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The bbc news is reporting cohen got 400k for foreign influence to the president
Only $400K??... What a stupid idiot the Clintons got a lot more than that.
 

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A judge just ruled that trumpanzee can't block people from his twitter account, even though he had the account before he was elected, because he now works for the people. This is the only thing that could entice me to join twitter and I'm doing so for the express purpose of unloading my vitriol on him.
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Give em hell :lol:
 

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Give em hell :lol:
I'm having the best time tweeting little donnyj, little mr. eeny teeny peeny, mr. peepee puddles, and I haven't even started on the good stuff yet.
 

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They can go kneel in front of the WH now...24/7

...or they can take their football and just walk off the field. If I were a player and someone told me to shut up, that's what I would do. The players are the only ones with any talent. F*ck any Trump supporter who tries to gag them.

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...or they can take their football and just walk off the field. If I were a player and someone told me to shut up, that's what I would do. The players are the only ones with any talent. F*ck any Trump supporter who tries to gag them.

AGBF
They should do it!. I wanna see how they will be able to support their lavish lifestyle. I'm sure there are plenty of college players will to take their place.
 

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...or they can take their football and just walk off the field. If I were a player and someone told me to shut up, that's what I would do.
The NFL certainly bungled this. The solution is for all teams to remain in the locker room until the anthem is finished.
 

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The New York Jets have stated they will pay the fines if their players decide to kneel. Why aren’t other team owners doing the same?

1,475 of the over 7,000 children which ICE seized from their parents are missing and unaccounted for. They possibly will never be reunited with their parents.

How does our government lose 1,475 children? SICKENING
 

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The New York Jets have stated they will pay the fines if their players decide to kneel. Why aren’t other team owners doing the same?

Callie-

I don't think that is the best solution. Someone on MSNBC pointed out that the owner of that team also caved in to Trump; he should have voted against the resolution, not abstained and said he would pay the fines out of his own money.

That is also why I disagree with Matata that the best solution is to stay in the locker room. If the players have to stay in the locker room, they are effectively barred from public protest.

I want the players to be able to protest publicly and I want Trump's nose rubbed in it. I want Trump to "stand proudly" in the mud like Yertle The Turtle, "King of The Mud, for that's all he can see", and all he can control.

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Callie-

I want the players to be able to protest publicly and I want Trump's nose rubbed in it. I want Trump to "stand proudly" in the mud like Yertle The Turtle, "King of The Mud, for that's all he can see", and all he can control.

Deb/AGBF
Then the players should go protest in front of the WH. . They can go pee on Trump's face.
 

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I want the players to be able to protest publicly and I want Trump's nose rubbed in it.
There is no right to free speech or freedom of expression in the workplace. Football players are in their workplace during games. Some of them are high profile players with ample opportunity to express their views outside of their place of work. While I applaud Kaepernick's and others' stance and their symbolic gestures, the Constitution doesn't appear to be on their on side on this issue. To be fair to all, I'd like to see all gestures related to religion and protest banned from sports events and the national anthem played only during official government events.
 

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There is no right to free speech or freedom of expression in the workplace. Football players are in their workplace during games. Some of them are high profile players with ample opportunity to express their views outside of their place of work. While I applaud Kaepernick's and others' stance and their symbolic gestures, the Constitution doesn't appear to be on their on side on this issue. To be fair to all, I'd like to see all gestures related to religion and protest banned from sports events and the national anthem played only during official government events.

I'm with Matata on this. The players just need to stay out of view until the de facto obeisance to the symbols of America is over. Although ideally, religion of any flavor including the forced civil variety, should be removed from public events like this. There is no real reason other than historical war influences and the endless attempts by Christianity that everyone be pressured to the point of being forced, to act in public like they agree with them, driving it all.

But I get that football is an apotheosis of war/religion/hyper-masculinity/race and tribal affiliation that is so well blended now, that it will probably take oh, like forever, to untangle. I'm thinking only WWIII and a few nukes, might break the enchantment.

