AVC.....I think?

[MollyMalone]

* * * Personally, I like the look of an Emerald but I believe my gf prefers the sparkle of a cushion/round. I was thinking I could merge the best of both and go for the sparkle & broad flashes from an AVC. I haven't seen a AVR but I would think if I was going for a round I would want the most sparkle in a H&A cut because the reason why rounds are iconic.
Anyways,I am looking at AVC because of the quality of the cut. * * *

Thanks for all the info. I had a conversation with my better-half last night and it turns out her first choice would be a cushion and then a round. She trusts my taste and style so I still have flexibility. However, on [the other] hand, I believe the AVC is the way to go. The decision was difficult because the more I look at the OEC the more I like it...the petal facets are really alluring and catch my eye. * * *

Sounds as if your SO has not given you positive feedback re old cuts, either truly vintage or the new variations. If that's the case, I'd like to suggest that you not leap right just yet into a OEC, OMC, AVC,or AVR, etc. Old cuts are truly a different "flavor" -- and, despite what you might think from reading numerous posts here on PS, they do not appeal to all women. My younger niece, for example, would not want on because she thinks the "hole" created by an open culet is "weird", and she isn't captivated by the faceting, especially dislikes the faceting seen in the "antique" cushions/OMCs, be they authentically old or the new versions.

I gather that this is going to be a surprise proposal. But since the e-ring is a gift for your future wife -- who presumably will be wearing it often, if not daily, for years to come -- I hope you'll try to nail down that an AVC (or OEC or whatever old cuts are in the running in your mind) will indeed please her.

 

[Niel]

What size color and clarity is that accurate you're considering

 

[DukeFB04]

I know I am going with "in GOG terminology" an AVC or AVR. I think it gives the best of both worlds. Now it is a matter of the 4c's

 

[Niel]

What size color and clarity is that accurate you're considering

Sorry. Auto correct. What color size and clarity is that gog stone? I prefer the VC because he gives a discount if you get the setting through him and his settings are great but if that gog stone is much better then I may change my mind

 

[DukeFB04]

What size color and clarity is that accurate you're considering

The ASET and Ideal scope are for a 2.19ct G VS2 AGS000

The link was to a 2.35ct H VS2 AGS000

the 2.35 is slightly elongated

Would you go for bigger ct weight and spread or smaller and less color

 

[JDDN]

* * * Personally, I like the look of an Emerald but I believe my gf prefers the sparkle of a cushion/round. I was thinking I could merge the best of both and go for the sparkle & broad flashes from an AVC. I haven't seen a AVR but I would think if I was going for a round I would want the most sparkle in a H&A cut because the reason why rounds are iconic.
Anyways,I am looking at AVC because of the quality of the cut. * * *

Thanks for all the info. I had a conversation with my better-half last night and it turns out her first choice would be a cushion and then a round. She trusts my taste and style so I still have flexibility. However, on [the other] hand, I believe the AVC is the way to go. The decision was difficult because the more I look at the OEC the more I like it...the petal facets are really alluring and catch my eye. * * *

Sounds as if your SO has not given you positive feedback re old cuts, either truly vintage or the new variations. If that's the case, I'd like to suggest that you not leap right just yet into a OEC, OMC, AVC,or AVR, etc. Old cuts are truly a different "flavor" -- and, despite what you might think from reading numerous posts here on PS, they do not appeal to all women. My younger niece, for example, would not want on because she thinks the "hole" created by an open culet is "weird", and she isn't captivated by the faceting, especially dislikes the faceting seen in the "antique" cushions/OMCs, be they authentically old or the new versions.

I gather that this is going to be a surprise proposal. But since the e-ring is a gift for your future wife -- who presumably will be wearing it often, if not daily, for years to come -- I hope you'll try to nail down that an AVC (or OEC or whatever old cuts are in the running in your mind) will indeed please her.

