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ItsMainelyYou

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MamaBear

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WOW!!! That is beautiful!
 

Mrsz1ppy

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Annnnnnd we are back to the classic blue! New to me art nouveau vertical three stone
2.4ct unheated Burmese with two OMCs:D
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Wowza! Love that electric blue and the mounting is to die for gorgeous!
 

ItsMainelyYou

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Annnnnnd we are back to the classic blue! New to me art nouveau vertical three stone
2.4ct unheated Burmese with two OMCs:D
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What do I want? ALL of 'em, Katie!
880976
 

Begonia

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Annnnnnd we are back to the classic blue! New to me art nouveau vertical three stone
2.4ct unheated Burmese with two OMCs:D
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More pics???
 

Ren

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Back with a sneak peek of Alisa in her dress :)
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This piece is absolutely stunning. I’ve been lurking for years and came out of hiding to ask if you wouldn’t mind messaging me who set Alisa for you?
 

cloud_less

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This piece is absolutely stunning. I’ve been lurking for years and came out of hiding to ask if you wouldn’t mind messaging me who set Alisa for you?

Thank you! It's from Northway Studio! She doesn't set outside stone anymore though.
 

cloud_less

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This is interesting... I was shown an unheated sapphire with an AGL report from 2016 saying "The country of origin for this stone is currently not determinable". First time I've seen this. Any thoughts???

The color:
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Thoughts on the color as well? Sorry I need to crop out the rest of the pic as I'm still considering the purchase.
 
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Mrsz1ppy

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This is interesting... I was shown an unheated sapphire with an AGL report from 2016 saying "The country of origin for this stone is currently not determinable". First time I've seen this. Any thoughts???

The color:
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Thoughts on the color as well? Sorry I need to crop out the rest of the pic as I'm still considering the purchase.

I got that recently on a stone the vendor said was from Ceylon.
 

cloud_less

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I got that recently on a stone the vendor said was from Ceylon.

Out of curiosity, do you plan to get it tested at a different lab? Did AGL refund the fee for the origin testing?
 

Mrsz1ppy

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Out of curiosity, do you plan to get it tested at a different lab? Did AGL refund the fee for the origin testing?

Excellent questions! The stone was sold to me as an unheated pad from Ceylon/Sri Lanka. I will not retest because it failed in 3 areas that were important to me—treatment, color and origin. Plus, I believe the adage, GIA reports are for sellers; AGL is for buyers. No point in retesting because I just want a refund! No, I do not expect AGL to refund me—haven’t asked! Just considered they did the tests and I want their unbiased opinion. They would have an incentive to state an origin if they were financially penalized for not. ‘pad’ sapphire.png
 

cloud_less

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Excellent questions! The stone was sold to me as an unheated pad from Ceylon/Sri Lanka. I will not retest because it failed in 3 areas that were important to me—treatment, color and origin. Plus, I believe the adage, GIA reports are for sellers; AGL is for buyers. No point in retesting because I just want a refund! No, I do not expect AGL to refund me—haven’t asked! Just considered they did the tests and I want their unbiased opinion. They would have an incentive to state an origin if they were financially penalized for not. ‘pad’ sapphire.png

Thank you!!! That makes a whole lot of sense. Hope you get the refund!

GIA reports are for sellers; AGL is for buyers

Will keep that in mind for sure. The experience I had with GIA was not a pleasant one either.
 

icy_jade

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This is interesting... I was shown an unheated sapphire with an AGL report from 2016 saying "The country of origin for this stone is currently not determinable". First time I've seen this. Any thoughts???

It happens. It may not mean that the gem definitely isn’t from the said origin, just that the gemologist can’t determine for sure. There are examples where diff labs give diff opinions on origin too. End of the day such reports are not 100% accurate. There is a person (gemologist) behind each report and what is stated on the report is just their opinion. Sometimes it can help to have a chat with the gemologist.
 

cloud_less

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It happens. It may not mean that the gem definitely isn’t from the said origin, just that the gemologist can’t determine for sure. There are examples where diff labs give diff opinions on origin too. End of the day such reports are not 100% accurate. There is a person (gemologist) behind each report and what is stated on the report is just their opinion. Sometimes it can help to have a chat with the gemologist.

I see, I'm reaching out to AGL to see if it's possible to re-test the stone. I wonder if they've accumulated more data in the past seven years or so since the last report was issued to allow a better chance at determining the origin.

Sometimes it can help to have a chat with the gemologist.

Good point!! That would be great.
 

cloud_less

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~RandomRantAlert~
Had my eye on a sapphire ring until I saw this on the vendor's website:
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Nor would the vendor agree to send the stone to any sort of lab to test for treatment.
Well no thanks, I'm not throwing $$$$$ around for a stone "without any representation or warranty or guarantee of any kind"...


I really do love the ring though.
 

cloud_less

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And shout out to all of you in this thread for convincing me to get her when the opportunity arose :)
I'm biased but I haven't really seen any opalescent sapphire this nice since..
 

ItsMainelyYou

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And shout out to all of you in this thread for convincing me to get her when the opportunity arose :)
I'm biased but I haven't really seen any opalescent sapphire this nice since..

Telling you, the real deal. A true unicorn. I will forever love 'our' Ailsa:love: and everything else, I'm in the will, right? Right?!
 

sheplaysgeetar

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Thought I should add photos of it in its setting (also by Sennin) here too!
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Somehow my phone camera makes the color look washed out. It's quite the color shifter (blue to green depends on lighting). LOVE Sennin's work, highly recommend!!

Hello! I absolutely love your ring. I just purchased a galaxy cut montana sapphire from sennin (should be here soon!). I'm considering having it set in a bezel, but am wondering how much darker it will make the sapphire appear. Do you have any more pictures of you ring in different lightings?
 
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