Help me figure out if this diamond is worth 7.8k
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Is local jeweler independently owned, or a chain store?
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My* experience is that local jeweler’s tend to be a little more expensive than online vendors.
Honestly, a lot of smaller businesses have taken a hit due to the popularity of online purchases. Even my own, local jeweler has decided to start lowering their prices on diamonds to stay competitive with online vendors. They will likely jack up their prices on their settings to try to make up the difference.
What do you think about the actual diamond though? I found a setting both me and my GF love, and we will buy it from there, but thinking reducing the price or getting maybe a better quality diamond from James Allen / Blue Nile and give it to the store to put in the setting we like.
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What are your preferred specs? Perhaps we can find you some stiff competition, online?
If your jeweler has access to the same diamonds, they may sell you the same diamond for the same amount as what is listed online, or less, to keep your business? If not, you may want to take the online purchasing route....
If your jeweler has access to the same diamonds, they may sell you the same diamond for the same amount as what is listed online, or less, to keep your business? If not, you may want to take the online purchasing route....
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In theory, this is an amazing idea.
Have you discussed this option with your jeweler? Are they willing to set a stone they did not sell you? Are they going to insure the diamond, while it is in their care, during the setting process?
Add: I cannot comment on a diamond based upon it’s certification.
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I CAN tell you that I3-1 clarity is not recommended for Engagement rings. Especially not an ER center stone in the carat weight range you are searching.
What is your budget just for the diamond?
What is your budget just for the diamond?
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This is a super-ideal WF ACA, 1.43 G VS1 ($14k+):
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4008482.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4008482.htm
My budget is 10k and the ring is already 2.2k, so no more than 7.8k for the diamond.
Diamond I am looking, by priorities:
1. Top priority and non negotiable - at least 7.2-7.3mm for the round diamond diameter
2. Excellent cut
3. No less than I color
4. Clarity - should be clean to the eye (this is the hardest to know when looking online, but even if it's I1 and eye clean then it's good with me, but obviously prefer at least SI2, SI1, or even VS2, but then it bumps the price a lot)
Diamond I am looking, by priorities:
1. Top priority and non negotiable - at least 7.2-7.3mm for the round diamond diameter
2. Excellent cut
3. No less than I color
4. Clarity - should be clean to the eye (this is the hardest to know when looking online, but even if it's I1 and eye clean then it's good with me, but obviously prefer at least SI2, SI1, or even VS2, but then it bumps the price a lot)
As you can see the diamond in the store is exactly 7.8k, and has 1-3 priorities checked. Clarity is the biggest issue, but it's clean to the eye. It's HCA is 2.6, which I am not sure if it's bad. The diamond is nice don't get me wrong, but I am thinking I could get a better diamond for the buck online.
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If you drop to J color, this is eye clean, and depending on the setting you choose, you can prob cover the majority of the large inclusion with a prong:
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/l...j-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-5266416
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/l...j-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-5266416
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To be honest, and please don’t hate me....
The setting can be chosen, later. Your main focus should be on the diamond.
You will likely have better options at 9-10k for the spread you are reaching for.
A temp setting with the perfect diamond should work, until you can get the money together for the setting she loves. You can even shop around & custom build the setting to cradle her diamond.
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I agree, but if only it was so easy for her. She cares mostly about the ring, and the size of the diamond. She already found the ring she loves, and looks kind of like that:
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...ite-pave-engagement-ring-flush-fit-item-56252
she only wants to buy the ring in store since she doesn't know if the ring online would look as nice, would be thick enough.
I am just here to make her happy, and make sure that I won't get ripped off with the diamond in the same store. So I need opinions on that diamond or any other diamond I can buy online and will be better value for that money.
I appreciate your help, but in the end of the day if she's happy with the diamond in the store and that ring, then I am happy. If it was me who was wearing that diamond, i'd buy a simple few hundred dollar plain ring and and a 9k+ SI1 or even VS2 clarity diamond.
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I would not consider the diamond you posted with the clarity below SI2.
