Help me figure out if this diamond is worth 7.8k

[ohsomethingshiny]

These settings are made by a popular custom maker that are similar.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlOdJbdFwJa/?taken-by=davidklassjewelry
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkLCwH9FclR/?taken-by=davidklassjewelry
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjsIEocFkxO/?taken-by=davidklassjewelry (shank not center)

It is well worth getting a quote from DK for the ring. We can help you through the CAD stage.

No joke, @rockysalamander has your back! Those diamonds are so much better and in the same price range. They will out perform the one from the store. (And speaking of the one from the store, have you looked at it away from the jewelers’ counter? Have you been able to see it in natural light, either escorted outside or by a window? You need to see it in various lighting scenarios as that will help you to better assess any diamond.)

As for the setting, don’t let the word “custom” scare you. The setting your girl likes is fairly common and one that can be found through most designers. Thing is, by going with a reputable designer like David Klass (who has a phenomenal reputation), you can add custom touches (if desired), have a piece of better quality, and likely save money over what you’ll find in a chain store.

Just my two cents.

 

[ohsomethingshiny]

They look great! But how do I know if they are clean? Especially the first one, it seems too cheap for E color, I am worried there's stains or other issues in the stone that you can see with your naked eye.

You can request video of the stone. The companies suggested by the experts here on PS have wonderful reputations (or else they wouldn’t be suggested on PS).

 

[ez-real]

They look great! But how do I know if they are clean? Especially the first one, it seems too cheap for E color, I am worried there's stains or other issues in the stone that you can see with your naked eye.

I noticed both of the have Blue Fluorescence, one of them even strong. Does that mean they will look blue?

 

[Matthews1127]

You can request video of the stone. The companies suggested by the experts here on PS have wonderful reputations (or else they wouldn’t be suggested on PS).

@ohsomethingshiny’s correct. All you have to do is reach out to the vendor, and request additional visual aids: videos, ASETS, and ask their gemologist how “eye clean” the stone is from different distances (ie: 3”, 6”, 10”, etc). You can request videos of the stone in varied light environments. B2C is reputable, and will assist you.
Even if they don’t have the diamond in stock, they can get it, and give you anything you ask for.
You should put the diamond on hold, before someone else snatches it up, first!

 

[rockysalamander]

They look great! But how do I know if they are clean? Especially the first one, it seems too cheap for E color, I am worried there's stains or other issues in the stone that you can see with your naked eye.

Put the stone on hold and then ask the vendor. You want to know if they are eye-clean at 6"? 10"? You want to know if there are any transparency issues from the inclusions or flourescence. They are both honest vendors. They both have great return policies if you are unhappy.

Get the ASET for the B2C and hold the GOG. With GOG, they are both a B&M and online store. They are very reputable and will answer you honestly. B2C is a good online vendor. They are bit more no-frills than GOG, but that should not preclude considering them.

Flour is mostly a cool party trick that will make the stone slightly blue under strong UV (night clubs and nail salons). At SI2, you want to always ask if it will affect transparency. I , personally, love it. Its a really neat effect. My daily diamonds, sadly don't have it.

Sharon - Thanks for the reminder of the hesitation on the setting. If we are careful, we'll get a diamond that holds open all options for the poster. @canuk-gal

 

[Matthews1127]

I noticed both of the have Blue Fluorescence, one of them even strong. Does that mean they will look blue?

Only under strong UV light. Most fluorescence does not negatively effect a diamond. You can ask the vendor to inspect it, and tell you if the fluorescence has any affect on the diamond. Rarely, it does.

 

[lovedogs]

It looks the same. It's 7 small diamonds on each side. 0.48C total. All G-VS2.

If the setting you are looking at is .48 in 14K gold, and looks like the JA one, there is no possible way it's worth 2800. That's a completely insane cost for that setting. It aojld be a massive ripoff and waste of money to pay so much for a setting that should cost under 1K. And I promise you'd have better quality from David klass or JA pnline. I would run (quickly) away from any store who charged that much for such a simple setting.

