southLA504

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Don't mind u asking at all. I was looking to be in the 2,000 - 3,000 range for the setting. Which i don't think will be a problem since her and I both prefer the smaller halo diamonds. From the research i've been doing, I think i've narrowed it down to either half or 1 pointers. Just trying to decide which would look better with a 2 carat stone. Most of the .005 pointers i've seen i've loved but they have been on 1.5 carat rounds.

I'm thinking a split shank cushion halo with 1 pointers might be the way to go.

Also thanks for ur reply.
 

southLA504

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frugalfw|1442365803|3928214 said:
SouthLA - Check out these two posts which will give you a lot of helpful information on the halo you want made:

~ This is one PS'ers journey to her perfect halo ring (from frankiextah). There is a lot of helpful info regarding specs:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/victor-canera-rb-halo-ring-my-forever-setting-finally.164262/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/victor-canera-rb-halo-ring-my-forever-setting-finally.164262/[/URL]

~ I think you may also find this post very helpful:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/[/URL]

To help make sure that you get the ring made exactly the way you want, you will definitely want to give the picture you found to your jeweler.

BTW, this is a beautiful ring and looks much like Victor Canera's Anne Marie ring: https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/the-anne-marie-split-shank-halo

Thank you very much! You have been very helpful!

I believe in that 2nd link, those are for cushion cut diamonds only?
 

frugalfw

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southLA504|1442365921|3928216 said:
frugalfw|1442365803|3928214 said:
SouthLA - Check out these two posts which will give you a lot of helpful information on the halo you want made:

~ This is one PS'ers journey to her perfect halo ring (from frankiextah). There is a lot of helpful info regarding specs:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/victor-canera-rb-halo-ring-my-forever-setting-finally.164262/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/victor-canera-rb-halo-ring-my-forever-setting-finally.164262/[/URL]

~ I think you may also find this post very helpful:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/[/URL]

To help make sure that you get the ring made exactly the way you want, you will definitely want to give the picture you found to your jeweler.

BTW, this is a beautiful ring and looks much like Victor Canera's Anne Marie ring: https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/the-anne-marie-split-shank-halo

Thank you very much! You have been very helpful!

I believe in that 2nd link, those are for cushion cut diamonds only?

Of course...glad to help!

On the 2nd link -- yes, the link is regarding the making of a HW-style cushion halo with a cushion shape diamond, but the principles for building your halo ring are much the same -- particularly since the ring picture you love is of a cushion halo surrounding a Round center diamond...this is important to tell/show your ring designer, as it does not seem you want a round halo for your round diamond. Scroll past the bit on selecting a cushion diamond to "Step 3" and I think you will begin to find some help for having your setting made (such as a nice list of vendors for custom and ready made).
 

UrsTx

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I immediately thought of VC's Anne Marie setting too but with a round center. That setting is prob higher than the budget you listed but it's worth a call to find out. If you don't have a jeweler in mind, I'd also suggest talking to David Klass (who is NOT the same as David K Jewelers if you google him) for another quote. I think he'd do a great job too!
 

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That is a gorgeous setting! I second Victor Canera to make it, because it could be very dangerous getting a jeweler who is not a pave master to make it. You don't go to Victor and tell him how big the diamonds should be. He knows exactly how to make it! However, you will have to increase the budget to have a setting that quality.
 

southLA504

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Thanks for ur help everyone!
 

solgen

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Canera will probably be double your intended budget.

1 pointers for the halo would likely compliment it quite well.
 

southLA504

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solgen|1442373821|3928259 said:
Canera will probably be double your intended budget.

1 pointers for the halo would likely compliment it quite well.

Thanks, and yeah usually u are going to pay more when getting a big name designer. My plan was just to do my research and fine a nice setting on my own or with the help of my jeweler.
 

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southLA504|1442379185|3928287 said:
solgen|1442373821|3928259 said:
Canera will probably be double your intended budget.

1 pointers for the halo would likely compliment it quite well.

Thanks, and yeah usually u are going to pay more when getting a big name designer. My plan was just to do my research and fine a nice setting on my own or with the help of my jeweler.

When you work with Victor, just tell him the look you are going for, details and such, and he will handle the actual size of the melee and all that. Anne Marie with Victor. It's a stunning setting.

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...ct-oec-victor-canera-split-shank-halo.168492/

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...t-eternity-band-for-double-row-emilya.188383/
 

southLA504

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LLJsmom|1442386662|3928312 said:
southLA504|1442379185|3928287 said:
solgen|1442373821|3928259 said:
Canera will probably be double your intended budget.

1 pointers for the halo would likely compliment it quite well.

Thanks, and yeah usually u are going to pay more when getting a big name designer. My plan was just to do my research and fine a nice setting on my own or with the help of my jeweler.

When you work with Victor, just tell him the look you are going for, details and such, and he will handle the actual size of the melee and all that. Anne Marie with Victor. It's a stunning setting.

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...ct-oec-victor-canera-split-shank-halo.168492/

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...t-eternity-band-for-double-row-emilya.188383/

Thanks for ur reply! Will def check it out.
 

