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HELP me pick my $10,000 diamond!

rockysalamander

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At this size diamond and price, super-ideals and really nice GIA are similar in price. If size (spread) is your absolute goal, then I think you should go look at GIA graded diamonds. Look at an I and H. Not side by side. Ask them to hand them to you one at a time. Look at them under natural light (near a window or away from case-lights) and look. Do you see tint? Do you you care? If the I color works, this is an increadible value. I would put this on HOLD.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-260694.htm

For custom, I would go with David Klass among your choices. I like the newer setting better and I'd make the prong modification suggested by @sledge and the key is to add contact between the shoulders and head (see yellow highlight). The setting still has a peg head, as shown, but you just need to ask DK to make the prongs integrated. I also love the idea of adding 2 more prongs. To me, this is still a substantial setting that, to me, really takes the focus.
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I like that this has a smaller shank width. You'd still need to revise the prongs as above. I'm guessing this is a shown with a 1 carat. You could easily modify the shoulder to have the baguettes and rounds in the middle. Its all just smaller.
traditional-style-6-prong-engagement-ring-bbr328.jpg


When compared to this - which is similar to your design, the center looks much smaller.
the-high-class-escalating-split-shank-diamond-engagement-ring-bbr392.jpg


Ignore the head/halo on this. I really like this shoulder. The pinch will really make the diamond the focus and look bigger. You can keep the rounds and baguettes in the center of the shoulder.

she-will-say-yes-unique-round-diamond-engagement-ring-bbr458.jpg

https://www.bloomingbeautyring.com/...-unique-round-diamond-engagement-ring-bbr458/

Here is a similar setting as above with a pinch and it narrows a bit more. Again, the head needs to be simplified and lowered, but this gives you a another visual.
antique-vintage-setting-style-with-unique-hand-carving-and-v-shape-shank-bbr359.jpg


These prongs show that you can lower the stone and have the prongs have more contact with the shoulders. https://www.bloomingbeautyring.com/...ing-diamond-and-smooth-stylish-prongs-bbr161/

To give you more idea of propotion, here a JA setting that is 2.4 mm shoulder with a 1.2 carat stone.
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https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...-and-round-diamond-engagement-ring-item-49474

This setting is 4.28 mm at the top. The diamond is just a tiny bit wide bigger.
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ClemsonPurdue

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Went ring shopping again today. Guys, please no judgement... I’m thinking of going in a different direction. When I looked at the rounds in the thick ornate bands similar to what I’ve posted on here, the Center stone is definitely getting lost. I randomly grabbed the below ring and fell in love.

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It is a rectangular radiant cut. I felt like it has the uniqueness I’m looking for because of the shape, and it’s slenderizing on my finger because it’s vertically long. The setting compliments the Center stone and let’s it be the focus. Yet the setting has plenty of sparkle and flash and is the cathedral look I’m going for. And I like that I can put a wedding band with it. Basically I feel like this ring is unique, makes a statement, looks good on my hand, and is classic. What do you all think??? The pictures don’t do it justice. It was beautiful in person.

How difficult is it to find a radiant online? Can I find a decent one right under 2 carats for $12,000? The one in the picture is around 8x6 mm.
 

sledge

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That new ring is very similar to the VC French cut suggested by @LLJsmom on page 1. I like this overall look much better personally.

However, my 2 cents is the wedding band needs less bling, smaller or something as the edge of the center stone disappears a little to me.
 

rockysalamander

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Went ring shopping again today. Guys, please no judgement... I’m thinking of going in a different direction. When I looked at the rounds in the thick ornate bands similar to what I’ve posted on here, the Center stone is definitely getting lost. I randomly grabbed the below ring and fell in love.

31642E6E-1E81-4F30-8ECD-E7DECEF7148F.jpeg

It is a rectangular radiant cut. I felt like it has the uniqueness I’m looking for because of the shape, and it’s slenderizing on my finger because it’s vertically long. The setting compliments the Center stone and let’s it be the focus. Yet the setting has plenty of sparkle and flash and is the cathedral look I’m going for. And I like that I can put a wedding band with it. Basically I feel like this ring is unique, makes a statement, looks good on my hand, and is classic. What do you all think??? The pictures don’t do it justice. It was beautiful in person.

How difficult is it to find a radiant online? Can I find a decent one right under 2 carats for $12,000? The one in the picture is around 8x6 mm.
Have a look at DiAMONDSBYLAUREN. They are great with fancies. I can look later, as well.
 

