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Cerulean

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Yeah I love the shape and the clipped corners, I didn’t see it unset, just videos where I thought it looked great. Yes it twinkles and twinkles a lot, does look dazzling under right conditions I guess it’s just different from what I was envisioning from the videos. It seems the middle is more virtual facets than clear sharp facets. And I didn’t know if that’s just the style of it or if that’s because it has true culet in the center.

No it’s not love at first sight but trying to sus out of it’s just how it’s set or not. Because changing the setting is much easier and less costly than restarting the whole thing.

Totally get it. You've sunk cost, you like aspects of the stone/ring, and are teasing apart which is the source of the issue, which is the right thing to do.

I asked if you saw it unset, bc I am wondering if you'd find it more pleasing in a prong setting (and I would probably recommend a tab prong, bc I agree that the long claw prongs are doing nothing for this stone and I frankly think elongated claw prongs don't go well with vintage ECs in general, but that's MY personal preference).
 

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Totally get it. You've sunk cost, you like aspects of the stone/ring, and are teasing apart which is the source of the issue, which is the right thing to do.

I asked if you saw it unset, bc I am wondering if you'd find it more pleasing in a prong setting (and I would probably recommend a tab prong, bc I agree that the long claw prongs are doing nothing for this stone and I frankly think elongated claw prongs don't go well with vintage ECs in general, but that's MY personal preference).

Thank you yes I agree now about the tabs. Those are the way to go with this style of stone.
 

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I just took these quick color comparison pics for you.

From the top: uncerted I color pear/ GIA F color emerald cut in 18kt YG bezel/ uncerted D/E color mixed cuts.

18kt YG definitely makes the F color look warmer-but I'm ok with that.

I hope the pics help!

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Thank you!! I feel like yours still looks pretty white and isn’t reflecting the yellow as much. I see it a little but it still comes across pretty icy.
 

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Thank you!! I feel like yours still looks pretty white and isn’t reflecting the yellow as much. I see it a little but it still comes across pretty icy.

You're welcome. The F can definitely can look more tinted depending on the angle.

You can see how icy the F looked here:

I'm curious-what is the depth on your stone? Btw, I think an emerald would look stunning in the CVB setting.
 

petrock<3

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You're welcome. The F can definitely can look more tinted depending on the angle.

You can see how icy the F looked here:

I'm curious-what is the depth on your stone? Btw, I think an emerald would look stunning in the CVB setting.

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This is the emerald I have
 

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Also wondering if my puffy finger is touching the culet at times and I wear a lot of lotion. Could be contributing the the haziness?
 

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You're welcome. The F can definitely can look more tinted depending on the angle.

You can see how icy the F looked here:

I'm curious-what is the depth on your stone? Btw, I think an emerald would look stunning in the CVB setting.

Oh I see yes it was more icy
 

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Also wondering if my puffy finger is touching the culet at times and I wear a lot of lotion. Could be contributing the the haziness?

Yes, absolutely. Give it a good scrub then try it on a small bony finger.
 

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This is the emerald I have

Your emerald would look delicious in this style of setting :kiss2:

My asscher definitely goes dull and hazy if it’s dirty, especially with lotion. Could you try your ring (with a sizing noodle if necessary) on a smaller finger for a day?
 

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Your emerald would look delicious in this style of setting :kiss2:

My asscher definitely goes dull and hazy if it’s dirty, especially with lotion. Could you try your ring (with a sizing noodle if necessary) on a smaller finger for a day?

Yes I gave it a scrub and going to sport it on my pink for a day lol. I do soak and scrub it daily anyway but it does only take a second to get lotion on it and get hazy. My other ring sits higher and has a donut on the bottom so this is a new style of setting for me.
 

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I tried having it on my pinky but I had to go out and didn’t feel secure. So I cleaned it and tucked tin foil in the inside of the bezel covering the gold on the sides and it goes across the bottom like a cup. Looks a lot brighter and whiter. F7A9155B-E61D-41D4-9590-5B9FD8E6FF9B.jpeg
 

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Just being honest… that stone does not look like an E the way it is set. Even accounting for oil haziness, even when backed by tin foil. That doesn’t mean it is’t a E (is there a diamond report?) just that you are not imagining that it looks way off.

Someone else asked if you saw the stone unset… don’t recall reading if you did or did not. IMHO if you have not already then that is the next step.

Even if you cannot get money back from the vendor(s) involved, sounds like you can repurpose the setting; or in the alternative, given how many people love it, sell the entire ring or just the stone quite easily.

