Duchess of Sussex
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Haha, me too! I loved them! Their names were on plaques beside each stall. I think I saw "Sir John" and "George"HI:
Sorry but the black horse in the background/stable photobombed Harry. Once I saw the (horses) teeth, I didn't see or hear anything else
cheers--Sharon
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He is so adorable..I watched the clip on the Today Show this morning...Here he is, I’m suggesting Alexander or Nicholas
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Oooh, bit too Russian, maybe?Here he is, I’m suggesting Alexander or Nicholas
I like Arthur for some reason, although a modern, new name would be lovely. Good looking baby, anyway!
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Really cute baby and I loved how normally and informal they were compared to poor Kate who is expected to parade on the steps of the hospital for a sea of media hours after giving birth. I really feel sorry for them because of the media/public expectations on these wonderful young women in times like this.
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Yeah, Archie..... Any clues where it might come from?
I think I read some article that Prince George calls himself that as a nickname? Although the "source" is the Sun, though... lol
https://www.thecut.com/2019/01/prince-george-cambridge-name-archie-report.html
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I too am disappointed in Archie - just brings to mind the comic books and Riverdale!!
I was hoping for James Spencer, however, I got to name my kids what I wanted and they certainly have the right to do the same!
I was hoping for James Spencer, however, I got to name my kids what I wanted and they certainly have the right to do the same!
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I'm 100% with you regarding the ridiculous expectations.
The following is just a rant and not directed at you at all, @arkieb1 or you, @CareBear...
I was much better physically three hours after giving birth each time than on day two and three, when the hormones have worn off and sore muscles came on top of the immediate pain. I would have HATED to parade in heels and I can see that walking is kinda hard for her...
Of course anyone who's given birth (and sensible other people can imagine) knows that she's pampered otherwise etc etc, but I hate the impact this all has on normal women. People in gerneral and the women themselves think they SHOULD be able to parade in WHITE on killer heels on day two after giving birth. REALITY CHECK: you'll be sore, sleep deprived and you'll wear a surfboard size pad. And you should pamper yourself and bond with your baby... It's not a contest for of "who can pretend nothing ever happened " the fastest. Your pelvic floor will thank you later.
Rant over. Sorry. but this really ticks me off (forgive me, I'm pregnant with no. 6!!). Don't even get me started on the "after baby body"-shaming
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Funny how we associate names with certain things, there were a whole list of them we couldn’t name either of our kids for various reasons!
Archie has been a commonly used name in Scotland in the past, short for Archibald. A lot of these old names are coming back into fashion, my grandfather was Alfie, for example, which is one of them.
Archie has been a commonly used name in Scotland in the past, short for Archibald. A lot of these old names are coming back into fashion, my grandfather was Alfie, for example, which is one of them.
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Agree that Archie is bad. Reminded me of Archie Bunker, but Harry wouldn't have that association, not being American. Still, I'm surprised that Meghan liked it.
I am a big fan of all the traditional royal male names: Albert, Edward, Phillip, Stephen, Henry, Arthur, James, Charles, Anthony, etc. Archie doesn't have the same ring to it.
I am a big fan of all the traditional royal male names: Albert, Edward, Phillip, Stephen, Henry, Arthur, James, Charles, Anthony, etc. Archie doesn't have the same ring to it.
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The interesting aspect to the name, in my opinion, is that it has no royal antecedent. I believe that prior to this, all names of the Queen's grandchildren had to be names that had been used previously in the Royal Family. I may not be up to date and some other modern royal(s) may have been able to use a name without a royal antecedent before Prince Harry did, but it would be a relatively new occurrence. The Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson wanted to name a daughter "Annabelle" and the Queen refused her consent. She gave them a list of approved name for princesses from which they chose "Beatrix" and "Eugenie".
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KaeKae wrote:
"I hadn't read that about Andrew and Sarah choosing a name off a list from the queen.
I did recently (like, in the last two days) read that both Eugenie and Zara are names that hadn't been used before."
Both the names "Beatrix" and "Eugenie" were on the approved list because they had royal antecedents. Here is the history of the name "Eugenie". Princess Eugenie's full name is: Eugenie Victoria Helena.
Eugenie
Her first name pays homage to Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg, the granddaughter of Queen Victoria and the daughter of Princess Beatrice of the United Kingdom. She later became the Queen of Spain after marrying King Alfonso XIII.
Victoria Eugenie, Queen of Spain married Alfonso XIII, King of Spain in 1906.
This first name stunned the public when the Duke and Duchess of York announced it on March 30, 1990. Bookmakers William Hill told the Los Angeles Times that they had taken thousands of bets but not a single one for Eugenie.
It's actually pretty fitting when you consider that her older sister is named after Princess Beatrice. Eugenie itself also means "nobility" and "excellence" as the French derivative of the ancient Greek word "Eugenia."
