Female Mccain''s VP pick

[angel_nieves]

Thanks
I have another 10-20 links about the worries I have about her. I hate going into something ill-informed.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I just wanted to say that I think Sarah Palin was a brilliant choice! She comes from a middle class background. Her approval rating in her home state is around 75-80%! Abuse of power??? Um, I think she has turned in those in her own party for ethics violations! She has integrity and a lot of class as far as I am concerned.

If I had to choose whether to support terrorists by sending them money for oil, or drilling in Alaska where WE HAVE ENOUGH OIL FOR OUR NEEDS...you can better believe I support Sarah Palin''s desire to drill for oil there!

I am not wild about McCain and wasn''t inclined to vote for him...but I really like what I see of Sarah Palin and I will likely vote for her!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 8/29/2008 8:53:58 PM
Author: Kaleigh
I asked my Husband what he thought of Mccain''s choice, he said Obama just won the election. I know what I thought about it but wanted to hear what he had to say. He''s away, so this was over the phone. He said, he chose her to get the Hillary votes. I said bingo, I agree. I have to learn more about Palin. My dad was head of the Republican committee in Philadelphia years ago, he thinks his choice is spot on. I dunno. I have to find out who she is and what she stands for, but am thinking Mccain, is toast. Hubby and kids are voting for Mccain. I am a republican, but will most likely vote for Obama. It''s going to be very interesting for sure!!!

I can''t see that Hillary supporters could POSSIBLY vote for McCain/Palin. I don''t think that is the primary strategy. The primary strategy is to get someone who is hopefully clean and fresh and not a Washington insider. And most important of all, she attracts the conservatives that were not so enamoured with McCain.

I think the opposite of your hubby, Lisa. I think McCain didn''t have any chance before today. This choice will keep him in the running.

 

[icekid]

Date: 8/29/2008 11:04:44 AM
Author: MoonWater

Yeah I understand that, but I think he really must be counting on those pissed off Hillary supporters. That's quite a bet to make. I hope I like her. And everyone can be pissy at me here but I'm going to say it: That way, when McCain dies in office (assuming he's elected), we can have a great female President. I'm on vacation starting tomorrow without internet!!

I wish I could spend the week researching her.

ha, is it sad that I am thinking this may be our best option???

eta- I am too tired to do any reading on her yet, but just glancing through this thread and noting that she may be ultra conservative is already a bit off-putting. We shall see though!

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 8/29/2008 9:12:19 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Date: 8/29/2008 8:53:58 PM
Author: Kaleigh
I asked my Husband what he thought of Mccain's choice, he said Obama just won the election. I know what I thought about it but wanted to hear what he had to say. He's away, so this was over the phone. He said, he chose her to get the Hillary votes. I said bingo, I agree. I have to learn more about Palin. My dad was head of the Republican committee in Philadelphia years ago, he thinks his choice is spot on. I dunno. I have to find out who she is and what she stands for, but am thinking Mccain, is toast. Hubby and kids are voting for Mccain. I am a republican, but will most likely vote for Obama. It's going to be very interesting for sure!!!

I can't see that Hillary supporters could POSSIBLY vote for McCain/Palin. I don't think that is the primary strategy. The primary strategy is to get someone who is hopefully clean and fresh and not a Washington insider. And most important of all, she attracts the conservatives that were not so enamoured with McCain.

I think the opposite of your hubby, Lisa. I think McCain didn't have any chance before today. This choice will keep him in the running.

I don't think so either, but many Hillary suporter's said they would vote for Mccain once she was out of the race. She had 18 million votes, and Mccain is hoping for 5 million of them in November. I look forward to the debates.

 

[iluvcarats]

Date: 8/29/2008 7:47:59 PM
Author: Macie


I can honestly say if McCain had not chose her as a running mate I might have voted for him. I honestly can not stand Sarah Palin politics.

The top 11 things you should know about Sarah Palin:



1) She is presently under investigation in Alaska for abuse of power

2) She strongly supports big oil (her husband even works for an oil company)

3) She stands for everything that Hillary Clinton stood against

4) She is adamantly opposed to reproductive rights for women

5) She has no federal or international experience & has only been mayor of a small town and a beauty queen!

6) She believes global warming is a farce and is opposed to listing the polar bear as an endangered species

7) She believes creationism should be taught in public schools

She supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and anywhere else big oil wants

9) She supports Pebble Mine which will destroy the richest salmon run in the world

10) She supports aerial shooting of bears and wolves in Alaska

11) She is pro-war

This is all very frightening to me.
I guess higher taxes is a small price to pay as compared to the alternative.

