Help me choose a lab grown diamond please!

rzimbakov · Oct 6, 2023

I have been searching for quite some time and have finally narrowed down my search for a lab grown diamond that will hopefully be perfect for my soon-to-be wife.

These are the characteristic minimums that interest us:

Carat 1.87-2.5 max. Minimum VVS2 clarity. Minimum F colour. Minimum Excellent cut. Ideal table 54 to 57%. Ideal depth 59 to 62.6%. Round.

Trying to keep our limit to 1,500 for the loose diamond alone (okay if we go over a bit if the diamond worth it of course)

Indifferent about CVD vs HPHT and other post-treatments.

Here are links to the diamonds I have narrowed down to:

Diamond 1: https://www.brilliance.com/lab-grow...utm_medium=stonealgo_organic&utm_campaign=lab

Diamond 2: https://www.stonealgo.com/diamond-details/IGI-number-LG597387735

Diamond 3: https://www.rockher.com/apps/diamon...onealgo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=stonealgo

Diamond 4: https://www.rockher.com/apps/diamon...onealgo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=stonealgo

I plan to purchase the loose diamond separately and then go into my local jewellery store to get it reappraised by a professional during the free return period and also have them provide a setting for our engagement ring.

Any help and feedback is greatly appreciated!

any separate suggestions are also welcome! Thank you all in advance.

Kim N · Oct 6, 2023

The third one is the most promising of the bunch, but I do see some graining.

rzimbakov · Oct 6, 2023

Thank you for your response Kim! I have been searching and have found others as well. It is so tough to narrow it down, if you have another other suggestions that I did not list I am also open to that.

I have been speaking to representatives, using HCA to narrow it down and also cutScore from stoneAlgo but I know that all of this is not enough which is why I am reaching out to some people who would know much more than myself!

I have found these suggestions and am trying to follow them as closely as possible:

Total depth between 59 – 61.8%.
Table diameter between 53 – 58%.
Crown angle between 34.3 – 35 degrees.
Pavilion angle between 40.6 – 40.9 degrees.
Lower girdle facet length between 75 - 80%.
Girdle between 0.7% thin to slightly thick.
Culet: GIA "none” or AGS "pointed” (same thing).
Polish of AGS Ideal or GIA Excellent.
Symmetry of AGS Ideal or GIA Excellent.

DejaWiz · Oct 6, 2023

Hello and welcome to PriceScope, rzimbakov!
What's your budget cap for just the loose diamond?

As far as proportions and angles, here are my recommendations.

Table width: 53 – 56%.
Crown angle: 34 – 35
Pavilion angle: 40.6 – 40.8
Lowers: 75 - 80%

[Edit]
Nevermind...I see that you stated a cap of about $1500.

DejaWiz · Oct 6, 2023

Kim N need your eyes...
Here's a 2.5x in the E-F color VS1+ HPHT with the IGI Hearts and Arrows designation for under $1500.
40.7/35.3/56 combo
Thoughts?

Media Links

rzimbakov · Oct 6, 2023

DejaWiz said:
Kim N need your eyes...
Here's a 2.5x in the E-F color VS1+ HPHT with the IGI Hearts and Arrows designation for under $1500.
40.7/35.3/56 combo
Thoughts?

Media Links

Thanks for the warm welcome! That is a beautiful ring, where did you find it? Oh I see the IG # I will look it up! Thank you!

Kim N · Oct 6, 2023

DejaWiz said:
Kim N need your eyes...
Here's a 2.5x in the E-F color VS1+ HPHT with the IGI Hearts and Arrows designation for under $1500.
40.7/35.3/56 combo
Thoughts?

Media Links

It looks fantastic in this video. Great find!

rzimbakov · Oct 6, 2023

DejaWiz said:
Kim N need your eyes...
Here's a 2.5x in the E-F color VS1+ HPHT with the IGI Hearts and Arrows designation for under $1500.
40.7/35.3/56 combo
Thoughts?

Media Links

Kim N said:
It looks fantastic in this video. Great find!

Sorry I tried looking it up, I was unable to with the number found in the link, can someone please direct me I tried both GIA and IGI searches for

72291842

But was unable to find the diamond! Thanks in advance

DejaWiz · Oct 7, 2023

rzimbakov said:
Sorry I tried looking it up, I was unable to with the number found in the link, can someone please direct me I tried both GIA and IGI searches for

But was unable to find the diamond! Thanks in advance

Let me know when you are on the forum and I will post the link...I don't want an anonymous lurker to snatch it away before you've had a chance to look everything over.

DejaWiz · Oct 7, 2023

@rzimbakov are you still here?

rzimbakov · Oct 7, 2023

Yes I am! I am just preparing to tell you I am ready so when you send the link I can quickly compare all!

