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#JOTW Finally, my PrinceCut (scissor cut) in its platinum art deco style french cut ruby and diamond halo ring

diamondhoarder

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If the PrinceCut makes you happier, where's the issue? And your suggestion of several small Asschers, ooh, shiver. A band of those under your new ring?!? Whoa.

Husband and wife jeweler team in Neenah, the Slavens, are GIA grads and made each others' wedding rings. Hers is an eternity band of vivid yellow Asschers with white RB top and bottom. I can barely look the woman in the face, I just want to grab her hand and stare at that ring.

I'm terrible for ogling peoples rings as well - its one of life's guilty pleasures :D

There are a number of Asscher bands on this forum on the hands of those with truly exquisite taste. You're in that category. I'm grateful to be here learning from those who have an eye.

Awww you are too kind. "Exquisite taste" would be the generous description, picky and overly-perfectionistic to the point of obsession might be more accurate :lol:
 

diamondhoarder

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I just had a slight panic when I saw this photo so enlarged as it looks like something strange is going on with one of the halo rubies (on the right of the photo). :eek2: Having louped it thoroughly the rubies are still in perfect condition so it must just be reflections in the photo. So I am pleased (and extremely relieved) to confirm that rubies were harmed during this photo shoot :D :lol:

That was meant to say that no rubies were damaged :lol:
 

La2020

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Absolutely stunning photos.. Your unique collection of diamonds is to die for..and this just nailed it. Now I really want such special diamond cutting as well..signz..

Oh my.. My indecent obsession with diamonds.. When will it stop?
 

Dr_Diesel

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I have always been drawn to diamonds with more unusual facet pattern arrangements, and I especially love the "scissor cut" look that some of the branded diamonds that emerged in the last 20 years show. So I have been on the lookout for my perfect scissor cut syle diamond for a good few years. Many of these are very pricey to buy new (crisscuts, Ashoka's to name a couple) and not all of them are excellent examples of their type either.

So I have been scouring the secondary market and looking for the occasional loose diamond that crops up on sites such as BN and JA as well. I have discovered that looking for one of these specialist cuts using the usual PS cut parameters does not work very well, and even great ASET images do not always predict optimal performance (if ASET images are even available). There were various false starts along the way including a Victorian Cut with great facet patterns but a leaky pavilion, and an unbranded scissor cut with a great ASET but light performance that was either all "on" or all "off" and a feather breaching the girdle.

My criteria for this stone were very onerous and, given that I was only fishing in a small pond anyway, got me wondering if I was ever going to find my perfect stone :wall:

It needed to face up white (H + but preferably F), be eye clean, be at least a carat, face up well size-wise for the carat weight, be GIA certified, have excellent contrast patterns to really appreciate the scissor facet pattern, have minimal leakage (dispersed across the stone rather than focussed in one area creating a dull area under the table - my pet peeve :eek-2:!) and finally it needed to knock my socks off in a way that a really well cut generic emerald or radiant could not.

Finally I found this Prince Cut for a steal on ebay, languishing in a clunky, poorly fitting setting, and snapped it up. There was no information like ASET or other light performance data, only the GIA report accompanying the centre diamond. I wasn't a fan of the setting but the Prince Cut just had so much appeal visually based on the vendors photos and videos that I snapped it up.

I believe that some Prince Cuts are still being cut currently, although they do not seem to be widely available. To me they look like a cross between an Ashoka and a Crisscut. Here is how the GIA shows Prince Cuts in their plot diagrams:

1607885543517.jpeg

Here are the specs of my Prince Cut:
1.10 cts F VS2
Table: 74% depth 66.8% Girdle: thick
6.67 x 5.14 x 3.44mm

Here is what it looked like when it arrived:

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Here is the ASET image I took with my own handheld ASET viewer and back-lit tray:

1607885237774.png

It was way too small to fit my finger so I couldn't even wear it whilst I considered how to re-set it. I decided it would be great to be able to re-use the trapezoids from the existing setting since they were F VS2's perfectly matched to the centre diamond.

And this was the result:

1607889328483.png 1607889359036.png

And the story should have ended there except........

Whilst I really loved how the trapezoids complemented the centre diamond, and the clean lines of the platinum setting, I kept finding that it just didnt have the presence on my finger to give me the "wow factor":

1607889555842.png

I started thinking about a halo to maximise finger coverage. I have always loved art deco style coloured stone halos, and decided that the warmth of rubies would contrast nicely with the F colour of the diamond, and that french cut rubies might highlight the elonagted kite shaped facet pattern of the PrinceCut.

So, months later, here is my new ring. I really think the new setting makes it pop :kiss2:

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1607890184719.jpeg 1607890636576.jpeg
1607890679826.jpeg

And here is a video:

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" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

WOWWWWW! Where did you find the perfect French-cut rubies???
 

