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Help me be realistic! $5000 budget: RB diamond w/ setting

einna

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Hi there! Been doing a lot of reading on this incredibly helpful forum. Searching for an e-ring and I wanted to sort of start documenting our journey/ask some questions.

The Setting.
I am looking for a setting like on the De Beers Promise Ring:
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Through searching the forums, I found this one from Brian Gavin, but at $3100, it's not going to leave much room in our budget for the center diamond:
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We've also found this one from Blue Nile. Question: What's the consensus on Blue Nile? They don't sell the setting separately so we'd have to go all-in if we go this route, but they do have a great return policy.
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Finally, a local jeweler said she could do one for $1500. I'd say it's a pretty close match, below is the white gold version she had in stock. We don't want to buy the diamond from her, however; having done some research here, I feel like we can get a higher quality diamond elsewhere.
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Where else could I find a platinum setting similar to the DB Promise? I am pretty happy with the setting from the local jeweler, if she'll sell it to me separately.

The Diamond.
Budget is ~$5000 for the entire ring, which is tight because I'm so particular about that setting. Here is what I'm thinking in terms of priority:

Cut - I want it to sparkle beautifully so I think this should be my highest priority. I've seen a huge price jump for diamonds with hearts & arrows, but I really don't care about that, or should I? Instead I'm looking closely at table in the 55-58% range, depth 60-62.3%, crown angle 34-35 degrees, and pavilion angle 40.6-41 degrees.
Clarity - I'll probably never use a loupe outside of a jewelry shop - lol - so I'm perfectly OK with eye clean
Carat - I like the look of 1.0-1.30 ct on my 4.75 size finger
Color - this one I'm not as sure about, we've been browsing in the H-J range and I honestly can't tell the difference... unless they're held right up next to each other

I'd love to hear your thoughts on how I should be prioritizing the above, and especially if I'm looking for the right things in the cut. Thanks in advance!

Also, I've reached out to Mark at Brilliantly Engaged and will be meeting with him next week - excited to hear what he says!
 

ac117

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Re: Help me be realistic! $5000 budget: RB diamond w/ settin

Seems like these from James Allen are similar to what you're looking for. PSers tend to prefer JA over BN here since JA provides stone and light performance images. I'm not sure if JA will sell the setting separately but there are plenty of experts around here that can help you pick out a gorgeous stone from them and you'll end up with a knockout ring :) Good luck!

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-twisted-pave-shank-contemporary-solitaire-item-6859

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-pave-rope-engagement-ring-item-52625

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-pave-twist-engagement-ring-item-8120
 

cinnamonstick

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Re: Help me be realistic! $5000 budget: RB diamond w/ settin

Only speaking specifically about the setting, I prefer the one at your local jeweler bc of the way the diamonds twist over a bit at the top (or is that an optical illusion? ). Pretty setting either way. Is the ct.weight near the same between the online vendors and your local one in the setting? Color of the diamonds the same?

I was looking a few stock diamond settings from a local jeweler. The color of the stones were I - J. Where as, some settings I was considering online, ranged G-H. This may be important to have in mind, depending on what color center stone you end up purchasing. Of course, also depending on the side of sidestones. Just tossing out a bit of info I discovered.

You sound like my husband who was not able to initially notice the difference between diamond colors in the H through J range :) Now he does after my hours of OCDing. Color is really a personal choice. My gut says women are more particular with color. Definitely check with your girlfriend :) GL
 

tyty333

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Re: Help me be realistic! $5000 budget: RB diamond w/ settin

I'll give you some stone options but you'll have to find a setting that is around $1k.

This has a feather you'll have to hide under a prong. Ask if the stone is structurally sound.
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.07-carat-j-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-683933
Have to ask how eye-clean this one is.
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.00-carat-j-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-669293
If you are willing to go to K faint brown...nice size on this one
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.14-carat-k-color-vvs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-684413

Better color or clarity but less than a carat...
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.90-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-493627
 

einna

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Re: Help me be realistic! $5000 budget: RB diamond w/ settin

Thank you all for such helpful replies!

acano117 said:
Seems like these from James Allen are similar to what you're looking for. PSers tend to prefer JA over BN here since JA provides stone and light performance images. I'm not sure if JA will sell the setting separately but there are plenty of experts around here that can help you pick out a gorgeous stone from them and you'll end up with a knockout ring :) Good luck!

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-twisted-pave-shank-contemporary-solitaire-item-6859

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-pave-rope-engagement-ring-item-52625

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-pave-twist-engagement-ring-item-8120

Ahh that explains why I hardly have seen BN links. I like that second setting you linked - thank you! I'm going to wait to see what ERD says on making a custom setting when I meet with them this week!

tyty333 said:
I'll give you some stone options but you'll have to find a setting that is around $1k.

This has a feather you'll have to hide under a prong. Ask if the stone is structurally sound.
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.07-carat-j-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-683933
Have to ask how eye-clean this one is.
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.00-carat-j-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-669293
If you are willing to go to K faint brown...nice size on this one
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.14-carat-k-color-vvs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-684413

Better color or clarity but less than a carat...
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.90-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-493627

Wow THANK YOU tyty! I started this thread so I could post diamonds I find eventually for forum review - but this is incredible! I showed my boyfriend the K diamond and we're both a little obsessed... such a nicely cut diamond. I had recently read this thread - [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/photographic-death-match-f-versus-k.116295/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/photographic-death-match-f-versus-k.116295/[/URL] - which makes me feel really happy. I actually put a hold on this one until after I meet with ERD this week!

cinnamonstick said:
Only speaking specifically about the setting, I prefer the one at your local jeweler bc of the way the diamonds twist over a bit at the top (or is that an optical illusion? ). Pretty setting either way. Is the ct.weight near the same between the online vendors and your local one in the setting? Color of the diamonds the same?

I was looking a few stock diamond settings from a local jeweler. The color of the stones were I - J. Where as, some settings I was considering online, ranged G-H. This may be important to have in mind, depending on what color center stone you end up purchasing. Of course, also depending on the side of sidestones. Just tossing out a bit of info I discovered.

You sound like my husband who was not able to initially notice the difference between diamond colors in the H through J range :) Now he does after my hours of OCDing. Color is really a personal choice. My gut says women are more particular with color. Definitely check with your girlfriend :) GL

I prefer the one at the local jeweler too, but I didn't ask about the ct weight or the color either... that's a really good point that I hadn't considered! Now I'm concerned if we end up with the K diamond above that the side diamonds will make it very obvious. Hmm!
 

einna

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Re: Help me be realistic! $5000 budget: RB diamond w/ settin

When I asked the JA live chat gemologist if they could do an ASET on the K diamond above, they said "This particular diamond is located outside of our NY office, so we would not be able to get imaging on this particular diamond."

I've seen on the forums that they will give you up to 3 -- is that no longer a thing? Should I call instead?

I'm beginning to get really "attached" to this diamond. :D Thanks again in advance!
 

telephone89

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Re: Help me be realistic! $5000 budget: RB diamond w/ settin

That K is really nice! I myself prefer a brown tint to a yellow tint, so I love it :love:

JA still has a terrific return policy - 30 days. So you can buy it, look it over, and see what you think. Make sure to look at it in a variety of lighting situations. If you don't love it, you can send it back and continue your search.
 
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