Edit. Op said 2200, not 2800. Still insanely overpriced!

 

[Matthews1127]

If the setting you are looking at is .48 in 14K gold, and looks like the JA one, there is no possible way it's worth 2800. That's a completely insane cost for that setting. It aojld be a massive ripoff and waste of money to pay so much for a setting that should cost under 1K. And I promise you'd have better quality from David klass or JA pnline. I would run (quickly) away from any store who charged that much for such a simple setting.

Edit. Op said 2200, not 2800. Still insanely overpriced!

I was thinking the same thing. My ER setting is a Neil Lane and it was under $1,500.

 

[lovedogs]

I was thinking the same thing. My ER setting is a Neil Lane and it was under $1,500.

Exactly. Plus, if he gets a better quality setting for less than 1/2 the price then he has more $ for the diamond itself!!

 

[ez-real]

What do you think of this guy? No fluorescence (faint)
https://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/11637340/round-diamond-I-color-SI1-Clarity?sku=11637340

 

[stonewell]

If the setting you are looking at is .48 in 14K gold, and looks like the JA one, there is no possible way it's worth 2800. That's a completely insane cost for that setting. It aojld be a massive ripoff and waste of money to pay so much for a setting that should cost under 1K. And I promise you'd have better quality from David klass or JA pnline. I would run (quickly) away from any store who charged that much for such a simple setting.

Edit. Op said 2200, not 2800. Still insanely overpriced!

This ^... +1000. If you’re being charged 2200 for this setting, run. It’s quite a common setting and one could be made by DK for substantially less. I’d put the difference into the diamond - like one of the two @rockysalamander posted or possibly a larger stone.

 

[rockysalamander]

Could be Vatche, Tacori or another such brand...

 

[Matthews1127]

Could be Vatche, Tacori or another such brand...

But, why spend $2K+ on a setting, if you don’t have to? There are plenty of settings that look just like that, at lower cost to the consumer.
Putting more $$$ into the stone makes more sense.

 

[ohsomethingshiny]

What do you think of this guy? No fluorescence (faint)
https://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/11637340/round-diamond-I-color-SI1-Clarity?sku=11637340

@rockysalamander @Matthews1127

I’m in the car with hubs, kids, and two dogs heading to our vacay spot. LTE service is spotty. Can you help him out? HCA tool isn’t working for me right now and I don’t know enough about what makes angles complimentary.

 

[Matthews1127]

@rockysalamander @Matthews1127

I’m in the car with hubs, kids, and two dogs heading to our vacay spot. LTE service is spotty. Can you help him out? HCA tool isn’t working for me right now and I don’t know enough about what makes angles complimentary.

This is what I got:

 

[ez-real]

But, why spend $2K+ on a setting, if you don’t have to? There are plenty of settings that look just like that, at lower cost to the consumer.
Putting more $$$ into the stone makes more sense.

You are all right. But the big problem is that you can't see the ring you buy online. She is very opposed to that idea. I might get a better diamond and a customized ring but since she might not like it. Looking back I might have put her too much in that decision of choosing a ring, and I can't change back the time now. That's the ring she likes and I pay another $700 premium for it - shall be it. The diamond bothers me much more since the I1 for 7.8k doesn't seem right.

 

[Matthews1127]

Wait....wrong cert. *sigh*

 

[Matthews1127]

You are all right. But the big problem is that you can't see the ring you buy online. She is very opposed to that idea. I might get a better diamond and a customized ring but since she might not like it. Looking back I might have put her too much in that decision of choosing a ring, and I can't change back the time now. That's the ring she likes and I pay another $700 premium for it - shall be it. The diamond bothers me much more since the I1 for 7.8k doesn't seem right.

You’re right. Which is why we are trying to help you find something of better value for your money.
If you decide to purchase that setting, knowing you can get the same thing for a LOT less, at least you’re making an INFORMED decision. That is what we do, here.
The ultimate choice, is yours.