Oh! I assumed your GF had said she loves old cuts! If your GF thinks she may be getting a cushion cut diamond, she may be very surprised by the cut of an AVC. I second MM in what she is telling you. There are so many types of cushion cuts and an AVC is definitely a flavor that not every woman will like. There are hearts and arrows cushions, OMC, precision cut old cut cushions, brilliant cushions, crushed ice cushions, etc., etc. I know some women are very turned off by the maltese cross that is so predominant in an AVC and like MM's niece, some do not like the culet. It's up to you to surprise her with such a unique cut, but she is going to presumably have to love it and wear it for a long time. You may want to casually have her see one and get her reaction.

Here is someone who did a LOT of research to find a superbly cut and superbly performing cushion that is not an old cut.


[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/e-ring-search-30k.218669/page-3']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/e-ring-search-30k.218669/page-3[/URL]

 

[JDDN]

If memory serves, the GOG AVC ASET you posted is for a stone that is exactly square. Just an fyi because you said you wanted it slightly elongated.

 

[DukeFB04]

If memory serves, the GOG AVC ASET you posted is for a stone that is exactly square. Just an fyi because you said you wanted it slightly elongated.

They are 2 different stones


1 is GOG

2 is canera

 

[JDDN]

I was referring to the ASET and IS of the GOG stone you posted. The 2.19 G VS2. I believe it is exactly square in length and width.

 

[DukeFB04]

I was referring to the ASET and IS of the GOG stone you posted. The 2.19 G VS2. I believe it is exactly square in length and width.

precisely.....they both appeal to me... i was hoping someone can tell me which is better

 

[vintagelover229]

I vote for a romantic trip to GOG and have her view the stones in person, actual antique OEC and OMC as well as the AV line. Then you design and pick the setting

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Since you have decided to go with a cushion, would you consider a thin halo on the stone? I think they frame an antique cushion soooo well and also enhance the size a little since they can be slightly smaller face up than rounds.

Here is my friend's very large AVC in a Steven Kirsch halo. (Obviously if you go with Victor's diamond, he can make the same setting.)

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Having seen the ring I just posted in person, I will say that I think you are totally safe with a newly cut, ideal cut antique cushion. These are the most beautiful, elegant, mesmerizing cushions. If someone handed me the ring above in a 2-3 ct size, I would be absolutely thrilled. Here is a pic of my old hands with that gorgeous diamond ring. It's actually a J color and I think it is fantastic (and I am fairly color sensitive)!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

What size color and clarity is that accurate you're considering

The ASET and Ideal scope are for a 2.19ct G VS2 AGS000

The link was to a 2.35ct H VS2 AGS000

the 2.35 is slightly elongated

Would you go for bigger ct weight and spread or smaller and less color

Remember to look at diameter and not weight in cushions. I do not know the dimensions of these two stones, but I think you should list them because it tells more than weight. I think both stones are beautiful and I have my personal preferences of which shape I'd prefer for an engagement ring and the other for a right hand ring. So I am not going to say which I'd choose. The color is irrelevant between G and H, really. They are both high color for antique cushions. In fact, my I color is about the highest color he has had in a 2+ ct AVR ever.

 

[Niel]

What size color and clarity is that accurate you're considering

The ASET and Ideal scope are for a 2.19ct G VS2 AGS000

The link was to a 2.35ct H VS2 AGS000

the 2.35 is slightly elongated

Would you go for bigger ct weight and spread or smaller and less color

I'd get the largest stone for my budget in the required specs.

 

[JDDN]

If you think you want Victor to set the stone, then definitely go with a Canera Antique. If not, then I agree with Niel, get the largest dimension-wise (not carat) in your budget within your specs.

 

[m-2-b]

I personally prefer elongated cushions for an ER. Here's another shot of my AVC which was referenced above by DS:

 

[diamondseeker2006]

m2b, I see your stone as closer to square than elongated! It may actually fall between the two he is looking at.