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 8/29/2008 9:00:32 PM
Author: Macie
Instead of beer you want to share peanut butter and jelly cupcakes that I just finished frosting?

omg, are you serious? there is a such thing as peanut butter and jelly cupcakes?

I want some!

Thanks for posting the links, unfortunately FI decided we should dive to the beach tonight instead of tomorrow morning so my little internet fun while packing has been shortened. Darn that man, I still had laundry to do!

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 8/29/2008 9:00:45 PM
Author: miraclesrule
Moon: Down to my last glass of wine... *cheers*

Ooh, is it red wine? Share. Hmm...I wonder how long I can get away with posting before FI ask me what''s taking so long.

 

[miraclesrule]

Oh, it''s white wine. And I think I have only one sip left, so I am just staring at it so it lasts longer.

It''s so nice to hear you call him your FI!!!

 

[angel_nieves]

Date: 8/29/2008 9:40:52 PM
Author: MoonWater

Date: 8/29/2008 9:00:32 PM
Author: Macie
Instead of beer you want to share peanut butter and jelly cupcakes that I just finished frosting?

omg, are you serious? there is a such thing as peanut butter and jelly cupcakes?

I want some!

Thanks for posting the links, unfortunately FI decided we should dive to the beach tonight instead of tomorrow morning so my little internet fun while packing has been shortened. Darn that man, I still had laundry to do!

Yes there is and darn yummy. I took some pics and will post them on the cupcake thread in the family and home area of PS.

 

[Krissie]

Date: 8/29/2008 9:50:04 PM
Author: miraclesrule
Oh, it''s white wine. And I think I have only one sip left, so I am just staring at it so it lasts longer.

It''s so nice to hear you call him your FI!!!

Miracles, I''m picking up where you left off, with my own glass of red.

Watching Larry King - they just showed video of her shooting an assault rifle. Dukakis anyone?

They''re interviewing her friends/associates in Alaska.

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 8/29/2008 9:26:05 PM
Author: icekid

Date: 8/29/2008 11:04:44 AM

Author: MoonWater


Yeah I understand that, but I think he really must be counting on those pissed off Hillary supporters. That''s quite a bet to make. I hope I like her. And everyone can be pissy at me here but I''m going to say it: That way, when McCain dies in office (assuming he''s elected), we can have a great female President. I''m on vacation starting tomorrow without internet!!

I wish I could spend the week researching her.

ha, is it sad that I am thinking this may be our best option???

eta- I am too tired to do any reading on her yet, but just glancing through this thread and noting that she may be ultra conservative is already a bit off-putting. We shall see though!

This is just going to be one heck of an election season.

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 8/29/2008 9:50:04 PM
Author: miraclesrule
Oh, it''s white wine. And I think I have only one sip left, so I am just staring at it so it lasts longer.

It''s so nice to hear you call him your FI!!!

I know, I love it hehehe. I can''t wait to say hubby!!

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 8/29/2008 9:52:35 PM
Author: Macie

Date: 8/29/2008 9:40:52 PM

Author: MoonWater

Date: 8/29/2008 9:00:32 PM

Author: Macie

Instead of beer you want to share peanut butter and jelly cupcakes that I just finished frosting?

omg, are you serious? there is a such thing as peanut butter and jelly cupcakes?

I want some!


Thanks for posting the links, unfortunately FI decided we should dive to the beach tonight instead of tomorrow morning so my little internet fun while packing has been shortened. Darn that man, I still had laundry to do!

Yes there is and darn yummy. I took some pics and will post them on the cupcake thread in the family and home area of PS.

There''s a cupcake thread? Man I really need to explore when I come back lol. Gosh I''m hungry! I haven''t had any dinner

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 8/29/2008 9:54:11 PM
Author: Krissie

Date: 8/29/2008 9:50:04 PM

Author: miraclesrule

Oh, it''s white wine. And I think I have only one sip left, so I am just staring at it so it lasts longer.

It''s so nice to hear you call him your FI!!!

Miracles, I''m picking up where you left off, with my own glass of red.


Watching Larry King - they just showed video of her shooting an assault rifle. Dukakis anyone?


They''re interviewing her friends/associates in Alaska.

We were watching that too, now we''re watching Fox. People are singing her praises. And of course, bringing up the disappointment of Hillary supporters.