And that's just one more reason I pretty much LOATHE football. (There are others I haven't mentioned)
 

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Did anyone see Ivanka’s twitter yesterday? It was a picture of her holding her youngest child as the two looked at each other smiling . There are 1,475 children that are separated from the parents that the Trump administration has lost. The president and his daughter are evil.
 

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Does anyone else find it absolutely insane that a woman who got her start being famous doing a sex tape ( among other things ), is going to the White House today to talk about prison reform, without any background in the subject ( prision reform) when the GOP party just said shootings are caused by ****?

Welcome to the new republican party folks. :snooty:
 

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I heard the school shooting being caused by **** story last night. The thing that really had me LOL was the idiot who said this also went on to say “**** is available on the shelf of the grocery store. You have to reach up to get it, but there’s pornography there” I guess this Republican congresswoman has never heard of the internet or google.

I’ve been to quite a few grocery stores and haven’t seen a teenager reaching for **** in the magazine aisle.
 

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This week tRump was supposed to be practicing with rudy for the mueller interview. This morning apparently during his tv time he posted this


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Just :hand: mr trump , no.

If rudy is telling him that 1. It doesn’t matter why he fired comey and 2. That he can lie and say it wasn’t because of the russia thing... then he is in a lot more trouble than he can understand.
I suspect he is making these lies up all on his own though.

( Not that tRump doesnt lie all the time and about anything, and sadly about 1/3 of the US will believe this new and beyond obvious blatant lie despite facts and proof and his flat out admitting it on national tv and then the white house guests) BUT is there REALLY NO ONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE who understands that when he unprompted admitted he fired comey to get rid of the russia thing —- the video is NOT going to diappear becuase he wants to lie about it now?

When mueller has the interview he will simply have to ask one question , hello mr trump, please tell us why you think we asked you here today?

Then let him rant and ramble for 3-4 hours on tape and simply collect the perjury charges. They wont need a single “gotcha question”. The guy will literally hang himself, he seems to be a liar to the core.
 

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I am totally in favor of legal abortion because I have seen what an illegal abortion can do to a woman's fertility and pain. That said I totally agree with you, birth control should be easy, free and encouraged. My husband thinks the reason why B/C is not free and easy is because men subconsciously or thru genetics want control of women and to continue their line. Could be true. Abortion has been going down year after year.


I know I am probably the odd ex republican here who is pro life and I am firmly against abortion in nearly every circumstance.

BUT here is how I see it .... the best way to prevent abortion is EDUCATION and providing FREE AND easy access to JUDGEMENT FREE birth control to both men and women. Fewer abortions will happen if there are fewer unintended pregnancies!
Why are we not offering all people education on birth control methods? Why is there not access for all people to obtain over the counter EFFECTIVE birth control.
If you want a lower percent of abortions then you must have a MUCH higher percent of pregnancies that are planned.
How can any person believe that less education regarding reproduction and taking funds from those who provide birth control is going to have a positive effect on the abortion rate? Telling people not to have sex cannot be Plan A . It isnt realistic and is counterproductive.
Many women who find themselves in a position where abortion is a consideration find it is very stressful (to grossly understate the topic.) It is a difficult decision for many women. There are often a LOT of factors that they must consider.

I know of NO woman who would want to have to make the decision, if it could have been avoided.

Why is a pro-life party not enthusastically working to ensure EACH woman is empowered with knowledge AND the ability to control her body and make her own decisions about if or when to have a child.

Teaching women how to effectively avoid a pregnancy that might result in an abortion would seem to me to be a FIRST LINE of abortion prevention.

We need more planned parenthood centers. We need parents who will have frank and honest discussions about condom use. Parents who tell daughters about their cycles, explain in detaill what they must do for protection from both undesired pregnancies and the STD’s. It infuriates me that the prolife groups are not working day and night to help women understand and proactively take control of their lives.

Most people dont like abortions as a form of birth control! Both sides of the abortion debate want fewer women who must grapple with the decision when a pregnancy was not planned
Dont deny funding for abortions. Demand that fewer abortions will be needed becuase when a pregnancy happens it is planned and wanted.
 