Matthews1127

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Radiants are fancy cut diamonds. Fancy cut diamonds are much more complex, as there are no “ideal” proportions, and most of your search results will come up with varied shapes, facet patterns, and open a whole new can of worms.
This is where your preference for shape & facet pattern come into play, as well as NEEDING visual aid assistance to rule out the duds & find the studs! You will need ASET images and multiple videos demonstrating how the diamonds perform in varying light environments. Ideally, personal examination would be best to determine what you love.
If your focus is now on fancy cut, rectangular diamonds, I will also implore you to keep an open mind, and include Cushion Cut, Criss Cut & Emerald Cut Diamonds in your search.
Once you narrow your search to the fancy cut that most suits your taste, then you can search for the stone that speaks to you. That setting will hold any diamond, any shape. You just need to find the one that speaks to your heart.
 

farrahlyn

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ditto the suggestion of Diamonds by Lauren. David is a fan of Radiants IIRC and you would be in really good hands. ITA with checking out step cuts too. i am getting that you want bold and to make a statement and i think an emerald cut would REALLY make it for you. You need to check some out in person for SURE.

I do see what you like about the setting. There is a clear definition between the center rectangular stone and the round stones in the setting just because of the different shapes. plus the side stones are large enough that it doesn't just blend. i think it's poorly executed though. The setting itself is too soft and rounded for the angular look of a rectangular stone, IMO. I prefer something like this, it still has curve to it but it's crisp, doesn't have softened edges and works better with a square/rectangular stone. Just my opinion of course.

https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...r-milgrain-diamond-engagement-ring-item-49486
same with these: https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...d-inspired-diamond-engagement-ring-item-41042
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...ney-engagement-ring-by-jeff-cooper-item-62694


that said, a few stone options: (be sure to look at l x w measurements)

Radiant:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/radiant-cut/1.70-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-sku-3505551
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/radiant-cut/1.71-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-sku-4043082
not entirely sure why but i really like this one (something about it is just mezmorizing):
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/radiant-cut/1.71-carat-g-color-si1-clarity-sku-4352620

Emerald:

(not sure if this would appear eye clean)
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/1.71-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-sku-4197994
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/1.71-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-3008941
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/1.71-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-sku-5075818
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/1.71-carat-d-color-si1-clarity-sku-5158439
 

diamondseeker2006

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Just so you know, you likely will not find a radiant with as good light return as you can find in a round. I personally would never choose a radiant for that reason. I do love emerald cuts which have a similar shape, but you have to really search to find well cut emerald cuts, as well. I definitely like this setting better, though, and think it will be more timeless.
 

ClemsonPurdue

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My search was put on hold for a couple days with a crazy work week. @sledge - I completely agree that a little less bling in the wedding band would be better. @rockysalamander - I looked at DiamondsbyLauren but didn’t see any in the category I’m looking. Maybe I need to call them and see what they can find? @Matthews1127 and @Athena10X - I’m pretty sure I don’t want an emerald because I want more sparkle. The Peruzzi and old mine cushion make me nervous because they are very unique cuts. I suppose I would be open to a rectangular cushion. I need to go look at cushions and radiant side-by-side to see which one I like better. @farrahlyn - I love the settings you posted, particularly the 2nd one. The other two have milgrain which seems a bit vintage to me and I’m trying to go for a more modern look. I think I would still have DK do the setting with a band. I loved the 3rd diamond you posted! The proportions were perfect because it’s difficult to find a 6 x 8 which is the approximate size I’m looking for. Unfortunately it sold. . @diamondseeker2006 - do you think I can find A radiant that has plenty of brilliance and sparkle? There are so few online. I thought maybe I need to call a vendor and see what they can find me. I just don’t know how to go about finding a good stone, that is D/G/H color, with plenty of sparkle, in correct proportions, at right price. ‍♀️
 

rockysalamander

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My search was put on hold for a couple days with a crazy work week. @sledge - I completely agree that a little less bling in the wedding band would be better. @rockysalamander - I looked at DiamondsbyLauren but didn’t see any in the category I’m looking. Maybe I need to call them and see what they can find? @Matthews1127 and @Athena10X - I’m pretty sure I don’t want an emerald because I want more sparkle. The Peruzzi and old mine cushion make me nervous because they are very unique cuts. I suppose I would be open to a rectangular cushion. I need to go look at cushions and radiant side-by-side to see which one I like better. @farrahlyn - I love the settings you posted, particularly the 2nd one. The other two have milgrain which seems a bit vintage to me and I’m trying to go for a more modern look. I think I would still have DK do the setting with a band. I loved the 3rd diamond you posted! The proportions were perfect because it’s difficult to find a 6 x 8 which is the approximate size I’m looking for. Unfortunately it sold. . @diamondseeker2006 - do you think I can find A radiant that has plenty of brilliance and sparkle? There are so few online. I thought maybe I need to call a vendor and see what they can find me. I just don’t know how to go about finding a good stone, that is D/G/H color, with plenty of sparkle, in correct proportions, at right price. ‍♀️
I would reach out to Diamonds by Lauren directly. They likely have more stock than is presently posted or they can find something. Ask to speak to David.
 

ClemsonPurdue

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So I just started over with a new thread. Please take a look at it. You all have been so incredibly helpful so far!!!

2 carat radiant cut is the thread
 
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