Dmndsr4evr11

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I have always been drawn to diamonds with more unusual facet pattern arrangements, and I especially love the "scissor cut" look that some of the branded diamonds that emerged in the last 20 years show. So I have been on the lookout for my perfect scissor cut syle diamond for a good few years. Many of these are very pricey to buy new (crisscuts, Ashoka's to name a couple) and not all of them are excellent examples of their type either.

So I have been scouring the secondary market and looking for the occasional loose diamond that crops up on sites such as BN and JA as well. I have discovered that looking for one of these specialist cuts using the usual PS cut parameters does not work very well, and even great ASET images do not always predict optimal performance (if ASET images are even available). There were various false starts along the way including a Victorian Cut with great facet patterns but a leaky pavilion, and an unbranded scissor cut with a great ASET but light performance that was either all "on" or all "off" and a feather breaching the girdle.

My criteria for this stone were very onerous and, given that I was only fishing in a small pond anyway, got me wondering if I was ever going to find my perfect stone :wall:

It needed to face up white (H + but preferably F), be eye clean, be at least a carat, face up well size-wise for the carat weight, be GIA certified, have excellent contrast patterns to really appreciate the scissor facet pattern, have minimal leakage (dispersed across the stone rather than focussed in one area creating a dull area under the table - my pet peeve :eek-2:!) and finally it needed to knock my socks off in a way that a really well cut generic emerald or radiant could not.

Finally I found this Prince Cut for a steal on ebay, languishing in a clunky, poorly fitting setting, and snapped it up. There was no information like ASET or other light performance data, only the GIA report accompanying the centre diamond. I wasn't a fan of the setting but the Prince Cut just had so much appeal visually based on the vendors photos and videos that I snapped it up.

I believe that some Prince Cuts are still being cut currently, although they do not seem to be widely available. To me they look like a cross between an Ashoka and a Crisscut. Here is how the GIA shows Prince Cuts in their plot diagrams:

1607885543517.jpeg

Here are the specs of my Prince Cut:
1.10 cts F VS2
Table: 74% depth 66.8% Girdle: thick
6.67 x 5.14 x 3.44mm

Here is what it looked like when it arrived:

1607884858826.png 1607884891989.png

Here is the ASET image I took with my own handheld ASET viewer and back-lit tray:

1607885237774.png

It was way too small to fit my finger so I couldn't even wear it whilst I considered how to re-set it. I decided it would be great to be able to re-use the trapezoids from the existing setting since they were F VS2's perfectly matched to the centre diamond.

And this was the result:

1607889328483.png 1607889359036.png

And the story should have ended there except........

Whilst I really loved how the trapezoids complemented the centre diamond, and the clean lines of the platinum setting, I kept finding that it just didnt have the presence on my finger to give me the "wow factor":

1607889555842.png

I started thinking about a halo to maximise finger coverage. I have always loved art deco style coloured stone halos, and decided that the warmth of rubies would contrast nicely with the F colour of the diamond, and that french cut rubies might highlight the elonagted kite shaped facet pattern of the PrinceCut.

So, months later, here is my new ring. I really think the new setting makes it pop :kiss2:

1607889956458.jpeg 1607890137955.jpeg

1607890184719.jpeg 1607890636576.jpeg
1607890679826.jpeg

And here is a video:

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" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Beautiful!!
 

diamondhoarder

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What did you search on ebay to find the original ring?

I think it popped up under a search for crisscuts, but it may also have come from a general search of used diamond rings between certain price points. I have found PrinceCuts in the past listed as emerald cuts, they are rarely listed as PrinceCuts, I don't know why. They are cut by Avi Paz in Israel and you can buy directly from them, you can contact them via their website., I think they sell a jewellery range under the brand New Century Creations. They have also been on Etsy at various times.

Jewels by Grace did have a PrinceCut ring listed recently, could also be worth checking her website.
 

Ring_obsessed

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I think it popped up under a search for crisscuts, but it may also have come from a general search of used diamond rings between certain price points. I have found PrinceCuts in the past listed as emerald cuts, they are rarely listed as PrinceCuts, I don't know why. They are cut by Avi Paz in Israel and you can buy directly from them, you can contact them via their website., I think they sell a jewellery range under the brand New Century Creations. They have also been on Etsy at various times.

Jewels by Grace did have a PrinceCut ring listed recently, could also be worth checking her website.

Thanks so much for the info. Your diamond is literally my dream stone!
 

ellekay

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Oh my! I've never even heard of scissor cuts before; this is awesome. I absolutely love the unique cut and how the cut of the rubies complements the stone so well. Congrats on a lovely ring!
 

Catmom

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Absolutely love it in the ruby halo. Gorgeous!!!
 

diamondhoarder

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Oh my! I've never even heard of scissor cuts before; this is awesome. I absolutely love the unique cut and how the cut of the rubies complements the stone so well. Congrats on a lovely ring!

Thanks, you are very kind.

Absolutely love it in the ruby halo. Gorgeous!!!
Thanks. I love the ruby halo even more than I thought it would.
 
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