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The big three Trump crimes for me today are:

1)The tariffs on aluminum and steel which went into effect today. The man is a complete idiot.

2)The policy of separating parents and children at our borders when they are seeking asylum, not attempting to enter The United States illegally, although that would never justify such a policy, either!

3)The pardons of celebrity Nazis with an intent to show that there are two classes of people. "We" do not go to prison, "the little people do". And also the intent to show that pardons are available to those who commit crimes for the right and will be available to his supporters and to people who were prosecuted by his enemies, like Comey.

AGBF
 

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The big three Trump crimes for me today are:


(snip of 1 and 2)

3) The pardons of celebrity Nazis with an intent to show that there are two classes of people. "We" do not go to prison, "the little people do". And also the intent to show that pardons are available to those who commit crimes for the right and will be available to his supporters and to people who were prosecuted by his enemies, like Comey.

Here is what the editors of "The New York Times" say about Donald Trump and his use of pardons (excerpted).

"The handful of pardons that President Trump has granted so far may appear to be scattershot, but they’re beginning to show a distinct pattern ....

On Thursday, Mr. Trump pardoned Dinesh D’Souza, the right-wing troll known for, among other things, posting racist tweets about President Barack Obama, spreading the lie that George Soros was a Nazi collaborator and writing that “the American slave was treated like property, which is to say, pretty well.”

In 2014, Mr. D’Souza pleaded guilty to making illegal campaign contributions, although he claimed that he had been targeted for political reasons. Last year, President Trump fired Preet Bharara, the federal prosecutor who handled Mr. D’Souza’s case. 'KARMA IS A BITCH,' Mr. D’Souza exulted on Twitter Thursday, with his trademark graciousness. Mr. Bharara, he added, 'wanted to destroy a fellow Indian American to advance his career. Then he got fired & I got pardoned.'

Mr. Trump, who told reporters that Mr. D’Souza 'was very unfairly treated,' has the authority to pardon anyone he likes, for almost any reason. But pardons send a message. What message can we take from Mr. Trump’s executive clemency?

Maybe the president is sending a signal of loyalty and reassurance to friends and family members who may soon find themselves facing similar criminal charges in connection with the special counsel’s Russia inquiry. That could help explain Mr. Trump’s interest in Mr. D’Souza (campaign-finance violations), as well as two other big names he hinted on Thursday he might grant clemency to — the lifestyle maven Martha Stewart (lying to federal authorities) and former Gov. Rod Blagojevich of Illinois (corruption and bribery) — and a previous Trump pardon, Scooter Libby, former Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff (perjury and obstruction of justice).

Or maybe Mr. Trump is wielding his pardon power against his perceived enemies in federal law enforcement. Besides Mr. Bharara, there’s James Comey, who prosecuted Ms. Stewart, and Patrick Fitzgerald, who prosecuted both Mr. Blagojevich and Mr. Libby, and is a friend of Mr. Comey’s.

And let’s not forget Joe Arpaio, the former Arizona sheriff and hunter of undocumented immigrants, whom Mr. Trump pardoned last summer for contempt of a federal court order — Mr. Trump clearly was thumbing his nose at the federal court that found Mr. Arpaio guilty.

Or perhaps Mr. Trump simply is dealing another hammer blow to the legacy of Mr. Obama, who focused his own clemency efforts on reducing the lengthy sentences of thousands of low-level drug offenders with no personal connection to the White House.

The tendency of presidents of both parties to reward cronies with clemency — from Gerald Ford’s pardon of Richard Nixon to Bill Clinton’s of the financier Marc Rich — is one Washington tradition that we’d welcome Mr. Trump smashing. Alas, it’s one that he shows every sign not only of continuing but of embracing: Mr. D’Souza told The Daily Caller that Senator Ted Cruz of Texas engineered his pardon with a personal plea to the president, even though Mr. Trump told reporters, 'Nobody asked me to do it.'