 

[m-2-b]

m2b, I see your stone as closer to square than elongated! It may actually fall between the two he is looking at.

That's funny how we interpret the general overall shape differently!

 

[Niel]

m2b, I see your stone as closer to square than elongated! It may actually fall between the two he is looking at.

That's funny how we interpret the general overall shape differently!

Yours looks so square to me

 

[DukeFB04]

What size color and clarity is that accurate you're considering

The ASET and Ideal scope are for a 2.19ct G VS2 AGS000

The link was to a 2.35ct H VS2 AGS000

the 2.35 is slightly elongated

Would you go for bigger ct weight and spread or smaller and less color

Remember to look at diameter and not weight in cushions. I do not know the dimensions of these two stones, but I think you should list them because it tells more than weight. I think both stones are beautiful and I have my personal preferences of which shape I'd prefer for an engagement ring and the other for a right hand ring. So I am not going to say which I'd choose. The color is irrelevant between G and H, really. They are both high color for antique cushions. In fact, my I color is about the highest color he has had in a 2+ ct AVR ever.

The measurements: GOG is7.75x 7.75x 5.02 mm Canera 8.1 x 7.38 x 5.07

is one more preferable for an e-ring than the other. She has slender long fingers.

 

[Niel]

What size color and clarity is that accurate you're considering

The ASET and Ideal scope are for a 2.19ct G VS2 AGS000

The link was to a 2.35ct H VS2 AGS000

the 2.35 is slightly elongated

Would you go for bigger ct weight and spread or smaller and less color

Remember to look at diameter and not weight in cushions. I do not know the dimensions of these two stones, but I think you should list them because it tells more than weight. I think both stones are beautiful and I have my personal preferences of which shape I'd prefer for an engagement ring and the other for a right hand ring. So I am not going to say which I'd choose. The color is irrelevant between G and H, really. They are both high color for antique cushions. In fact, my I color is about the highest color he has had in a 2+ ct AVR ever.

The measurements: GOG is7.75x 7.75x 5.02 mm Canera 8.1 x 7.38 x 5.07

is one more preferable for an e-ring than the other. She has slender long fingers.

Her finger size? If it's slender and long I vote elongated but I'll demonstrate something for you if you know her size

 

[DukeFB04]

Her Finger is 4 3/4... she is about 5'7.5" and quite thin

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Niel may be at work now, but this is what I think she wanted to show you. The 2.19 is on the left and the 2.35 is on the right. Finger is 4.75.

 

[Niel]

Niel may be at work now, but this is what I think she wanted to show you. The 2.19 is on the left and the 2.35 is on the right. Finger is 4.75.

i prefer the right.

both look good.

yes this was totally what i was going to do

 

[DukeFB04]

Thanks so much.....that's a really great informational tool....although it makes me wish I could afford to up the size to a 2.75 to increase the spread slightly without sacrificing anything else.

 

[Niel]

Thanks so much.....that's a really great informational tool....although it makes me wish I could afford to up the size to a 2.75 to increase the spread slightly without sacrificing anything else.

These will look huge....huge.

Don't get down on not being able to get more. There's always a bigger rock somewhere. Your ring will be a knockout.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Most of us are in that position of wishing we could go a little larger, a little higher color or clarity, or a little better something! As I said before, I really prefer these stones with a delicate halo, and that enhances the size and gives them a frame which accentuates the diamond. These are a great size for a halo setting.

 

[DukeFB04]

Thanks for the encouragement....I just want to get the right proportions of the ring to fit her the best. I don't want too big or too small... although I'm not sure there is such a thing on either end of the spectrum.

Is there a consensus that the camera is the better of the 2 choices? I plan on doing a leon mege style solitaire with claw-prong (when viewed from the face) with a micro pave band.....I still have to narrow down the other details of the setting but i thought it was a start

http://www.pricescope.com/files/images/lm_claw_prong.jpg[/img
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[DukeFB04]