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southLA504|1442379185|3928287 said:
solgen|1442373821|3928259 said:
Canera will probably be double your intended budget.
1 pointers for the halo would likely compliment it quite well.

Thanks, and yeah usually u are going to pay more when getting a big name designer. My plan was just to do my research and fine a nice setting on my own or with the help of my jeweler.

The problem is that most jewellers are not experienced enough with setting such small melees.
 

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solgen|1442373821|3928259 said:
Canera will probably be double your intended budget.

1 pointers for the halo would likely compliment it quite well.

Exactly this!
 

southLA504

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tyty333|1442425585|3928481 said:

Thank you! It's a round stone but she wants a cushion halo setting. Personally I rather the round halo but there is no changing her mind haha.
 

southLA504

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Chrono|1442427912|3928498 said:
southLA504|1442379185|3928287 said:
solgen|1442373821|3928259 said:
Canera will probably be double your intended budget.
1 pointers for the halo would likely compliment it quite well.

Thanks, and yeah usually u are going to pay more when getting a big name designer. My plan was just to do my research and fine a nice setting on my own or with the help of my jeweler.

The problem is that most jewellers are not experienced enough with setting such small melees.

Good to know! I wasn't aware of this. Thanks!
 

southLA504

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Ok so I am officially the biggest idiot in the world. Originally when I bought the diamond it was just the stone when we agreed on the price. However; I just called the jeweler talking about what I wanted the setting to look like and talking about pricing and he was like "Don't you remember I said for the price I would also include the setting?" So basically the setting is already paid for. It's currently set in a round halo in 18k white gold and .49 carat weight. I told him I wanted to go with a cushion halo instead and he said no problem, just pick one out around the same carat weight and no extra charge!

Anyway he says he orders his settings from GabrielNY.com and Stuller.com and said if I can't find one I like they also do custom settings.
Anyone familiar with GabrieleNY or Stuller?

Would it be weird to ask if I could get a setting from Ritani or someone else because maybe he gets discounts from these 2 companies or is that usual?

He also said that the a rep from gabrielNY will be coming down from new york and bringing their whole collection, this way i'll be able to look in person at them.

Thanks

The deal is looking better and better lol.
 

mns12

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HI,
I just happen to have a 2.07 round in a very delicate cushion halo. Plain shank but I love the subtle split shank as well!
Victor didn't provide the exact size of the melee but I do know the entire setting (melee on halo, stems, and donut) is .30 ct so I would venture to say no larger then 1/2 pointers or .005. Ring size 4.5

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southLA504

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mns12|1442435966|3928565 said:
HI,
I just happen to have a 2.07 round in a very delicate cushion halo. Plain shank but I love the subtle split shank as well!
Victor didn't provide the exact size of the melee but I do know the entire setting (melee on halo, stems, and donut) is .30 ct so I would venture to say no larger then 1/2 pointers or .005. Ring size 4.5

_dsc1043.jpg _csc1134.jpg

That is EXACTLY what I want in the halo, but also like u said, with the paved split shank. Thank you so much.

Beautiful ring BTW!
 

southLA504

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tyty333|1442437740|3928571 said:
Yes, we do recommend Gaberial & Co on occasion. I say go pick the one you want and tell him the exact one before he orders
a different one. It may cost you a little more money if you pick a split shank.
https://eshop.gabrielny.com/products-bridal/attDivision-BTBR-GBBR/attCategory-ER/attStyle-HALO

You would have to ask him if he is a Ritani dealer.

Thanks! I was looking through them and it seems like almost all their cushion split shanks are very thick and the few small dainty ones I find that I like are round halo's. I wonder if the ones i like in the round halo they could change into a cushion halo?

there are a ton of cushion halo's with single shanks (I guess it's called this) that I love, i wonder if they could turn them into split shanks?

Is this common or no?

Thanks!
 

southLA504

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https://eshop.gabrielny.com/product/ER10523R4T83JJ/amavida

something like this would be perfect and exactly what I am looking for, only problems are:

1. The rose gold, would they be able to do it in all white gold?

2. It says the center stone size is for 1 carat, would it be a problem for them to adjust it to a 2 carat?

thanks.
 

southLA504

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tyty333|1442437740|3928571 said:
Yes, we do recommend Gaberial & Co on occasion. I say go pick the one you want and tell him the exact one before he orders
a different one. It may cost you a little more money if you pick a split shank.
https://eshop.gabrielny.com/products-bridal/attDivision-BTBR-GBBR/attCategory-ER/attStyle-HALO

You would have to ask him if he is a Ritani dealer.


Definetly a good idea! The good part is he said in a few weeks a representative from GabrielNY will be coming to his store for 2 days with their whole collection and i'll be able to see them in person. This would probably be the best way to go about it if I had to guess.
 

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southLA504|1442438844|3928578 said:
https://eshop.gabrielny.com/product/ER10523R4T83JJ/amavida

something like this would be perfect and exactly what I am looking for, only problems are:

1. The rose gold, would they be able to do it in all white gold?

2. It says the center stone size is for 1 carat, would it be a problem for them to adjust it to a 2 carat?

thanks.

You would have to ask Gabriel or your jeweler.

That's great if you can wait the 2 weeks and see them in person. That would really help you make up your mind!
 
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