 

[Krissie]

Date: 8/29/2008 10:18:00 PM
Author: MoonWater

Date: 8/29/2008 9:54:11 PM
Author: Krissie

Date: 8/29/2008 9:50:04 PM

Author: miraclesrule

Oh, it''s white wine. And I think I have only one sip left, so I am just staring at it so it lasts longer.

It''s so nice to hear you call him your FI!!!

Miracles, I''m picking up where you left off, with my own glass of red.


Watching Larry King - they just showed video of her shooting an assault rifle. Dukakis anyone?


They''re interviewing her friends/associates in Alaska.

We were watching that too, now we''re watching Fox. People are singing her praises. And of course, bringing up the disappointment of Hillary supporters.

Did you see the clip where she said that she stood up to Big Oil? D just said, "What did she do - withhold s*x from her husband?" (her hubby works for BP)

Witty guy. lol!

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 8/29/2008 10:21:08 PM
Author: Krissie

Date: 8/29/2008 10:18:00 PM

Author: MoonWater

Date: 8/29/2008 9:54:11 PM

Author: Krissie

Date: 8/29/2008 9:50:04 PM


Author: miraclesrule


Oh, it''s white wine. And I think I have only one sip left, so I am just staring at it so it lasts longer.

It''s so nice to hear you call him your FI!!!

Miracles, I''m picking up where you left off, with my own glass of red.



Watching Larry King - they just showed video of her shooting an assault rifle. Dukakis anyone?



They''re interviewing her friends/associates in Alaska.

We were watching that too, now we''re watching Fox. People are singing her praises. And of course, bringing up the disappointment of Hillary supporters.

Did you see the clip where she said that she stood up to Big Oil? D just said, ''What did she do - withhold s*x from her husband?'' (her hubby works for BP)


Witty guy. lol!

LMAO!! omg...I feel horrible for laughing at that...and a bit more for repeating it to FI!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 8/29/2008 9:37:25 PM
Author: iluvcarats

Date: 8/29/2008 7:47:59 PM
Author: Macie



I can honestly say if McCain had not chose her as a running mate I might have voted for him. I honestly can not stand Sarah Palin politics.

The top 11 things you should know about Sarah Palin:



1) She is presently under investigation in Alaska for abuse of power

2) She strongly supports big oil (her husband even works for an oil company)

3) She stands for everything that Hillary Clinton stood against

4) She is adamantly opposed to reproductive rights for women

5) She has no federal or international experience & has only been mayor of a small town and a beauty queen!

6) She believes global warming is a farce and is opposed to listing the polar bear as an endangered species

7) She believes creationism should be taught in public schools

She supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and anywhere else big oil wants

9) She supports Pebble Mine which will destroy the richest salmon run in the world

10) She supports aerial shooting of bears and wolves in Alaska

11) She is pro-war

This is all very frightening to me.
I guess higher taxes is a small price to pay as compared to the alternative.

What is more frightening to me is the inaccuracy of some of the statements. #5 is an example....only a mayor and beauty queen? I believe she is the governor of the state of Alaska! And um, her hubby is a blue collar worker in the oil fields, not exactly a big oil man! I imagine quite a number of Alaskans are employed in some aspect of the oil industry.

 

[MoonWater]

Have a great holiday weekend everyone. I''m off!

 

[iluvcarats]

Date: 8/29/2008 10:25:02 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Date: 8/29/2008 9:37:25 PM

Author: iluvcarats

Date: 8/29/2008 7:47:59 PM

Author: Macie





I can honestly say if McCain had not chose her as a running mate I might have voted for him. I honestly can not stand Sarah Palin politics.


The top 11 things you should know about Sarah Palin:




1) She is presently under investigation in Alaska for abuse of power

2) She strongly supports big oil (her husband even works for an oil company)

3) She stands for everything that Hillary Clinton stood against

4) She is adamantly opposed to reproductive rights for women

5) She has no federal or international experience & has only been mayor of a small town and a beauty queen!

6) She believes global warming is a farce and is opposed to listing the polar bear as an endangered species

7) She believes creationism should be taught in public schools

She supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and anywhere else big oil wants

9) She supports Pebble Mine which will destroy the richest salmon run in the world

10) She supports aerial shooting of bears and wolves in Alaska

11) She is pro-war

This is all very frightening to me.

I guess higher taxes is a small price to pay as compared to the alternative.

What is more frightening to me is the inaccuracy of some of the statements. #5 is an example....only a mayor and beauty queen? I believe she is the governor of the state of Alaska! And um, her hubby is a blue collar worker in the oil fields, not exactly a big oil man! I imagine quite a number of Alaskans are employed in some aspect of the oil industry.