One thing is becoming clear: Donald Trump uses whatever power he has to attack the people he feels have wronged him, and he will do what he feels he must to protect himself. For him, pardons are a means of vengeance. Those he’s issued to date are only a small hint of what could be coming as the Russia investigation heats up. Last year, John Dowd, Mr. Trump’s lawyer at the time, discussed the prospect of pardons for two of the president’s former top advisers, Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort, with their lawyers.

As Vox’s David Roberts wrote on Twitter, 'Pardoning is basically the one presidential power that works the way Trump thought ALL of being president worked. He’s gonna use the [expletive] out of it.'

That is the real message of these pardons — and that, more than Mr. Trump clearing the record of some noxious clown, is what should really worry us."


Link to editorial...https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/31/opinion/dinesh-dsouza-trump-pardons.html
 

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Martha Stewart probably won a lot of fans by the gracious way she handled her prison term. It is my fond hope that if Trump pardons her, she would refuse the pardon.

But yes, these pardons are probably intended to set the stage for more of the same and to send a signal to Trump’s allies and cronies.
 

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This is a report of a whole new level of brashness on Trump's part. It is hard to imagine that he could have gotten worse, been emboldened to seize more power that was not his under The Constitution, but apparently he did get worse. In recent weeks his lawyers have argued that he is above the law, that he does not have to answer questions because he could have closed any investigation and pardoned anyone. How is that for chutzpah?

Link to article in "The New York Times"...https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/02/us/politics/trump-lawyers-memo-mueller-subpoena.html
 

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Yeah, I saw that report. If it is true, trump needs to fire his lawyers. That letter would be another exibit at his trial for after he is impeached. If he had half a brain , he would shut up and plead the 5th saying nothing. He would then get pence to agree to give him a full pardon in exchange for his resigning. His crimes go back decades and mueller isnt stupid enough to not see all that has to happen is to wait till jan 22nd of 2021 to get the indictments processed and the democratic president will not be pardoning him or his ilk.
 

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I'm having the best time tweeting little donnyj, little mr. eeny teeny peeny, mr. peepee puddles, and I haven't even started on the good stuff yet.

And here, I would disagree.

I believe that Trump is the master bully who, like any immature person, never grew after high school, goes after looks (and for some puzzling reason, IQ...). He has done it all, insulted Carly Fiorina, insulted Hillary, insulted all these models... We can not outbully him, and we should not even go there. It is just another joke that the public eagerly waits for. Even those jokes about the size of hands were low-class.

Only how we disagree with his president's politics. Such as trade wars (that are going to hit us). Reposting the charts showing how much the states that voted for him are going to lose on new tariffs imposed by Canada. Trying to show all those who hoped it would be different what a mistake they made.
 

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I am pro choice as well. My problem with the Republican platform on pro choice and pro life is that they are anti birth control access, anti sex education, and anti child healthcare and education. I really would like to know what their end game entails, since this path means there will be more children born into poverty, with poor health and educational access. Do they think that the "undesirables" will just die out or disappear, or that this "tough love" strategy will "wisen up" people?

I am pro choice. I would not list my own reasons/opinions, because I believe that my old dad, who I consider the biggest feminist, summed it up nicely.

He said, he observed his grandmother, mother, wife and daughter. And came to a conclusion that, give or take, raising a kid, ultimately, falls on the mother. So, he said, a woman almost always stays with the kid. And hence, the women have to decide...
 

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The only thing...to remind people that Ukraine is not "Russian meddling". Ukraine and Russia used to be one country till 1991, but now there is war between the two. Since 2014. That in no way are these two countries partners. They are enemies.
 

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Well it comes as no suprise that the sociopath who would have his lawyers send a 20 page letter on how he doesnt have to testify, today decided to announce that he has the right to pardon himself and that the special counsel is unconstiutional.

Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see where this is going. Sadly the republican party will say nothing and do nothing. I will be writing my congressman and 2 senators again, and then i will need to turn off the news, becuase watching trump tear at the fabric of our constution and legislative branch do nothing it just too much to deal with.
The system of checks and balances was never supposed to work where one branch let the other have absolute authority and control by turning a blind eye. Because congress and the senate refuse to even investigate, and insist whatever he does is totally fine we will all suffer.
 
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