The Duke and Duchess of York with their newborn daughter Princess Eugenie on March 30, 1990.
Victoria and Helena
The middle names also have Victorian-era ties. Victoria of course honors the beloved sovereign herself. The name actually means "victory" in Latin.
Her second middle name is for Princess Helena of the United Kingdom, Victoria's third daughter. (Queen Victoria had nine children with Prince Albert, so there are plenty of monikers to choose from!) Helena is Greek for "light" or "bright."
"I hadn't read that about Andrew and Sarah choosing a name off a list from the queen.
I did recently (like, in the last two days) read that both Eugenie and Zara are names that hadn't been used before."
Both the names "Beatrix" and "Eugenie" were on the approved list because they had royal antecedents. Here is the history of the name "Eugenie". Princess Eugenie's full name is: Eugenie Victoria Helena.
Eugenie
Her first name pays homage to Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg, the granddaughter of Queen Victoria and the daughter of Princess Beatrice of the United Kingdom. She later became the Queen of Spain after marrying King Alfonso XIII.
Victoria Eugenie, Queen of Spain married Alfonso XIII, King of Spain in 1906.
This first name stunned the public when the Duke and Duchess of York announced it on March 30, 1990. Bookmakers William Hill told the Los Angeles Times that they had taken thousands of bets but not a single one for Eugenie.
It's actually pretty fitting when you consider that her older sister is named after Princess Beatrice. Eugenie itself also means "nobility" and "excellence" as the French derivative of the ancient Greek word "Eugenia."
The Duke and Duchess of York with their newborn daughter Princess Eugenie on March 30, 1990.
Victoria and Helena
The middle names also have Victorian-era ties. Victoria of course honors the beloved sovereign herself. The name actually means "victory" in Latin.
Her second middle name is for Princess Helena of the United Kingdom, Victoria's third daughter. (Queen Victoria had nine children with Prince Albert, so there are plenty of monikers to choose from!) Helena is Greek for "light" or "bright."
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They look so happy, and I am very happy for them!
(There are at least 500 names I'd probably put ahead of Archie. Maybe more.)
(There are at least 500 names I'd probably put ahead of Archie. Maybe more.)
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Thank you for all that information! It's really interesting.
On another note, I've come to love the name Eugenie. I had no idea how it was pronounced (I thought you-GEE-ee, and since I had an uncle Eugene, I get that makes sense.) But it's YOU-jen-ee. I learned that on the Today show right before Princess Eugenie was married. I find it a beautiful name.
Thank you for all that information! It's really interesting.
On another note, I've come to love the name Eugenie. I had no idea how it was pronounced (I thought you-GEE-ee, and since I had an uncle Eugene, I get that makes sense.) But it's YOU-jen-ee. I learned that on the Today show right before Princess Eugenie was married. I find it a beautiful name.
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funny !
That's the first thing i thlught of too !!
but i remember not liking the names William and Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie and they all seemed to have grown into their names
and i had never heard of a Zara before - not even a dog's or horse's nane
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and I've been saying Meghan all wrong !
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I have a nephew called Archie so I'm a wee bit biased... I love the name!
It's definitely not what we were expecting but Meghan has always bucked the trend. I bet she is PISSED that he hasn't been given a HRH title though....
It's definitely not what we were expecting but Meghan has always bucked the trend. I bet she is PISSED that he hasn't been given a HRH title though....
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Gliderposs speculated that the Duchess of Sussex must be upset that her son was not granted the HRH title.
I am not so sure. If Prince Charles lives longer than the Queen, the Sussex children will become princes and princesses (if there are any girls) and will get the HRH designation. Meghan knows this.
The only way they will not receive it is if Prince Charles (The Prince of Wales) predeceases his mother, the Queen) and never becomes King. If Prince Harry is never the son of the King, his children can only become princes/princesses or be granted HRH status by the monarch.
I am not so sure. If Prince Charles lives longer than the Queen, the Sussex children will become princes and princesses (if there are any girls) and will get the HRH designation. Meghan knows this.
The only way they will not receive it is if Prince Charles (The Prince of Wales) predeceases his mother, the Queen) and never becomes King. If Prince Harry is never the son of the King, his children can only become princes/princesses or be granted HRH status by the monarch.
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For me Archibald would've been royal (yet a little eccentric). Archie is an abbreviation to me, a nickname and thus doesn't sound really royal to me. As usual, just my personal feeling and I only imagine a little boy with that name... A 75 y/o Archie seems odd to me. If you want to call your kid Archie, you could still officially go for the full version...
But maybe Harry has issues with being called and known Harry with "Henry" on his birth certificate ??
But maybe Harry has issues with being called and known Harry with "Henry" on his birth certificate ??
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