I could care less that she was a beauty queen, and I can get over her husband''s job.
I am concerned with what I highlighted, particularly teaching creationism in school.
I believe that freedom is the distance between church and state, and I am willing to pay more tax $ in order to preserve it. And I also believe that we should take care of all the *born* babies (sick, hungry,abused, and in foster care) before protecting the unborn and yet to be conceived.

 

[Anna0499]

Date: 8/29/2008 7:47:59 PM
Author: Macie



I can honestly say if McCain had not chose her as a running mate I might have voted for him. I honestly can not stand Sarah Palin politics.
The top 11 things you should know about Sarah Palin:

1) She is presently under investigation in Alaska for abuse of powerShe has welcomed questions into these allegations, making subpoenas unnecessary...I find that to be a good sign but will be interested in the outcome. I know that her ex-brother-in-law was a state trooper who tasered an 11 year old boy (he requested it, but talk about abuse of power!) and threatened to kill her dad. Chances are he's not that great of a trooper...

2) She strongly supports big oil (her husband even works for an oil company)

Her husband works for BP, but no one has stated in what capacity besides "in an oil field." I would like more information if anyone has it. The site you cited says that he works as a fisherman during the summers, so I doubt he is on the executive board. Many people work for BP in different capacities; it doesn't automatically mean that they strongly supports big oil. The site also says that she helped to pass a tax increase on oil profits...that doesn't exactly mean "strongly supports" to me, either. I am actually not opposed to drilling in our own country; we pay other countries for drilling in theirs, so why not our own?

3) She stands for everything that Hillary Clinton stood against

Agreed...and a reason why I like her and I don't think it was a ploy for the staunch Hillary supporters (i.e. the ones who were voting for her for a reason other than her gender).

4) She is adamantly opposed to reproductive rights for women

If you only include abortion in your definition of "reproductive rights." I haven't read anything about her position on birth control, etc., so more information here would also be appreciated. As for her pro-life stance, I have no problem with it and I think it actually strengthens McCain's stance among most Republicans (and a welcome contrast to Biden's views on the matter).

5) She has no federal or international experience & has only been mayor of a small town and a beauty queen!

She is also the governor, of course.

6) She believes global warming is a farce and is opposed to listing the polar bear as an endangered species

Echo joflier's post.

7) She believes creationism should be taught in public schools

Also, no problem for me. I believe children should be taught ALL theories of how we came to be and creationism can be taught in a SCIENTIFIC, as opposed to religious, way. Most children in the U.S. have heard of "God" in one form or another by the time they are in school and I think creationism can be taught but still leave the existence of "God" up to the students, much like they feel free to believe in evolution or not. She supports the teaching of BOTH theories, not just creationism.

She supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and anywhere else big oil wants

Echo diamondfan's post.

9) She supports Pebble Mine which will destroy the richest salmon run in the world

I don't know enough about Pebble Mine to evalute the arguments from both sides, as this statement is speculation which has been refuted by some claiming that if the mine is regulated as planned it will have minimal impacts on the fisheries.

10) She supports aerial shooting of bears and wolves in Alaska

Don't know much about this...will need more research...so far I have found this to be the "other side of the story": Palin "has defended the aerial shooting as necessary to build up moose and caribou herds in parts of Alaska to help improve local food supplies." Wall Street Journal Profile



11) She is pro-war

Again, seems like rhetoric from the website of Palin haters, but I would love to hear the reasons for these statements, as the website where you found this list did not list the reasons.

I actually saw the website you copied and pasted your 11 "facts" from and it is far from a reputable source of information, as it is just a personal website run by "grizzly" individuals who clearly hate Sarah Palin - hardly an independent news source. You should probably paste the link to that website, however, instead of citing the different ones you posted, since you copied/pasted it verbatim.

 

[luckystar112]

Date: 8/29/2008 11:45:18 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
I actually saw the website you copied and pasted your 11 ''facts'' from and it is far from a reputable source of information, as it is just a personal website run by ''grizzly'' individuals who clearly hate Sarah Palin - hardly an independent news source. You should probably paste the link to that website, however, instead of citing the different ones you posted, since you copied/pasted it verbatim.

 

[innerkitten]

On Larry King someone said McCain had only met her once.

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Back in late spring, her name was thrown out by a few people as a potential running mate for McCain.