Thank you for your patience

DejaWiz · Oct 7, 2023

rzimbakov said:
Yes I am! I am just preparing to tell you I am ready so when you send the link I can quickly compare all!

Thank you for your patience

Here you go! Ask to place it on hold/reserve ASAP

You are being redirected...

rzimbakov · Oct 7, 2023

DejaWiz said:
Here you go! Ask to place it on hold/reserve ASAP

You are being redirected...

I have asked them via WhatsApp to do so, hopefully that is the best way

rzimbakov · Oct 7, 2023

just wanted to let you know I placed the order!

DejaWiz · Oct 7, 2023

rzimbakov said:
just wanted to let you know I placed the order!

Awesome! Please post lots of pictures and videos when you get this beauty!

You can download the high-res PDF version of your grading report here:

Verify Your Report | Verify Your Diamond Online | IGI

IGI's Verify Your Report service permits quick and convenient confirmation that your report matches what is recorded in the IGI database.

www.igi.org

Video here:

Media Links

rzimbakov · Oct 7, 2023

I absolutely will, you have no idea how grateful I am!

DejaWiz · Oct 7, 2023

rzimbakov said:
I absolutely will, you have no idea how grateful I am!

It's my pleasure and I hope this diamond turns out to be exactly what you've been desiring...looking forward to hearing your thoughts and impressions once you get it

rzimbakov · Oct 21, 2023

@DejaWiz I have sad news. My diamond was lost in the customs process, they are trying to send me a replacement but I don't believe I will go through with it. It is not as nice of a cut. You have so helpful before, I will now continue looking for one that meets my needs.

Here is the diamond that they recommended as replacement:

Loupe360

loupe360.com

Verify Your Report

Ensure authenticity & accuracy of your report here. Verify your gemstone report online for complete confidence in your precious investments.

www.igi.org

I'm very disappointed in this result, I was set on that diamond but on to the next one I suppose!

DejaWiz · Oct 21, 2023

rzimbakov said:
@DejaWiz I have sad news. My diamond was lost in the customs process, they are trying to send me a replacement but I don't believe I will go through with it. It is not as nice of a cut. You have so helpful before, I will now continue looking for one that meets my needs.

Here is the diamond that they recommended as replacement:

Loupe360

loupe360.com

Verify Your Report

Ensure authenticity & accuracy of your report here. Verify your gemstone report online for complete confidence in your precious investments.

www.igi.org

I'm very disappointed in this result, I was set on that diamond but on to the next one I suppose!

Did they send you two different options?
The diamond in the report is different than the diamond in the video.

Report number is LG602339427 for a 2.55 D VS1.

Diamond in the video bears video report number LG600380073 for a 2.55 E VVS2.

Loupe360

loupe360.com

...not that it matters, because both have proportions and angles that I wouldn't recommend.

rzimbakov · Oct 21, 2023

DejaWiz said:
Did they send you two different options?
The diamond in the report is different than the diamond in the video.

Report number is LG602339427 for a 2.55 D VS1.

Diamond in the video bears video report number LG600380073 for a 2.55 E VVS2.

Loupe360

loupe360.com

...not that it matters, because both have proportions and angles that I wouldn't recommend.

I just forwarded what Susan from LGD had sent to me via email.
Strange that it is not referring to the same diamond, but thank you for pointing that out.

I might have found an alternative if you and @Kim N could be of any assistance.

This is the new diamond:

Price and quality scores for IGI Number LG536207418

View the fair price estimate, Cut Score® and price history for IGI Certified Diamond LG536207418. Everything you need to know to buy this diamond.

www.stonealgo.com

Kim N · Oct 22, 2023

rzimbakov said:
I just forwarded what Susan from LGD had sent to me via email.
Strange that it is not referring to the same diamond, but thank you for pointing that out.

I might have found an alternative if you and @Kim N could be of any assistance.

This is the new diamond:

Price and quality scores for IGI Number LG536207418

View the fair price estimate, Cut Score® and price history for IGI Certified Diamond LG536207418. Everything you need to know to buy this diamond.

www.stonealgo.com

It's a pretty good diamond, but it seems to be a downgrade in many respects from the one that was lost.

rzimbakov · Oct 22, 2023

I tend to agree with you Kim! I have been hard at work trying to find suitable alternatives since sending this one. I have found some. Please let me know your opinion on these:
1:https://www.loosegrowndiamond.com/inventory/?sku=598359449
2:https://www.loosegrowndiamond.com/inventory/?sku=600353618
3:https://www.loosegrowndiamond.com/inventory/?sku=559293799
4:https://www.loosegrowndiamond.com/inventory/?sku=598373982

Thank you again for all your help!

DejaWiz · Oct 22, 2023

See if any of these jump out at you and if LGD would be willing to work with you on price.
Maybe ask to see if they'll put 3-4 on hold so that they can verify availability with their supplier(s).