If it helps, below are a D MRB set in rose gold, an H AVC in yellow gold, an K OEC set in yellow gold, and a F asscher set in platinum but in yellow light.
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Just being honest… that stone does not look like an E the way it is set. Even accounting for oil haziness, even when backed by tin foil. That doesn’t mean it is’t a E (is there a diamond report?) just that you are not imagining that it looks way off.

Someone else asked if you saw the stone unset… don’t recall reading if you did or did not. IMHO if you have not already then that is the next step.

Even if you cannot get money back from the vendor(s) involved, sounds like you can repurpose the setting; or in the alternative, given how many people love it, sell the entire ring or just the stone quite easily.

If it helps, below are a D MRB set in rose gold, an H AVC in yellow gold, an K OEC set in yellow gold, and a F asscher set in platinum but in yellow light.
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Thanks so much for the pics and comparisons! It’s very helpful!
 

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Got some cool pics of the facets while waiting to pick up my kids at school. Thanks everyone for helping me work out what I’m going to do! I have been very unsure and I still am but I feel a lot better about it.
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I would ask to have the prongs removed, I think that while lovely prongs, they're a discordant element. Other than that, it's a lovely antique step cut stone. They can show a less distinct facet pattern and look watery and ephemeral. Magical. E or K color, it's a beautiful diamond.
 

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Got my dahlia back so here’s two E’s
Edited to add weather is terrible and grey today so pics aren’t great
 

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Got my dahlia back so here’s two E’s
Edited to add weather is terrible and grey today so pics aren’t great

That’s a stark difference for 2 Es :oops2:

If it’s possible, definitely try plating underneath the stone as it must be picking up loads of colour from the setting! I like it personally - it’s not an unattractive tint - but I wouldn’t like it if I’d paid a premium for an E and was expecting icy white.

You’ve mentioned a couple of times that you were expected a darker bezel. Caysie’s bezels are beautifully delicate so it might not add a lot if there’s not much metal to antique, but she might also be able to deepen the antiquing if you want the lip to be a darker, starker contrast of black against the stone?
 

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I know it was not the look you're going for with the warmth added to the antique emerald by the yellow gold, but when you have both of these stones together, I find the emerald is the one drawing my eye more than the round!
 

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I know it was not the look you're going for with the warmth added to the antique emerald by the yellow gold, but when you have both of these stones together, I find the emerald is the one drawing my eye more than the round!

Yes I agree not loving the warmth just because it’s not what I set out for, but the stone is very charming. I love warm cushions and old mines.
Seeing them together was weird because the round was shooting out rainbow colors looked like a moissanite in comparison. The emerald was more mellow but also nice. Just opposites really
 

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Excuse the quick and dirty mock-up of imagining without prongs (if it can even be done - they go all the way down the basket, does that part stay or go?)
But at arms length - maybe this might help in choosing if it helps the overall look you wanted to achieve or not?
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Thank you!! Yes I like the cleaner no prong look!
 

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I forgot something relevant!

My Clara is white rhodium plated on the interior, but only where the stone’s bezel touches metal - not the whole interior of the basket. They chose that because it’d be visible from the side.

Because it’s small- if I had been given given the choice beforehand - I would have chosen the whole interior basket to have been done and not been put off by seeing it from the side view thru magnification :)
 

petrock<3

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I forgot something relevant!

My Clara is white rhodium plated on the interior, but only where the stone’s bezel touches metal - not the whole interior of the basket. They chose that because it’d be visible from the side.

Because it’s small- if I had been given given the choice beforehand - I would have chosen the whole interior basket to have been done and not been put off by seeing it from the side view thru magnification :)

Oh great to know thanks so much!!
 

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If I were in your shoes, I would unset this stone to get a better understanding of it and it’s color all on its own. (Since you are getting the prongs removed it won’t matter, even if you put another stone in the setting.). You bought an E for a reason and that whole goal to see a whiter stone is for naught. To figure out what to do next you need to know for certain what you are working with. What lab graded your stone?
 

petrock<3

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If I were in your shoes, I would unset this stone to get a better understanding of it and it’s color all on its own. (Since you are getting the prongs removed it won’t matter, even if you put another stone in the setting.). You bought an E for a reason and that whole goal to see a whiter stone is for naught. To figure out what to do next you need to know for certain what you are working with. What lab graded your stone?

Yes I agree I think I have to. I want a warm old cut stone one day but that wasn’t the vision for this one!! It was graded by IGI
 
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