 

[rockysalamander]

@rockysalamander @Matthews1127

I’m in the car with hubs, kids, and two dogs heading to our vacay spot. LTE service is spotty. Can you help him out? HCA tool isn’t working for me right now and I don’t know enough about what makes angles complimentary.

Inclusion at 6 o'clock won't cover with a prong. Angles a mess.CA way too low.

 

[ez-real]

You’re right. Which is why we are trying to help you find something of better value for your money.
If you decide to purchase that setting, knowing you can get the same thing for a LOT less, at least you’re making an INFORMED decision. That is what we do, here.
The ultimate choice, is yours.

Thanks. I really appreciate your help. I just registered an hour or two ago and you guys want to help me as a friends help each other.
We can go back to the diamond issue - the one I posted, you think it's good? I like the one that were posted here before, but they have strong fluorescence, which I am worried about. You guys are the experts so I want to know what you guys think about it.

 

[Matthews1127]

Thanks. I really appreciate your help. I just registered an hour or two ago and you guys want to help me as a friends help each other.
We can go back to the diamond issue - the one I posted, you think it's good? I like the one that were posted here before, but they have strong fluorescence, which I am worried about. You guys are the experts so I want to know what you guys think about it.

Not an expert. Just live on PS...lol! Have learned A LOT!
Don’t be afraid of Fluorescence; it only picks up in strong UV environments. It rarely has any affect on a diamond. Rarely. If it spooks you, talk to the vendor. They can confirm it for you.
The diamond you posted isn’t ideal for your budget: CA is too low, and it scores a 2 on the HCA.

 

[ez-real]

Inclusion at 6 o'clock won't cover with a prong. Angles a mess.CA way too low.

What diamond? I am really confused. please provide GIA number since there are like 6 diamonds in this thread and I am not sure what diamond are you talking about.
Same for @Matthews1127 - "The diamond you posted isn’t ideal for your budget: CA is too low, and it scores a 2 on the HCA." - what diamond is that?
Thanks.

 

[ez-real]

Is 2 on HCA low? Because the original diamond I posted (from the local jewelry store) is 2.6.

 

[Matthews1127]

What diamond? I am really confused. please provide GIA number since there are like 6 diamonds in this thread and I am not sure what diamond are you talking about.
Same for @Matthews1127 - "The diamond you posted isn’t ideal for your budget: CA is too low, and it scores a 2 on the HCA." - what diamond is that?
Thanks.

What do you think of this guy? No fluorescence (faint)
https://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/11637340/round-diamond-I-color-SI1-Clarity?sku=11637340

 

[Matthews1127]

Is 2 on HCA low? Because the original diamond I posted (from the local jewelry store) is 2.6.

Ideally, you want your diamond to score between 1 & 2. You’re looking for XXX. A score of 2 gives you VGXVG.

 

[ez-real]

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Ideally, you want your diamond to score between 1 & 2. You’re looking for XXX. A score of 2 gives you VGXVG.

The ring I posted originally from the local jewlery store has 2.6 and (X,VG,X) on it's certificate. How can that be? Exellent Cut and symmetry, VG Polish

 

[lovedogs]

@ez-real HCA is a way to easily accept/reject a diamond based on angles, table size, depth, etc. You want it to score under 2. Anything above 2 is an easy "reject". So the one from the store is out at 2.6, and the one you posted that @Matthews1127 just commented on is a 2, meaning it should be rejected as well.

 

[Matthews1127]

c

The ring I posted originally from the local jewlery store has 2.6 and (X,VG,X) on it's certificate. How can that be? Exellent Cut and symmetry, VG Polish

The cert is different than the HCA. The HCA calculates your table, depth, Crown angle & Pavilion angle.
It has nothing to do with polish & symm.
It’s a calculation of the cut of the stone using its proportions.

 

[lovedogs]

Also @ez-real, the XXX on the gia cert isn't the same XXX as the HCA gives. Look at the screenshot....HCA gives info about light return, polish, scintilation, spread. Gia gives cut, symmetry, polish. You want XXX on both hca score and gia cert.

 

[lovedogs]

Lol jinx @Matthews1127