Can you tell us about the setting? Who's the maker and model of the setting? Any pics? The JA setting you posted would be hard for me to see at 2.2k unless its massively heaver relative to side stones.
Can you tell us about the setting? Who's the maker and model of the setting? Any pics? The JA setting you posted would be hard for me to see at 2.2k unless its massively heaver relative to side stones.
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Ok, so here’s my million dollar answer:
I’ve already proven you can find a diamond at the spread you desire with the following stats:
7.2mm Round
I/J clarity
SI2/SI1 clarity
For UNDER $7,800.
As a married woman with children, I feel confident in telling you that this isn’t just HER choice; it’s YOUR money. Yes, it’s HER ring, and SHE will wear it, but YOU will put it on her finger. YOU will propose with this diamond, and (supposedly) she will look at it every day for the rest of her life. I promise you....closer than 6” from her face. We ALL do. Even those of us who have been married for 50+ years, with poor eye sight. Even an “eye clean” I1 diamond will have noticeable inclusions to her. She needs to prioritize the diamond over the setting. What about Layaway options for the setting?? Can’t you make payments on it, over time, and put a better diamond in a temp setting until her dream setting is paid for?
Trillion dollar question: what is your private jeweler’s return/upgrade policy?
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These are better options and similar in price. Better color and clarity.
https://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/114692...m_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com
https://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond-search/1.51-Platinum Select Round Brilliant-EX-GIA--SI2-diamond-stock-16325-cert-1233485180 (great looking ASET)
PUT ON HOLD if you are interested. Then, ask for ASET images.
https://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/114692...m_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com
https://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond-search/1.51-Platinum Select Round Brilliant-EX-GIA--SI2-diamond-stock-16325-cert-1233485180 (great looking ASET)
PUT ON HOLD if you are interested. Then, ask for ASET images.
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Look at the diamonds I posted above. Then, put on hold. I'm with @Matthews1127 . Diamond first, then lets find a great setting that is just as nice.
MATTHEWS1127 first of all I'd like to thank you for the help. You are a true eye opener.
As I saw before, the diamond I saw doesn't have any inclusion you can see with your eye. I have looked at it 2 times already in store. I might be wrong, but I will take another look at it tomorrow.
The diamond you found is a J color. Is that an issue? I saw on JA that J diamonds look a bit yellowish. I believe a I eye clean diamond is better than J. I might be wrong again though. Can you find any I color, eye free for less than 7.8k?
As I saw before, the diamond I saw doesn't have any inclusion you can see with your eye. I have looked at it 2 times already in store. I might be wrong, but I will take another look at it tomorrow.
The diamond you found is a J color. Is that an issue? I saw on JA that J diamonds look a bit yellowish. I believe a I eye clean diamond is better than J. I might be wrong again though. Can you find any I color, eye free for less than 7.8k?
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@rockysalamander just posted some beauties!!! Check those out!! They look great for SI clarity!! E & H Color!!!
They do look amazing, and their cut is beautiful. Unfortunately they are above my budget since i won't have any money left for the ring.@rockysalamander just posted some beauties!!! Check those out!! They look great for SI clarity!! E & H Color!!!
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You said under $7800...did I miss something?
Oh wow, I completly missed one of your comments. I am looking at them now. Thanks!
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These settings are made by a popular custom maker that are similar.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlOdJbdFwJa/?taken-by=davidklassjewelry
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkLCwH9FclR/?taken-by=davidklassjewelry
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjsIEocFkxO/?taken-by=davidklassjewelry (shank not center)
It is well worth getting a quote from DK for the ring. We can help you through the CAD stage.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlOdJbdFwJa/?taken-by=davidklassjewelry
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkLCwH9FclR/?taken-by=davidklassjewelry
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjsIEocFkxO/?taken-by=davidklassjewelry (shank not center)
It is well worth getting a quote from DK for the ring. We can help you through the CAD stage.
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DK is a master craftsman!! His work is remarkable!!
They look great! But how do I know if they are clean? Especially the first one, it seems too cheap for E color, I am worried there's stains or other issues in the stone that you can see with your naked eye.
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