I''m not a huge McCain fan (okay, I''m not a fan), but I think Palin is a good choice. She''s always stuck to her guns, never "sold out" to gain power or move up the ranks, she''s well educated, admits to her shortcomings (because we all have them, might as well not fake it and eat it later, you know), definitely has charisma (which is sadly lacking in the McCainster), and not only states things as a political figure, but lives by them.

I''m pretty excited. Not sure if it''ll work out that she''ll make into office, but I''ve got more interest in the election at this point than I have had since Ron Paul pulled out.

I''ve not read a ton about her, but when I heard her mentioned back in I think it was April or early May, I thought I''d look her up. Not as much information as I''d like to read up on, but what I''ve seen, I''ve liked.

Was it a Hillary ploy? Perhaps (okay, for sure), but she definitely wasn''t chosen *simply* for being a woman. There are MANY women out there; she just happens to be one who has some experience, knows what she knows well, stands by it, lives it, has a passion for what she''s doing, has a wealth of interest and knowledge in getting the US set up to provide fuel again to ourselves, and she''s appealing to the people.

The choice in picking Palin will sort of kill off the continous blows McCain makes re: Obama lacking years and years of experience. While she''s had 13 years of elected experience, only a couple of those years have been in an executive area. But golly, she''s made some changes in that short amount of time. And to have such a high approval rating from the people; that''s impressive in and of itself.

This makes the race way more interesting and I kind of have more hope now. McCain alone wasn''t really looking like someone I''d want to be president. Makes me wish the VP was a more influential position than it''s been in the past....

 

[innerkitten]

Just because they were copied and pasted doesn''t mean they aren''t true.

 

[Anna0499]

Date: 8/30/2008 12:41:39 AM
Author: innerkitten
Just because they were copied and pasted doesn't mean they aren't true.

Nowhere in my post did I say they weren't true...I said it was from a website run by individuals who hate Sarah Palin and the OP miscited her sources. The website quoted actually doesn't provide much information about its sources for their list, so who knows if they are true or not. I simply commented on my own opinions on Palin's viewpoints and the "other side of the story" gathered from my own research. I encourage responsible reporting and citing of sources to ensure an accurate and open dialogue here. The post as written presented the information as unbiased facts, which they are not.

 

[diamondfan]

Macie, her son is enlisted and her hubby is in the oil field, not high up at all. I am not sure if anyone is pro war, but some see it as a necessary evil. Also hubby is not an executive making loads of money...he is more blue collar than upper crust from what I see.

I do not like creationism being taught in school but I know some people really believe in it. I do not, so I cannot say.

Also, really I am not sure how she stacks up. I am pro choice and not conservative socially so it is a bit tough for me, yes she is a woman but so what? I would not vote for her because of her gender.

She does have a high approval rating but Alaska, which I know little about admittedly, seems to have more of a frontier mentality. It is also very far removed from Washington, which could be good or bad depending on how you look at it.

 

[HollyS]

From what I saw of her interviews on TV today, both past interviews and current, I actually like what I see. She isn''t "pro-war"; no one is. That''s a ridiculous statement, really. Let''s be clear: no one is for taxes, for unemployment, for the lack of health benefits, for environmental pollution, etc. Being Republican does not make us the spawn of Satan, okay? If you look close enough, taking off the blinders that prevent real inspection, you''ll find that we aren''t all that different. Our solutions might be polar opposites, but the objectives are often the same.

 

[HollyS]

Date: 8/29/2008 9:06:24 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
I just wanted to say that I think Sarah Palin was a brilliant choice! She comes from a middle class background. Her approval rating in her home state is around 75-80%! Abuse of power??? Um, I think she has turned in those in her own party for ethics violations! She has integrity and a lot of class as far as I am concerned.

If I had to choose whether to support terrorists by sending them money for oil, or drilling in Alaska where WE HAVE ENOUGH OIL FOR OUR NEEDS...you can better believe I support Sarah Palin''s desire to drill for oil there!

I am not wild about McCain and wasn''t inclined to vote for him...but I really like what I see of Sarah Palin and I will likely vote for her!

I have to say, I think he made a wise choice. It was unexpected; I think the Dems were not at all prepared for this; and it certainly makes things a bit more interesting going into the last few months of what has seemed ''an eternity'' of an election year.

 

[innerkitten]

Macie, It says here that the polar bear population in Alaska remains stable ( not that it''s the highest it''s ever been) but that could change depending on climate and humans etc. I have no idea what it''s like in other areas.
http://alaska.fws.gov/fisheries/mmm/polarbear/pbmain.htm

There is no way that drilling wouldn''t have an impact on the wildlife in the area.